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Post by kiladecus on Aug 3, 2011 16:09:07 GMT -9
Ok... I am working on a Sci-Fi miniatures game with several factions. I plan on having a few expansions (in time) that will feature different factions. (For example I am planning on having my two Middle Eastern groups, the Jin'Dan Brotherhood and the Midian Knights, and the set will be called "Civil War"). My questions is this: WHICH TWO GROUPS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN THE FIRST RELEASE? The choices are: - Human Militia
- SYNFED (heavily armored human military)
- Xiarn Dynasty (Asian Warriors)
- Cier Empire (blue aliens that are kinda like the Roswell aliens)
- K'Vyk Hegemony (space elf aliens)
- Narcossian Dominion (killer robots)
- Natarro Clansmen (Viking Orcs... so I guess just Orcs)
- Or "Other" (insert suggestions)
This game will be a minatures game, but will have characteristics of a card game. I am planning on having things like a "Mine Field" card (for example) that someone can play from their hand as the enemy advances. More will follow on this. But for now, please just choose two options from the list above, please. Thank you in advance for your input!
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 3, 2011 19:18:29 GMT -9
Can we set this up as a poll?
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 4, 2011 1:18:09 GMT -9
I'm sure we can... just not sure how to do that. It was late last night when I posted this on my phone.
I plan on posting some quick pictures to help inspire the followers to vote. I figure that if you see a sample of what they look like, then that should help people decide which they might like to see.
I am pretty sure I have most of these races posted here in all of my older posts (the ones before I got my own board).
I will most likely do some fresh sketches to give the readers an idea of what to expect.
Thanks for the suggestion VK. I will have to check on that...
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Post by labrat on Aug 4, 2011 15:36:13 GMT -9
I would have to vote for SYNFED, and Narcossian Dominion.
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 4, 2011 17:36:43 GMT -9
WOW! Thanks for taking the time to respond, Labrat! Ok... that's one. Any other suggestions?
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 4, 2011 17:45:08 GMT -9
I was just thinking... ironically, the figures I submitted for the December Horde, the SKELETRON (Narcossian Dominion) and PSI-BORG (SYNFED), are ones that will be seeing their way into the game (eventually if not in the Core set)!
I will try to get a better picture of the XIARN trooper and repost it.
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 4, 2011 17:52:44 GMT -9
Ok... here are some quick sketches. Top left to bottom right (Cier Empire, K'Vyk, Narcossian Dominion, Xiarn Dynasty, SYNFED, and Natarro Clansmen). Before you say, "Wait, I didn't see the Clansmen on the list..." I forgot them. I will have to add them in. After all, what game would be complete without Viking Orcs that speak with Scottish accents and carry heavy machine-guns! Attachments:
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 4, 2011 18:20:45 GMT -9
Ok... here is the XIARN DYNASTY warrior. Each group will also have two tech levels... a primary (common) and a secondary (advanced). Each army will have two items from the list. The Base Troops will get the primary weapons, and the Veteran/Elite soldiers get the better weapons. In this case, here is a Dynast Warrior carrying a machine-gun (Auto/Machine) and the elite will get their Pulse Rifles. All weapons and troops at this point cost the same! How can that be? Faster troops have lighter armor. Better weapons are less common and EVERY weapon has its own benefit. Pulse weapons send out a barrage of bullets that pummel the target. Ballistic weapons (the lowest form of tech) have an Armor Piercing effect. So, as you can see, the original concept I came up with nearly 12 years ago is still a key factor... BALANCE. In my game, the only advantage you have over your opponent is the grey matter between your ears... and hopefully you can have decent die rolls! Attachments:
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 6, 2011 17:58:25 GMT -9
Actually, I have been doing quite a bit of work on this... and I figured out that I can have ONE more race to add the the list... I was thinking about adding Dwarves, but if I did, I think they would be part of the Natarro Clansmen... imagine Braveheart's "Mini-Me." So... since I am asking for input, I figure I can ask people about this too. I don't want to necessarily add more aliens to the game, because I have a few races already. I have the Asian, European, North American and Middle East covered. Is there anything I might be missing? I was considering using the FORGOTTEN, which is basically outcasts that were thrown over to Australia to basically die. Using recycled tech, they are rebuilding their nation... many were SYNFED civilians that were sick and cast aside... I think it is a great concept, but not great for a faction (more like a sub-plot for an RPG). OF COURSE, thinking of images of Mad Max and Judge Dredd, a post-apocalyptic faction could be great. There is also a race of cat-like creatures called Spedecians. I was thinking about this and realized that I can combine these guys with the K'Vyk and make the elves a little more animalistic without changing more than the hair and some facial features! The tech level that I have open (I have 6 weapon catagories) is Ballistic and Laser weapons. I could see the FORGOTTEN having scrounged weapons, so that MIGHT make sense. Another option is Mercenaries. They would fit nicely, but if that were the case, people would want to use aspects of each faction, and that could mess up the game mechanics. If I were going to do that, I might use these two factions in an expansion together called "The Battle of Austrailia." This is the final key I need to set up the backstory and have the game underway! (Well, there is one small detail I am lacking... a NAME for this game that hasn't been used or violates someone else's copyright!) Please let me know your thought and please comment. So far it looks like human armored soldiers fighting robots. Any non-clone war suggestions? Thanks again for your input!
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Post by okumarts on Aug 6, 2011 19:09:45 GMT -9
Viking Orcs! Viking Orcs! Viking Orcs!!!! Robots are always a good generic thing that people can add to their forces. I'm excited about viking orcs though, especially after seeing that picture.
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 6, 2011 20:04:58 GMT -9
Viking Orcs have to be in there
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 7, 2011 3:44:52 GMT -9
Well, this might be a selling point to mention that I have an orinthopter style hang-glider that will have a propeller and called "Dragon Fliers." Think of the wooden dragon head off of a Viking ship, only with wings... and machine-guns... Ok. This seems to be a favorite... I would like to poosibly see a human force to balance it out a little. Any other ideas?
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Post by josedominguez on Aug 7, 2011 6:46:33 GMT -9
couldn't resist
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 7, 2011 8:05:30 GMT -9
Wow, Jose! I was going to do some work on these today, but since you posted this anything I could do will fail in comparison! Oh well, I can use your work as a guide! I have given a LOT of consideration to the Dragon Fliers, and have the whole model laid out in my head. Will try to do a prototype and get something out there. Very excited about this whole concept. Also, I will be working on the Natarran Overlord, OG OF UR! Will try to get some sketches of him out there within the next few days!
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Post by josedominguez on Aug 7, 2011 8:16:48 GMT -9
I'm working on lots of orcs at the moment, so I have a lot of vectors floating around...... what sort of weapons do your viking orcs use? I can maybe put together enough basic models for that faction and you can concentrate on the personalities etc.... The whole viking look will come in handy as I can do a themed fantasy regiment for my stuff: Bjorn Hackskulls Orc Raiders or something similar. I can then mix and match those with the weapons/equipment from your setting There have been a few requests for sci-fi orks on the forums, so this would be a good excuse for me to do some. Plus, it's all good practice for me.
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Post by paladin on Aug 7, 2011 8:27:04 GMT -9
kiladecus, I recognize, that you put the "highlights" (and shadows) on the Xiarn's armor spot on. It pops out. jose, Viking Orc Harpoonier
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Post by josedominguez on Aug 7, 2011 8:52:58 GMT -9
I'm not sure why, but I can't give and orc anything but a ginger beard.
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 7, 2011 12:26:18 GMT -9
Jose, you have hit the nail on the head! Perfect! As far as weapons go, they have the standard axes, swords, maces, machine-guns, sub-machine guns, auto-cannons, heavy machine guns, and any laser weapons. Basically, each of my factions have two weapon types. These guys have machine guns and laser weapons (pistols, rifles and cannons). By doing this, I can focus on my Xiarn troopers (because the Vikings kill dragons, and the Xiarn worship dragons) I think it will be a natural set of enemies! (Plus I can incorporate dragons!) ;D Now, the next thing I will be doing will be the Dragon Fliers. Thanks, Jose! Only one small request... if you could do them with a tartan design, one red, and one blue on their kilts. Looks AWESOME!
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Post by josedominguez on Aug 8, 2011 2:23:41 GMT -9
I'll give it a go
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 8, 2011 6:04:18 GMT -9
Oh, my!!! These are great. If these are to be Ork as well as Orc, for the 40k folk, etc., weaponry should be over the top. Bigger is ALWAYS Better as a motto.
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Post by josedominguez on Aug 8, 2011 7:22:02 GMT -9
My thoughts exactly Once I've got the vectors done for Orcs, it's easy enough to create the additional parts for the clansmen and then for Orks. For example: He's not sure what game he's playing.
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 14, 2011 12:16:58 GMT -9
I have been working on about 5 projects currently, and I have taken a few minutes to do some sketches on my Natarro Clansmen ("Viking Orcs"). Here is what I came up with.
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 14, 2011 12:25:10 GMT -9
Yeah, the guy in the Hangman's hood has a beard tied into a noose! That was inspired! I think if I do them this way, I and try to draw them and do editing in GIMP. (Does anyone know if GIMP has a feature that allows you to view images with a graph?) I plan on doing a few bodies (legs and torsos), then doing arms and heads that can be swapped around. Once a get a few heads and bodies, I will focus on the arms. This will give me a good variety of parts to work with. I have also done some drawings for my Xiarn (which is Japanese for "thread", I believe... as in a thread of a quilt or tapestry. I figure they see themselves as a single thread, but together form a bigger object. Just a little insight of them). Once I get my computer out of the shop... AGAIN... I should be able to start working on this (and a few other projects) again. Please stay tuned, you never know when something amazing is about to happen.
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Post by squirmydad on Aug 14, 2011 14:33:34 GMT -9
Too late to vote? I vote for Narcossian Dominion (killer robots)
Who does not like killer robots. ;D JIM
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 14, 2011 16:47:38 GMT -9
Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh........ Wow! Big Jim himself just posted on my thread! First off, let me wish you a healthy recovery (been a little out of the loop, so I hope you are doing well). Secondly, there seems to be a toss up between the four factions: Narcossian Dominion Natarro Clansmen SYnfed And the Xiarn Dynasty (well, ok, I seem to be the only voting for them) I was wanting to do only two groups per release, and the Orcs have got the highest vote. The other three seem to be tied... but since the Dynast warriors are kinda too specific (meaning although the SYNFED is based out of EUROPE, there are more options for them), and the Militia (basically American military) is in a similar boat. I guess I need to break it down into specific rivalries.... Jin'Dan Brotherhood vs. Midian Knights (this will be a future expansion) SYNFED vs. Narcossian Dominion Natarro Clansmen vs. Xiarn Dynasty Earth Militia vs. Cier Empire And the K'Vyk vs. --------------- Ok. That makes sense. The two Middle Eastern groups, the two high-tech groups, the Dragon Hunters vs. The Dragon Warriors, the *Terra Force* (if I may use the title only to demostrate the type of units I plan on using) vs. the alien dudes. I actually have two slots left. I was thinking about the alien elf race, but I am open to suggestions! Ok. I have started working on artwork for these guys, so I haven't commited to anything yet! So, just because I may have said something was "settled" I am still prone to change my mind! (Learned that trick from my wife!) Ok, thanks for taking the time to vote. I appreciate any and all feedback!
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Post by josedominguez on Aug 15, 2011 3:34:10 GMT -9
I'm working on orcs with modern weapons for the August horde. Do you want some made into clansmen? Should be able to do a dozen or so. If so, what sort of weapons do you want?
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 15, 2011 12:22:14 GMT -9
Jose', I am ALWAYS willing to accept a friendly offer of help! ;D I listed the weapons above the I will be using for them. Here they are again: SMG's Machine Guns Heavy Machine Guns Missile Launchers Rocket Launchers Laser Rifles Laser Pistols and Laser Cannons These can look ANY way you want. I would prefer the Orks wear breastplates (the dirtier and damaged the better) with beards (and kilts are always a nice touch). That is about all I can think of right now... OH! And ANY type of melee weapons (regular or mechanized)! That should give you SOMETHING to work with! Thanks again, Jose'!
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Post by josedominguez on Aug 16, 2011 2:21:42 GMT -9
Excellent, that ties in with the Forum Horde too. I'll try and make some heads that are more like your sketches than my Warhammer type ones
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Post by kiladecus on Aug 16, 2011 16:06:27 GMT -9
Sounds awesome! Once I iron out the rules I will make sure you get a copy of them. (That is is you want them). I am sure that everyone thinks their game mechanics are the the best, but I can actually say that as it stands right now, you can have a squad of guys with swords and they are equally matched with a huge tank (at least at this point). Afterall, if you don't have a balanced game, how fun is that. There is only ONE issue I can't seem to resolve... there is now way to have a guy with swords attack a jet fighter! (Hovercrafts and VTOLs are one thing, but true jets and areospace fighters can't be attacked. I guess that if it came down to it it would be a "draw" because a fighter couldn't target one lone figure, and a guy with a sword couldn't engage a jet...). That is one little thing that MAY not be an issue! Afterall, one good strategy is use your guys to blow the winged support out of the sky to avoid this scenario!
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Post by kiladecus on Nov 4, 2011 15:37:47 GMT -9
I came across another problem today... COLORS!
I have all of my armies getting divided into two basic color schemes each.
Some examples of this are:
My evil nomadic warriors: Midian Knights - Black/Red Xiarn Dynasty (Oriental/ Fuedal) - Tan/Red and so forth.
I have a bunch of figures (including Darkmook's Extraction figures) that are yellow, and possibly black.
What sounds like a good army type for that?
Let me know (based on the info in this thread).
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