I wandered around Cancon (one of the bigger conventions down under, i'd say 50-100 gamming tables setup for lots of different games) about a month ago. I usually go to have a look at the terrain and get idea's etc.
To call a lot of the terrain abysmal would be putting it mildly (is it like that elsewere?), most of it was obviously thrown together in 5mins, matt black coke cans upside down etc (except you could still read coca-cola through the paint). Don't get me wrong there were a few commercial/advertising tables being used and these were really good (probably a few 100 person hrs assembling each one).
What struck me the most is that a lot of the tables could have been improved 100x with just a little Dave/FDG/WWG terrain (even un-edged). When I asked a few peps most had never heard of any of them so market penetration down-under is virtually zero ( possibly just me and LordAb ).
Thats the terrain half I saw 0 paper models or mini's
"There is wisdom in turning as often as possible from the familiar to the unfamiliar: it keeps the mind nimble, it kills prejudice, and it fosters humour." George Santayana, philosopher (1863-1952)
Post by Vermin King on Mar 13, 2011 17:49:35 GMT -9
I still remember my heavy gaming days in the early 80s when the PAINTED Coke can would be a step up from the books for hills, boxes for buildings terrain we used back then. It's funny how some players now either want terrain that costs as much as a college education or none at all. I don't get it.
You can do so much with paper construction, and so many players look down on it. Others use it to fill in until they can afford better. And most don't know it exists.
<-- Throwing up hands
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 13, 2011 19:52:55 GMT -9
Part of it is everything is a compromise and everyone has a different idea of what is ideal. I think my 2.5d figs are ideal because they are not too fiddly yet you can see them from all sides. But they are more fiddly than 2d figs and they don't look as good at Tirik's 3d figs so, instead of being the great middle solution I thought they were I think they are seen as the worst part of both options. Similarly, if paper is slightly less realistic than rosin and I can't afford rosin why not go with an empty cereal box instead of paying for a Graffam. Sure it looks better, but does it look $5 better? We think so, but $5 is infinitely bigger than $0.
On the other hand, maybe it's the herd that is crazy.
Now don't get me wrong; I love Darkmook, and own all that stuff. Heck, I pushed to get the backdrop included. You gotta admit tho that Lovecraftian horror, 'classic' werewolves, and even non-Warhammer-esque vampires is scarce.
Well, Darkmook did draw werewolves, he did a full sheet of werewolf doddles and posted it on the forum. He simply didn't finished them
And they were amazing! I never bought a set from him because I don't care for zombie stuff, but I would buy any werewolf set he released in an instant! (there was some vampire stuff too, but modern age vampires, White-Wolf like, not Bram Stocker like)
Vermin King: It's been such a nightmare, I haven't been to OBS or your site yet. I just know they are gone
Aug 22, 2019 7:39:17 GMT -9
bravesirkevin: @vermin King, you should still be able to download the stuff you purchased from me again, if that helps. If you have any issues, just drop me a direct message and I'll send through whichever ones you can't download
Aug 21, 2019 18:28:51 GMT -9
Vermin King: And none of the Streetpaper Advent models were in there, and only seven of bravesirkevin's figures are in there, and none of my purchased ones... And the old Canon kid's models are still beyond reach
Aug 21, 2019 10:03:24 GMT -9
Vermin King: Oo, oo! I just saw the Olli Bizer models loading!
Aug 21, 2019 8:19:52 GMT -9
Vermin King: I feel less 'at a complete loss', now. I found a thumb drive of 'Papercraft'. Not sure how old it is, but it does have the Zio models, old Streetpaper, old Canon and HP models, etc. Now it is just an overwhelming loss
Aug 21, 2019 8:17:58 GMT -9
wyvern: VK: Now you also have the "joy" of the painfully slow shutdown and reboot every time (at least once a month) that Windows is made "better" by yet more unwanted clutter being downloaded to your system, plus a scatter of useless "desktop.ini" files.
Aug 20, 2019 6:08:48 GMT -9
Vermin King: After 3 1/2 hours of updating, I got this xxxxxxxx Win10 computer runnable. I'm really going to miss the ease of Win 7. Amazing all the stuff I did here that is just gone ... except for what I posted
Aug 19, 2019 18:38:15 GMT -9
squirmydad: I hope...lmk if you find something broken.
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cowboyleland: It looks like you guys are busy, but I would like to point out that the "Ghoul Design Tutorial." which would start to answer bobsomething 's question from Aug 10, is MIA (again)
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squirmydad: I need to reset a primary domain or something.
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