I could use a bit of input here. I am developing a line of martial arts cardstock minis. I'd like to have sets of adversaries, kind of like Ninjas vs Samurai, that sort of thing. What would be a logical adversary for Shaolin Monks? Any requests?
Last Edit: Jun 16, 2011 16:56:28 GMT -9 by okumarts
Uh... how much "real" they have to be? I mean: could they be good for a "street fighter - like" game, or you are doing "historical" figures? Anyway, there's so much martial arts in the world (from china to brazil) so i guess you could just google for a list of them and draw the appropriate figures...
Awesome book cover, okumarts. I am tempted to buy this title. Character posing is not my strongest skill.
I think, Adam nailed it. Bandits and Imperial/Provincial soldiers (cannon fodder for 5-year-old-monks). Don't forget some real nasty Boss Fighters with special ancient China weaponry and multiple gadgets (storms of mini darts, flying guillotine, double blades of all kind, hooks, chain weapons, etc.) - you know, the old evil Imperial governor, plotting his own schemes. 70 years old, but strong and evil.
okumarts, you should watch YouTube, best of WuXia cinema. Lots of ideas there, I think. Or read a wikipedia primer about ancient China. People will buy, what they recognize. So, bowing water carriers with thin mustaches, yellow skin and large round hats spring to my simple mind, if I hear "Ancient China". ;D Very rich and colorful topic. I wonder, how this will turn out.
If you go the Fantasy China route, even more possibilities. China is rich of mythology. Lots of ghosts, witches, monsters. The game market has alot of material for you. Look for special supplements for diverse roleplaying systems or even rock-solid standalone Ancient China systems.
Post by highlandpiper on Jun 2, 2011 19:56:44 GMT -9
I watch Martial Arts movies all the time. If they don't get released in the western regions I order them straight from Hong Kong or Korea.
There are plenty of different types of Martial Art Themes. I will write a quick run down of some of the more popular themes.
Modern - Enter the Dragon, Ong Bak, Street Fighter
Shaw Brothers - You will notice many movies where instead of wearing the traditional Queue (long braid and half shaved head) they have a huge mop of hair with thick sideburns. This is because the actors would not shave their heads as it made them unable to play modern roles until their hair grew back.
1920-1940's China - IP Man, Once upon a time in China, even Kung Fu Hustle, Fist of Fury (Cheng Zhen). You get a mixture between western and traditional clothing. Japanese are the bad guys as they have invaded China.
Ancient China - There are tons of movies and books dedicated to the different time periods of china, each will focus on 2-4 different styles of martial arts. Spring autumn period is a famous one, such as Romance of the Three Kingdoms or just Three Kingdoms. Lots of video games, classic novels, comics, T.V. and movies based off of this period.
Wuxia - by far my favourite. This is the Marvel/DC of martial arts. Here you get some really colourful characters. They can walk on air, study poisons and by ingesting them inflict poisonous punches, LOTS of other things. Some good examples Crouching Tiger/Hidden Dragon, Hero, Warriors of Zu Mountain (love that one), Butterfly and Sword, Storm Riders and plenty more.
so here I've hit on just some of the Chinese ones. Japan and Korea also have a great selection to choose from.
Are you going to focus on a specific type or offer a bit of a mix? I can tell you that I would buy a lot of these if you kept making them, but I am a bit of a fan boy!
Post by highlandpiper on Jun 2, 2011 20:02:23 GMT -9
Adversary for Shaolin Monks would be if you want historical adversaries the Qing Dynasty as they set about the famous destruction of the Shaolin Temples. This scattered the monks and five fugitive monks Ng Mui, Jee Shin Shim Shee, Fung Doe Duk, Miu Hin and Bak Mei are credited for spreading Shaolin throughout China giving birth to all chinese martial arts in all its various forms.
You could also have bandits, Chinese ghosts and demons as well.
Martial Arts Heroes would be another cool set. I could supply a list of names and descriptions if you wanted of Chinese to Japanese heroes both fictitious and historical.
Thank you so much Adam! I hope the books can be of use. Almost all the characters in the books are from RPG campaigns I have run. OK. I'm thinking the first set will be Shaolin Monks vs Bandits. I want to keep it relatively historical, but the Shaw Brothers movies were a big influence on me when I studied Kung Fu in the early 80s. Then I'll do a Heroes vs Minions set followed by a Heroes vs Bosses set. I just need a name for the line.
While I think it would be great to see some period Asian figures, (especially samurai and ninja, which I think have been lacking in paper form for a while and would definitely buy) what I would really love to have access to is a set of modern-style Asian-inspired figurines, stuff like urban ninja, street samurai, corporate swordsmen, burglar/infiltrator types, etc.--things that would go great on a gritty urban table ala WWG Mayhem.
I'm not necessarily talking straight-up cyberpunk, more present-day or near-future (stuff like TMNT).
Ok sorry but you just made my day man. I love Kung Fu flix and these minis will be an instant buy for me. While I agree with dcbradshaw (one of my game group) that we could really use some urban ninja, I really really wanna see these sets first. (sorry dc)
Just the sketches are awesome...I cant wait to see the finished projects.
bravesirkevin: There's also a complex build and a simple build. At the very least there's likely to be a few different colour schemes, but probably not alternative deco.
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bravesirkevin: As it stands, the fountain has multiple options for the floor so that you can put it in any of our dungeons and the meadow, and also has a couple generic circular bases so that you can just put it anywhere.
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wyvern: Also liking the look of that forthcoming fantasy fountain bravesirkevin (I'm not usually a Facebooker - Facebookworm?). Will it have a range of skin options (for both liquid and stonework)?
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wyvern: Link to the Kev's Lounge Facebook page to collect your free Dwarf Pitfighter (not riding a goat, sadly...), if you're not a regular Facebooker.
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bravesirkevin: PS. There's a new Kev's Lounge free mini on the Papercraft Dungeon facebook page.
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bravesirkevin: I've gotten to a point where I do all my drawing with my wacom tablet and only use pencils when I need to fill in the 7 Wonders score sheet
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yifferman: take easy , whit practice youcan understand teh wacom
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lightning: aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh! drawing with the wacom is driving me crazy! i know it will be worth it in the end but until i get there the difference to what i am able to draw with pen and paper is sooo frustrating ... sry for the vent :-)
Sept 28, 2015 10:39:55 GMT -9
Cardstock Dane: Interesting. I don't own Illustrator, but I have access to it at uni. I'll check it out. Thanks!
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mproteau: For sure, if you have Adobe software, use it. I was shooting for using free software in the guides I am putting together.
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bravesirkevin: You can actually create pre-sets with all the right settings, and that's a huge help
Sept 28, 2015 3:31:30 GMT -9
lightning: just need to make sure to export PDF of higher version ( i think 1.7 and above) as lower versions do not support the layered PDF. Found this out the hard way trying to export to PDF high print quality setup from Illustrator which used PDF 1.5 :-)
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bravesirkevin: If you have those, then creating a layered PDF is as simple as saving your layered file as a PDF and telling it to preserve the layer structure.
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bravesirkevin: Acrobat is not designed for authoring PDFs as it is not a design program. The main purpose of that software is really for tinkering with and optimising PDFs. In the Adobe suite of applications, you'd create your PDFs with Illustrator or InDesign.
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mproteau: I don't own any Adobe tools that can create PDFs, so I don't know. Sorry.
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Cardstock Dane: No, I meant Acrobat, not Photoshop. I'm talking of the creation of the layered PDF itself, not the photo editing work.
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mproteau: Cardstock Dane - do you mean from Photoshop instead of GIMP? I would be willing to bet that working with layers in Photoshop is EVEN BETTER than working with layers in GIMP. If you meant something else, let me know.
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Cardstock Dane: mproteau, would any of those layer guides work for Adobe as well?
Sept 25, 2015 0:37:16 GMT -9
mproteau: Guides for single- and multi-layered PDF creation using free software are up. I'll see about doing a quick guide on cutfile creation soon. As I'm making these at work, they're not getting my full attention, so please let me know if there are errors.
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