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Post by epengr on Mar 26, 2010 11:02:29 GMT -9
Hello all, I've recently tried out a friend's Craft Robo CC100-20 and love it. I want one. BUT, if will be using it not only to build a One Monk arm (whether I need one or not:) ), but also to cut out my papercraft designs. Pepakura has a special viewer for thier PDO files that will print models with reg marks AND drive the CR to cut and score after. It beautiful: www.tamasoft.co.jp/pepakura-en/download/viewer_crobo.htmlThe problem is, I can't get a straight answer from Silhouette or Tamasoft as to whether or not it will work with the Silhouette SD (which is a rebranded Craft Robo 330-20L). "Maybe but we can't promise anything." Silhouettes are MUCH easier to find in Canada. Can anyone with a Silhouette SD test the above software for me? Theres a trial version that is limited to cutting one part per page - but if it'll do one part, that's all I need to know! Please, Please, Please! ;D Thanks!
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Post by old squirmydad on Mar 26, 2010 12:42:38 GMT -9
I'm dl'ing the trial version now and I'll give it a whirl. Funny that they are charging $15usd fro the plugin when the Robomaster software itself is free.
What I've been doing with Pepakura is using the 'Export as DXF' option and then loading the dxf into Robomaster. I do my final layout of parts in Robomaster, then export a pdf of that layout so I can do my texturing in Photoshop.
I'll get back to you on the plugin.
Eric
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Post by epengr on Mar 26, 2010 13:21:19 GMT -9
Thanks so much!
For creating a final parts layout, that's undoubtably the way to go. But for protoype testing it's nice to be able to just send the parts straight out to the cutter.
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Post by old squirmydad on Mar 26, 2010 14:20:13 GMT -9
Report; Short answer is yes, it works. Check your configuration settings between the dialogs to make sure everything matches for the placement of the registration marks. the CraftRobo software looks at distance from the origin for the placement of the first mark and then looks at the distance between all the marks. The Pepakura viewer plugin places the marks based on distance from paper edges. The viewer does print multiple pages with the registration marks on each page. I used Cutepdf to make a pdf from the Pepakura plugin and that did give me a nice multi-page pdf with registration marks on each page. However, the viewer only handles portrait layouts, not landscape. That what you needed to know? Eric
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Post by epengr on Mar 26, 2010 18:08:03 GMT -9
Thank you squirmydad! Exactly what I need to know, I really appriciate it! I did come across something about the reg mark plaement - Mel seems to suggest there's a bug in Pepakura's US Letter size handling, I don't know if that's related. There's lots of good info about using the CR (and appearently th SD) here: melspapercraft.weebly.com/us-letter-paper.htmland here: www.ebblesminiatures.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=136Thanks again. Now I have to buy a Silouette... And an undead army... And a Elven army... Is there a bulk discount? ;D
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Post by old squirmydad on Mar 26, 2010 18:45:01 GMT -9
Thank you squirmydad! Exactly what I need to know, I really appriciate it! I did come across something about the reg mark plaement - Mel seems to suggest there's a bug in Pepakura's US Letter size handling, I don't know if that's related. There's lots of good info about using the CR (and appearently th SD) here: melspapercraft.weebly.com/us-letter-paper.htmland here: www.ebblesminiatures.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=136Thanks again. Now I have to buy a Silouette... And an undead army... And a Elven army... Is there a bulk discount? ;D I've read all of the Ebbles thoughts and tutorials previously, it's funny that Tamasoft had no answers but refers people to knowledgeable end-users like Mel. Mel got tired of Pepakura's shortcomings and helped write this unfolding program; Ultimate Papercraft 3D which has built in RoboMaster support right from the start. I believe the bulk discount is that all sets are $1....
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Post by Christopher Roe on Mar 26, 2010 19:04:13 GMT -9
Slight clarification: Brad Bolthouse wrote the whole program by himself.
He just happened to pick me as a sounding board because I was already a customer of his (I own Ultimate Unwrap3D as part of my texturing toolset), and I'd sent him some screenshots a long time ago of me abusing Unwrap3D to create paper models. I was doing that for some models that Pepakura just couldn't handle because of its texture size limitations, like the 1:60 scale Shrike and Marauder.
Tama Software did release a Version 2-based high resolution texture exporter at my urging a while back, but it wasn't exactly well-implemented until Pepakura Designer 3 was released. At that point, I *nearly* talked them into doing a professional version of Pepakura Designer 3, which resulted in Pepakura Designer 3 High Resolution Version. It helped, but it was still pretty limited.
The straw that broke the camel's back was the problems I had getting my Craft ROBO to work with it--for a while, I had to have A4 paper specially cut for me by the local paper shop just to get some real use out of the Craft ROBO-enabled viewer. I stumbled upon the margin tweak hack for US Letter paper that I mentioned on my Weebly site after measuring and observing the results, but the Craft ROBO-enabled viewer was still not well-suited to high volume use.
In the end, I came to the conclusion that the Pepakura tools were merely adequate for hobby purposes, and I needed something way more powerful *and* designed to be more professional-friendly.
It was just a combination of happenstance and dumb luck that Brad emailed me when he did...I basically handed him a list of everything I hated about Pepakura Designer, told him not to do anything on that list, then I gave him a list of what I wished Pepakura Designer could do. I got most of what I asked for, with the exception of a few things that weren't practical or straightforward to implement.
Pepakura Designer is still a lot easier to get to grips with because it does a lot of hand-holding, but when it comes to getting the results I want, UPC3D beats it up and takes its lunch money without breaking a sweat. That extra power doesn't come for free, though--I specifically asked for more manual tools and a lower-level approach to developing paper models, so UPC3D really works best if you already know what you're doing as a paper model designer.
-Mel
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Post by Christopher Roe on Mar 26, 2010 19:15:52 GMT -9
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Post by epengr on Mar 27, 2010 13:22:03 GMT -9
UPC3D really works best if you already know what you're doing as a paper model designer. -Mel I've had to almost completely redo every unfold that Pepakura does for my models since it makes some really bad descission in general anyways. I think I'll have to check out UPC3D... Thanks all!
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