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Post by squirmydad on Jul 27, 2009 18:00:31 GMT -9
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Post by old squirmydad on Jul 28, 2009 11:49:31 GMT -9
I purchased a Silhouette SD (Craft Robo) digital cutting tool last week, got the elven cavalry this morning, spent an hour getting them set up for cutting, and did this;
I'm still learning how to set up files for the CR (I just started with it) but I am extremely happy with both of my purchases. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by tugunmojo on Jul 28, 2009 12:33:14 GMT -9
Nice & thanks for the video!
I've been toying with the idea of getting one, just haven't taken the plung yet--really thinking about buying a house first!
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Post by squirmydad on Jul 28, 2009 12:57:15 GMT -9
I would say that alignment has to be a major pain on these. Is miss alignments an issue on a lot of cuts, or is it just a learning curve. JIM
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Post by old squirmydad on Jul 28, 2009 13:44:27 GMT -9
I didn't proof my alignment work, if I'd looked at the cutting paths overlaying the figures I'd have caught that. As it was I'd already dropped out the image file, got too cocky. ;D
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Post by abaddonwormwood on Jul 28, 2009 14:26:15 GMT -9
At the end of the vid it was a tad blurry to see what the issues were - could you hit some stills up to show the "problems" you had (even if it was from your cockiness).
So you cannot leave the figure as one piece? I mean you had to glue it up afterward. Would the machine run through a glued sheet of card - a sheet that you have sandwich the front and back together allowing the machine to cut it out as a finished product. If so you could get double the number of figures as you would have that extra space from the reversed side to work with.
Lord Abaddon of Wormwood
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Post by djlittle on Jul 28, 2009 15:32:17 GMT -9
They are beautiful...... I need to find a massed battle system that works. Warhammer Fantasy battle 3rd edition here I come Now, I'm not bashing Warhammer, but Brett over at Precis Intermedia Games is currently updating "A Fistful of Miniatures". The original and add on rules are available. A Fistful of Miniatures Click HERE"For a Few Miniatures More" is also available HEREYou can get both sets of rules for around $10.00. Once I get out of my temporary money crunch, I'm looking at getting some of your great minis to use with it! ;D
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Post by old squirmydad on Jul 28, 2009 20:24:48 GMT -9
So I went against Mel's tutorials and made silhouettes of the front sides but all as one piece and then cut out the type3's; It looks pretty good, but it's actually harder to align the mini when glueing it up. So it's a bit of a toss up as to which way is better. Lord Ab; the issue in the first foray was that the back side cuts were off by almost 1mm on the vertical axis due to operator error, then covered by edging marker so it doesn't show. The blades aren't really designed to cut through multiple sheets so while I like that idea I think it'd be a blade breaker. I'm just happy that my elf cavalry is coming together so quickly, I was a bit intimidated by the thought of having to cut out all those lances by hand.
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Post by abaddonwormwood on Jul 28, 2009 21:07:15 GMT -9
You are scoring these first - right? Either machine or hand but it would make lining them up a sinch.
Lord Abaddon of Wormwood
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Post by Christopher Roe on Jul 29, 2009 1:22:22 GMT -9
So I went against Mel's tutorials and made silhouettes of the front sides but all as one piece and then cut out the type3's Hmm. The reasons why I have the flow set up like that in the tutorial are: 1. The border around the backs is usually larger than the front 2. Autotrace always kind of randomly varies ever so slightly between different silhouettes. In the first case, unless you're working with figures that have the exact same border thickness front and back, you'll end up cutting the back side larger than the front. In the second case, even if the silhouettes are identical on the back and front, you'll end up with cutting paths that aren't quite mirror images. That's another thing I've noticed--it's safer to have 2 identical mirrored cut paths than it is to try and eyeball a scoreline in between. The thickest stuff I can reliably cut is 50lb matte photo paper that's been Xyron-laminated on one side only. It sure is nice to get a lot of figures done in a short time. -Mel
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Post by squirmydad on Jul 29, 2009 6:28:09 GMT -9
I can see when designing these, that I can make cut lines that run through the center of the border during the design phase, and just provide a vector cutting path.
I may just pick up one of these machines so I can set that up. JIM
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Post by old squirmydad on Jul 29, 2009 6:52:32 GMT -9
Lord Ab, Mel, Jim, honored members, -Yes, I am scoring them down the middle of the glue tab, but using a pens pressure instead of cut scoring. I can add a cut score in Craft Robo so that it'd hit dead center and make for a more accurate fold, that's one of my next experiments. -In the tutorial Mel recommended making silhouettes of the front sides only and using autotraces of those as the basis of the cutting paths (mirrored for the back sides for exactitude). On the type 3 cavalry I made silhouettes of the front sides in Photoshop, duplicated and flipped them there, then sent that silhouette sheet to Craft Robo to autotrace. The resulting paths for front and back are not perfect, although they are nigh-perfect, and any imperfections disappear in the edging process. -Another nice thing is that the cutting of the type 3's was done while I ate dinner, I didn't pick up an x-acto knife all day yesterday, which made my tired hand extremely happy. -I'm going to start a thread in my section to talk Craft Robo learning and experiments so I can stop hijacking this thread. -Annnnnd back on topic: One of the reasons I'm so energized to experiment is the beauty of the designs. These are the warrior elves that I've wanted for awhile. They remind me of the concept art that Jes Goodwin did of the Eldar Aspect Warriors that appeared in White Dwarf last century. Graceful lines that embody strength instead of frailty, vibrant color depths, beautiful!
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Post by abaddonwormwood on Jul 29, 2009 14:05:10 GMT -9
They remind me of the concept art that Jes Goodwin did of the Eldar Aspect Warriors that appeared in White Dwarf last century. Graceful lines that embody strength instead of frailty, vibrant color depths, beautiful! Second this statement - these designs (the Cav.) really bring the Elven feel to what High Elves have become these days. Lord Abaddon of Wormwood
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Post by spaceranger42 on Sept 28, 2016 10:23:13 GMT -9
Quick note on cutting alignment too, I find that putting the lid down when cutting will generally solve my alignment issues. Weird, but it was recommended on a YT tutorial I watched.
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Post by squirmydad on Sept 28, 2016 14:07:49 GMT -9
Quick note on cutting alignment too, I find that putting the lid down when cutting will generally solve my alignment issues. Weird, but it was recommended on a YT tutorial I watched. It's also not as clackety.
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