Except the tengu which you needs to glue the wings (which should not be an issue), and the lizard that needs attaching the shield (again not difficult), all minis in this series do not need gluing of small parts.
Every time I see your minis, Eddnic, I wonder, if flat 2D has any future. Brilliant concept by Cowboy, brilliant textures and execution by yourself. I am torn. 2D, 2.5D, 3D !?!? Which route to take ? Storage problems !? I guess, those minis are taking not (much) more time to assemble than traditional flat 2D ones !? I will try for myself ... .
Thanks alot for your ubergenerous sharing, Eddnic !
If you keep this pace, you will have 2.5Dfied "the" Monster Manuals in 5 to 10 years ;D.
@cowboy and @vermin King, those are two motivation mantras I should remember for the future. Thanks.
I wonder myself from a production and flexibility standpoint. 2D minis are lacking dimension, but are very easy to "individualize", cause of the endless posing possibilities. What you draw, is what you get. 2.5D minis are unbeatable in the dimensionality/time-tradeoff, but are much harder to wrap your head around as a designer (and consumer/customer). Different poses are possible though - and would be much interesting to explore. You could always give arms and legs different bendings. And if you manage to turn heads and upper bodies or pose the feet in different fighting stances, well, lots of potential here ... .
Interesting stuff, cowboyleland. So your 2.5D minis are not fix-glued !? (Eddnic's seem to be.) I have seen your "instant pop-up" design. This would be the most efficient technique for "here-we-go"-kind-of-people with the flattening-possibility built-in (?). You should explore this concept further.
There could be very simple solutions for the head and body "twists". Like folding or slots. But you will lose alot of folks, if it's too tiny/fiddly/complicated.
I would always put my minis into base slots - not fixed. Kork is a nice (luxury) material for that - as Gilius demonstrated. I have also thought of large post stamp collector books with those little paper pockets to put the minis in. You could label and sort your mini collection, put them out and in with a tweezer ;D. Sometimes I am very anal retentive, you know ... .
Don't worry about your textures. There are simple tricks to enhance the look significantly. Learn some basic shading/highlighting skills (choose one color, apply it, darken it, paint in the shadows with opacity 60%, lighten it, paint in some highlights with opacity 20% etc.). Use lots of photo textures, materials, structures. Learn to blend/mix/filter/color them in GIMP - there you are.
Eddnic's textures are splendid - with the help of other artists, as he admitted once. This could be a risky route in the long run (or even short run ... if some artists get whized ). Not recommended, if you wanna go down the biz or publicity road. Copyright checking (even for photos) is a must then. This is also an issue for trademarked names and concepts/designs. Not very wise move to publish a "Warhammer Paper" line. And the "Beholder" mini in one of the past Hoards is strictly "forbidden" by WotC's OGL. Though I think, WotC has other, really serious problems right now ;D.
There is a reason behind, why Jim, Okum or Dave (and others) are doing everything from scratch. No one can spit in their soup legally (well, there are other nasty internet crime possibilities, of course. Designers have been legally charged for ripping-off their OWN design - accused by the design-thieves ! No joke ... .).
Post by Steve Castro on Sept 19, 2011 8:59:42 GMT -9
Thanks a ton for making these 2.5D figures. They are my favorite so far and I was super excited when I saw yours for the first time and once I put one of your models together myself.
The 2D stuff is cool but from a player's natural top-down view it's a bit underwhelming. I thought 3D would be too complicated or too big, but your stuff has blown me away in its ability to be easily made and just the right scale. When mounted on black foamcore, I feel like I've made my own D&D mini!
I would love to see a full original game made with nothing but this style of minis. Maybe something with stats printed right on the base or even on the mini (like maybe attack value icon as a belt buckle or something). I'm a game designer myself (video games mostly) so I've been bouncing around miniature rulesets in my mind for a while now. Hopefully I'll come up with something at some point.
I will keep looking out for your work in the future!
Post by cowboyleland on Sept 26, 2011 14:56:33 GMT -9
I'm no Eddnic, but I did a little rescale and recolour on a first draft of a barghast. I'd like to go back and improve it some more, but I thought I'd post it in case you need a werewolf before I finnish the upgrades.
Also, I used the "dungeon" base texture, but if you want something else just let me know.
Wow, the barghast is lovely. Please do share it when it is finished.
Well, actually I am also working on two models for submitting to this month's hoard - one beastman and one werewolf. After test-building them, I found that the beastman is ok but the werewolf is not yet satisfactory. Unfortunately, I still need to photograph them. Anyway, if you are interested, they are available at:
Post by cowboyleland on Sept 27, 2011 18:35:23 GMT -9
Wow, even with those pictures it took a long time for me to grasp how those babies fit together. If anyone ever "comercialises" this 2.5D style, I think making instructions is going to be the major challenge.
BTW my philosophy on 2.5d is almost the opposite of yours. I keep making what D&D call "medium" because my (and my son's) players really like having a fig "just like I pictured my character" but I really think the collapsible 2.5d really gets it's value on the larger creatures. It is not hard to store goblins and orcs, but dragons and giants, I want to fold flat.
Vermin King: For Papercuts this year, I am just going to use things created since last Papercuts. Bessie for the model and Onager Longhauler for the kitbash. I was going to build 10 Downing St for a Bessie backdrop, but that ain't happening
Aug 23, 2019 4:16:26 GMT -9
Vermin King: I've decided I need to stop trying to get stuff back that I lost and get back to working on new stuff. Until work stuff gets caught up, I need to fight the rebuilding aspect.
Aug 23, 2019 4:13:09 GMT -9
okumarts: Let me know if you need anything VK.
Aug 22, 2019 18:07:28 GMT -9
Vermin King: My Doctor Who stuff is all gone... and couldn't get onto the company database for 4 1/2 hours today. Life has got to get better
Aug 22, 2019 9:56:14 GMT -9
Vermin King: It's been such a nightmare, I haven't been to OBS or your site yet. I just know they are gone
Aug 22, 2019 7:39:17 GMT -9
bravesirkevin: @vermin King, you should still be able to download the stuff you purchased from me again, if that helps. If you have any issues, just drop me a direct message and I'll send through whichever ones you can't download
Aug 21, 2019 18:28:51 GMT -9
Vermin King: And none of the Streetpaper Advent models were in there, and only seven of bravesirkevin's figures are in there, and none of my purchased ones... And the old Canon kid's models are still beyond reach
Aug 21, 2019 10:03:24 GMT -9
Vermin King: Oo, oo! I just saw the Olli Bizer models loading!
Aug 21, 2019 8:19:52 GMT -9
Vermin King: I feel less 'at a complete loss', now. I found a thumb drive of 'Papercraft'. Not sure how old it is, but it does have the Zio models, old Streetpaper, old Canon and HP models, etc. Now it is just an overwhelming loss
Aug 21, 2019 8:17:58 GMT -9
wyvern: VK: Now you also have the "joy" of the painfully slow shutdown and reboot every time (at least once a month) that Windows is made "better" by yet more unwanted clutter being downloaded to your system, plus a scatter of useless "desktop.ini" files.
Aug 20, 2019 6:08:48 GMT -9
Vermin King: After 3 1/2 hours of updating, I got this xxxxxxxx Win10 computer runnable. I'm really going to miss the ease of Win 7. Amazing all the stuff I did here that is just gone ... except for what I posted
Aug 19, 2019 18:38:15 GMT -9
squirmydad: I hope...lmk if you find something broken.
Aug 19, 2019 15:23:57 GMT -9
squirmydad: Onemonk.com fully functional once again!
Aug 19, 2019 15:23:39 GMT -9
cowboyleland: It looks like you guys are busy, but I would like to point out that the "Ghoul Design Tutorial." which would start to answer bobsomething 's question from Aug 10, is MIA (again)
Aug 13, 2019 6:13:32 GMT -9