Well, since several weeks I have an SD - probably one of the few Austrians with one. It works and everything. But I am not really convinced if I NEED it.
Its probably a time saver, but OTOH I have to think why I am doing the papercraft hobby and I feel somehow the manual cutting belongs to it. Yes, to have it autocutted, saves time, but its not the same hobby anymore, so the cutter goes to ebay the next days.
Mel had it right when he said it(printer) is really (most) useful for people producing models and maybe need to quickly prototype a model redundantly as changes are made. At that point the tedium of cutting the model out over and over looses it's "hand crafted" goodness...
If I wanted to mass cut a ton of parts (for building scenery for example) it would be quite useful and allow me to get to the gluing, building and constructing more quickly.
I tend to use mine when I'm playing around with the scale of paper crafty stuff and I'm not sure whats going to look good (15/18/25/30). When I need 25x troop type X and I'm tired of cutting them out by hand and as mentioned above when prototyping my own designs.
I do feel that it does take something away from the hobby and I normally feel like I've cheated if I use it or maybe more that the accomplishment achieved at the end of a model seems less.
It has it's place but I don't run every model I build through it.
"There is wisdom in turning as often as possible from the familiar to the unfamiliar: it keeps the mind nimble, it kills prejudice, and it fosters humour." George Santayana, philosopher (1863-1952)
Post by old squirmydad on Jan 22, 2010 18:46:16 GMT -9
I find it very relaxing to watch it work while I'm drinking coffee. ;D
The cutting was always a monotonous, and now painful due to arthritis in my wrist, chore part of model and miniature assembly. So many cool things I want to build and play with, so little time, so aggravating to have it taken up by cutting, and cutting, and cutting...
I've always enjoyed battle and skirmish games over rpg's so I've been having tons of fun assembling hordes of goblins, orcs, kobolds, dwarves, elves, and Undead Legions. Likewise, MelEbbles launched a line of terrain (battlemats and hills) that I probably wouldn't have assembled if my robo-cutter hadn't cut it for me.
Personally, I like the cutter. I too found the cutting part monotonous, but then, I am not adept with a blade. For models with tons of straight lines pulling out and Xacto may still be easier but for figures I like the cutter. Now that I have found a way to mirror top to bottom on a cutter, it becomes the perfect tool to check the figures and make sure I designed them right.
I had figures cut out and made before Jim sold me his cutter, just not in the same quantities. Not to mention I don't get scissor fingers anymore.
Nice pics. I don't know why, but seeing them put a smile on my face. Guess it reminded me of when my son started trying out Dad's games. His first big game to start his own collection was HeroClix, and then Star Wars. But now, his really happy with the paperminis Dad has devoted his time to.
As for my 2 cents on the SD, I haven't been able to use mine that much since I bought it, but now that I have it working properly, I love its potential.
There are three kinds of people in this world: those who can count and those who can't.
Post by old squirmydad on Jan 27, 2010 16:31:33 GMT -9
I'm launching into converting all of the Hybrid forces tonight, there's a force that calls out for automated cutting in a big way; curvy and spiky. I thought of this thread today as I was building the Medieval Walls set - which is all big, straight lines and simple shapes. I used my knife and ruler for that one and the only part where I'd have liked a robot to step in and do my cutting was on all of the open railings as that is a tedious section of the model, much like all the open railings in WWG's Swampworks set, which robot pal did cut for me.
Great pics, SD! She's very cute, and the horde is pretty impressive too. It's great to see kids taking up the interests of their parents.
Uhm, that's only 2/3 of the Wastelands horde...I've instructed her not to get out everything at once. So not pictured is the Goblinoid horde, Elf horde, Dwarf horde, fantasy adventure horde, sci-fi troops horde, super-huge undead horde, and Horde Of Minis That Haven't Been Edged Yet.
One other nice thing about the cutter is that small hands, like my kids have, have difficulty cutting out models and miniatures and it can be quite frustrating for them to not have the needed level of precision and speed to keep up with their dad's quality. My son wants Star Wars terrain so I've pulled some things off the web and am in the process of setting up the cutting files for him. Building is something that they're much happier with, especially when the scoring is also already done.
Sorry for the thread archeology, but I just have to ask, where are the giant tentacles, the giant (I assume) but and the ewok village from? I havn't come across any of them, and they'd fit right in to my upcoming campaign.
And I also have to say that I can't wait for the day when my daughter is old enough to help me doing paperstuff... She's alreadyvery environment-friendly, though, whenever I cut she insists on processing the snippets to confetti grade.
Oh, and on the subject: I got a CraftRobo last year, and found that it's a real time-saver when cutting miniatures. Using spray-adhesive on larger sheets of paper instead of the expensive sheets they are selling cuts down on the costs, too, although they are at risk if not properly stored and a cat takes a nap on one of them... Anyway, these cutters migth not be worth it if all you want to do are straight lines, but for miniatures, they're worth the money. Besides, you can always cut a few sheets by hand to remind yourself why you bought the cutter in the first place.
Post by highlandpiper on Sept 21, 2010 5:39:02 GMT -9
I love the bug horde and that is why I'm glad I have my craft robo. It would take me too long to cut out 25-50 bug models! Plus being a full time student and full time father of four does not leave me a lot of time these days!
These creatures reminded me of the BBC childrens TV programme Bamzooki, bbc.co.uk/cbbc/bamzooki/ , create your own working creature progamme, my kids loved it (and me but don't tell anyone I watch kids TV)
cowboyleland: Now I have seen it. It doesn't advance our hobby, but anyone with half a brain who wanted 2nd rate figures could easily figure this out for themselves so I guess he isn't doing any harm.
Mar 19, 2019 17:53:59 GMT -9
berneart76: well, this is fun, (not) transferring all my papercrafting sets into the cloud. The stuff I got from DriveTrhruRPG was simple with their library desktop app,but my other stuff, sometimes with multiple duplicate copies is entertaining.
Mar 1, 2019 15:44:32 GMT -9
berneart76: Vermin King I usually use a mix of drybrush/watercolor/photocopy and occasionally posterizing at different levels of opacity.
Feb 26, 2019 20:46:54 GMT -9
berneart76: Vermin King, that's similar to the enhancing that I do on my texturing. I've found that sometimes I need to scale up or scale down the image (usually by 50 or 25 percent down or 200 or 300 percent up) to make get the enhancements to look "right"
Feb 26, 2019 20:44:53 GMT -9
Vermin King: On the zebras, I did multiple enhancements and cartoon filters and used them at 100%, and they still didn't look that different than the photos
Feb 26, 2019 12:27:26 GMT -9
Vermin King: When I make a figure or terrain piece based on a photo, I clean it up and align things to look 'right', then I create another layer and do enhancing and cartoonizing on it. I then adjust opacity over the photo image until it looks good. On the zebras,
Feb 26, 2019 12:26:35 GMT -9
Vermin King: berneart76, do you mean giving them green or purple manes and tails? and a few piercings? maybe a cig hanging out of their mouths?
Feb 26, 2019 12:24:18 GMT -9
Vermin King: cartoonizing a zebra doesn't do much
Feb 20, 2019 5:59:28 GMT -9
Vermin King: And due to the snow, I'm off tonight. I am going to miss the cash on the paycheck, but I'm glad they want their employees to be safe
Feb 15, 2019 10:52:24 GMT -9
ignatious: Actually I was referring to the two previous posts. I was trying to be subtle in order to sublimate the crassness. Read them again, but in Mel Brooks voice while he is winking, and nudging the person to his right.
Feb 9, 2019 13:38:11 GMT -9
Vermin King: Sure. Euphemize us
Feb 8, 2019 18:40:48 GMT -9
ignatious: would anyone care for a euphemism?
Feb 8, 2019 13:40:27 GMT -9
cowboyleland: We hadn't had snow for a few days. Last night the plow came down my street and did nothing but fill every ones driveways back in. Just for practice, I guess.
Feb 8, 2019 7:48:16 GMT -9
Vermin King: In KC we had an ice storm (with thunder sleet) the other night. Left things drivable, but last night the plow came down my street. They took all the rough edges off. Might as well have ran a Zamboni...
Feb 8, 2019 6:42:32 GMT -9
okumarts: Vermin King... Mind Blown!
Feb 5, 2019 19:32:30 GMT -9