Except the tengu which you needs to glue the wings (which should not be an issue), and the lizard that needs attaching the shield (again not difficult), all minis in this series do not need gluing of small parts.
Every time I see your minis, Eddnic, I wonder, if flat 2D has any future. Brilliant concept by Cowboy, brilliant textures and execution by yourself. I am torn. 2D, 2.5D, 3D !?!? Which route to take ? Storage problems !? I guess, those minis are taking not (much) more time to assemble than traditional flat 2D ones !? I will try for myself ... .
Thanks alot for your ubergenerous sharing, Eddnic !
If you keep this pace, you will have 2.5Dfied "the" Monster Manuals in 5 to 10 years ;D.
@cowboy and @vermin King, those are two motivation mantras I should remember for the future. Thanks.
I wonder myself from a production and flexibility standpoint. 2D minis are lacking dimension, but are very easy to "individualize", cause of the endless posing possibilities. What you draw, is what you get. 2.5D minis are unbeatable in the dimensionality/time-tradeoff, but are much harder to wrap your head around as a designer (and consumer/customer). Different poses are possible though - and would be much interesting to explore. You could always give arms and legs different bendings. And if you manage to turn heads and upper bodies or pose the feet in different fighting stances, well, lots of potential here ... .
Interesting stuff, cowboyleland. So your 2.5D minis are not fix-glued !? (Eddnic's seem to be.) I have seen your "instant pop-up" design. This would be the most efficient technique for "here-we-go"-kind-of-people with the flattening-possibility built-in (?). You should explore this concept further.
There could be very simple solutions for the head and body "twists". Like folding or slots. But you will lose alot of folks, if it's too tiny/fiddly/complicated.
I would always put my minis into base slots - not fixed. Kork is a nice (luxury) material for that - as Gilius demonstrated. I have also thought of large post stamp collector books with those little paper pockets to put the minis in. You could label and sort your mini collection, put them out and in with a tweezer ;D. Sometimes I am very anal retentive, you know ... .
Don't worry about your textures. There are simple tricks to enhance the look significantly. Learn some basic shading/highlighting skills (choose one color, apply it, darken it, paint in the shadows with opacity 60%, lighten it, paint in some highlights with opacity 20% etc.). Use lots of photo textures, materials, structures. Learn to blend/mix/filter/color them in GIMP - there you are.
Eddnic's textures are splendid - with the help of other artists, as he admitted once. This could be a risky route in the long run (or even short run ... if some artists get whized ). Not recommended, if you wanna go down the biz or publicity road. Copyright checking (even for photos) is a must then. This is also an issue for trademarked names and concepts/designs. Not very wise move to publish a "Warhammer Paper" line. And the "Beholder" mini in one of the past Hoards is strictly "forbidden" by WotC's OGL. Though I think, WotC has other, really serious problems right now ;D.
There is a reason behind, why Jim, Okum or Dave (and others) are doing everything from scratch. No one can spit in their soup legally (well, there are other nasty internet crime possibilities, of course. Designers have been legally charged for ripping-off their OWN design - accused by the design-thieves ! No joke ... .).
Post by Steve Castro on Sept 19, 2011 8:59:42 GMT -9
Thanks a ton for making these 2.5D figures. They are my favorite so far and I was super excited when I saw yours for the first time and once I put one of your models together myself.
The 2D stuff is cool but from a player's natural top-down view it's a bit underwhelming. I thought 3D would be too complicated or too big, but your stuff has blown me away in its ability to be easily made and just the right scale. When mounted on black foamcore, I feel like I've made my own D&D mini!
I would love to see a full original game made with nothing but this style of minis. Maybe something with stats printed right on the base or even on the mini (like maybe attack value icon as a belt buckle or something). I'm a game designer myself (video games mostly) so I've been bouncing around miniature rulesets in my mind for a while now. Hopefully I'll come up with something at some point.
I will keep looking out for your work in the future!
Post by cowboyleland on Sept 26, 2011 14:56:33 GMT -9
I'm no Eddnic, but I did a little rescale and recolour on a first draft of a barghast. I'd like to go back and improve it some more, but I thought I'd post it in case you need a werewolf before I finnish the upgrades.
Also, I used the "dungeon" base texture, but if you want something else just let me know.
Wow, the barghast is lovely. Please do share it when it is finished.
Well, actually I am also working on two models for submitting to this month's hoard - one beastman and one werewolf. After test-building them, I found that the beastman is ok but the werewolf is not yet satisfactory. Unfortunately, I still need to photograph them. Anyway, if you are interested, they are available at:
Post by cowboyleland on Sept 27, 2011 18:35:23 GMT -9
Wow, even with those pictures it took a long time for me to grasp how those babies fit together. If anyone ever "comercialises" this 2.5D style, I think making instructions is going to be the major challenge.
BTW my philosophy on 2.5d is almost the opposite of yours. I keep making what D&D call "medium" because my (and my son's) players really like having a fig "just like I pictured my character" but I really think the collapsible 2.5d really gets it's value on the larger creatures. It is not hard to store goblins and orcs, but dragons and giants, I want to fold flat.
oldschooldm: Yup. More power to anyone who tries it. It will only whet the appetite for people who want paper minis that were designed to be paper minis. :-) Fronts and Backs FOREVER! :-) [... it's bait, don't bite it! ... ]
Mar 25, 2019 8:13:22 GMT -9
cowboyleland: Now I have seen it. It doesn't advance our hobby, but anyone with half a brain who wanted 2nd rate figures could easily figure this out for themselves so I guess he isn't doing any harm.
Mar 19, 2019 17:53:59 GMT -9
berneart76: well, this is fun, (not) transferring all my papercrafting sets into the cloud. The stuff I got from DriveTrhruRPG was simple with their library desktop app,but my other stuff, sometimes with multiple duplicate copies is entertaining.
Mar 1, 2019 15:44:32 GMT -9
berneart76: Vermin King I usually use a mix of drybrush/watercolor/photocopy and occasionally posterizing at different levels of opacity.
Feb 26, 2019 20:46:54 GMT -9
berneart76: Vermin King, that's similar to the enhancing that I do on my texturing. I've found that sometimes I need to scale up or scale down the image (usually by 50 or 25 percent down or 200 or 300 percent up) to make get the enhancements to look "right"
Feb 26, 2019 20:44:53 GMT -9
Vermin King: On the zebras, I did multiple enhancements and cartoon filters and used them at 100%, and they still didn't look that different than the photos
Feb 26, 2019 12:27:26 GMT -9
Vermin King: When I make a figure or terrain piece based on a photo, I clean it up and align things to look 'right', then I create another layer and do enhancing and cartoonizing on it. I then adjust opacity over the photo image until it looks good. On the zebras,
Feb 26, 2019 12:26:35 GMT -9
Vermin King: berneart76, do you mean giving them green or purple manes and tails? and a few piercings? maybe a cig hanging out of their mouths?
Feb 26, 2019 12:24:18 GMT -9
Vermin King: cartoonizing a zebra doesn't do much
Feb 20, 2019 5:59:28 GMT -9
Vermin King: And due to the snow, I'm off tonight. I am going to miss the cash on the paycheck, but I'm glad they want their employees to be safe
Feb 15, 2019 10:52:24 GMT -9
ignatious: Actually I was referring to the two previous posts. I was trying to be subtle in order to sublimate the crassness. Read them again, but in Mel Brooks voice while he is winking, and nudging the person to his right.
Feb 9, 2019 13:38:11 GMT -9
Vermin King: Sure. Euphemize us
Feb 8, 2019 18:40:48 GMT -9
ignatious: would anyone care for a euphemism?
Feb 8, 2019 13:40:27 GMT -9
cowboyleland: We hadn't had snow for a few days. Last night the plow came down my street and did nothing but fill every ones driveways back in. Just for practice, I guess.
Feb 8, 2019 7:48:16 GMT -9
Vermin King: In KC we had an ice storm (with thunder sleet) the other night. Left things drivable, but last night the plow came down my street. They took all the rough edges off. Might as well have ran a Zamboni...
Feb 8, 2019 6:42:32 GMT -9
okumarts: Vermin King... Mind Blown!
Feb 5, 2019 19:32:30 GMT -9