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Post by slayerdragonwing on Nov 7, 2011 7:50:56 GMT -9
They look awesome, can't wait to see them in colour and with backs!
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Post by emergencyoverride on Nov 7, 2011 9:57:24 GMT -9
Those look good! Ready to smash up some unsuspecting travelers in a gloomy forest. ;D
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Post by requiem on Nov 7, 2011 12:48:41 GMT -9
those 2 sketches look awesome! So, are they ready yet?
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Post by labrat on Nov 7, 2011 14:48:32 GMT -9
Well they're still in design phase. I now have the general look and proportions done, but I have to design the individual figures. I have big plans for them. They will be roudy and wild!
I will start drawing out figures soon. In addition to working on the orc designs I've been pushing pretty hard to get the ranged weapon dwarves finished.
If you guys wanted I could complete the concept sketch to a full paper mini, and maybe throw it in a hoard or something. I'll go ahead and do that.
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 7, 2011 14:50:58 GMT -9
I do believe that you have found the best look for Orcs/Orks. They definitely look Orcish, and yet they don't look like every other Orc out there. Wonderful interpretation. Like Kiladecus said, though, I'd do some Fantasy Orc weaponry and some SciFi Ork weaponry. Now that you have your basic guy fleshed out you can now let your imagination come up with the details.
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Post by Rhannon on Nov 7, 2011 23:20:24 GMT -9
Labrat, orcs thank you. ;D
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 8, 2011 8:03:29 GMT -9
Looks like Shrek is having a bad day ... LOL
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Post by labrat on Nov 12, 2011 7:57:46 GMT -9
Here are some of my very early rough sketches. These are definitely a WIP, so don't be too harsh yet, but your input is still welcome. I hope to have at least another 4, for a total of 10 orcs for the first orc set. Still thinking these are something you would buy, and fill your table top with?
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Post by kiladecus on Nov 12, 2011 9:07:38 GMT -9
Just tell me when you are ready for my PayPal number!@
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Post by Parduz on Nov 12, 2011 12:08:01 GMT -9
I should not say this, as i'm somewhat involved in the creation process (more or less in the same measure of a single yellow leaf in an autumn panorama), but honestly i think that this set could be even better than the Barbarians, that are right now the Top of Labrat art.
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Post by cowboyleland on Nov 12, 2011 16:52:21 GMT -9
very powerful poses. I like the look of these!
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Post by slayerdragonwing on Nov 12, 2011 21:58:22 GMT -9
Those look awesome, are you going to be having some other poses with more armour?
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Post by kiladecus on Nov 13, 2011 4:12:42 GMT -9
I think if you were to do a couple mirrored/hoizontal flips with a couple poses, and switch out the weapons... and do a couple detail options (like scars, patches over an eye, broken tusks...) and come up with 4 more doing that, then you core units will be done. Just do the backs and color... After reading this... it might be easier just to draw 4 new figures!
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Post by nikloveland on Nov 13, 2011 6:22:47 GMT -9
and do a couple detail options (like scars, patches over an eye, broken tusks...) That's a pretty good idea. A 'battle-worn' optional layer. It makes my job harder but Aaron and I can talk about it. BTW, I really like the shields & swords on these guys.
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Post by Dagger on Nov 13, 2011 8:30:56 GMT -9
I really like Orcs 1, 3, and 6. And I really hope you include the one from a previous post with "some armor and weapons thrown on". It's a simple pose, but it looks intimidating.
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Post by magpiestear on Nov 19, 2011 13:49:05 GMT -9
Short curly hair is more of a Hobbit Trait!!!
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Post by pblade on Nov 19, 2011 20:58:12 GMT -9
Short curly hair is more of a Hobbit Trait!!! Hey now, don't be dissin' a dude's 'rents! Them's fightin' words! ;D - Pb
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Post by labrat on Nov 20, 2011 17:09:42 GMT -9
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Post by kiladecus on Nov 21, 2011 2:03:28 GMT -9
It's an Orc thing... you wouldn't understand!
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Post by sammo on Nov 21, 2011 12:47:07 GMT -9
I'm a little late to the party I know, but I'll toss my 2 cents in anyway.
First I love these sketches and I will totally buy the set when they are completed.
My real issue is going to be what I use them for. Wargamers probably love the larger than life orcs and want to see them running across the battlefield to crush their foes. Why not. Who would want to play an army full of wimps?
Me, I'm more into RPGs and all of the supper bad-a-mo-fo orcs don't seem to fit with that model. In many RPGs, orcs are fodder, taken down a dozen at a time by a competent hero. Your orcs look like they could dismember someone without a weapon!
I thinks it's why I like the pig faced orcs, they seem oafish enough to be easy targets, but still dangerous if you slap a bunch of them down on the table.
Anyway, I'm not lobbying you to change your design or anything (like I said they look awesome), but when I buy this set they are going to be some nasty tribe of half trolls or some such and I'll still have my players massacring bumbling pig faced orcs!
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Post by Adam Souza on Nov 21, 2011 21:00:41 GMT -9
Still thinking these are something you would buy, and fill your table top with? HELL YEAH !!
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Post by kiladecus on Nov 22, 2011 6:08:42 GMT -9
I couldn't have said that better myself.
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Nov 22, 2011 8:10:28 GMT -9
Uhhh... yes.
onemonkeybeau
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Post by labrat on Nov 23, 2011 4:01:04 GMT -9
Thanks sammo for chiming in. I can totally see your point of view on this. It is hard to get the mood just right for both wargamers and RPG'ers. I would say that these orcs were more geared toward the wargamer. In fact I never really thought of it in those terms.
I am definitely going to proceed with this set as is, but I will keep in mind what you have brought up. For now though, this set is just what I'm going for.
One thing that you could try, once I finish the set, is scaling them down so that they don't look quite as imposing to your heroes.
Thanks again for the input.
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Post by Parduz on Nov 23, 2011 4:26:15 GMT -9
Taking a pause on my part of work on the sketches (literally) i've read sammo reply... it's amazing how each one of us have his envision. I always use Goblins and Cobolds as "cannon fodder", while Orcs are "human sized" enemies that starts to put a real fear. Part 'cause my imaginations is like this, part 'cause D&D3.5 have Half-orcs as playing charachters (so i put human and orcs on the same "level"), part 'cause i play "low level" D&D as i don't like half-gods PCs wandering around a world when they could already rule it
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Post by sammo on Dec 5, 2011 9:56:48 GMT -9
I suppose it shouldn't be a big surprise that we all have different uses for minis, and want different things out of minis sets (I certainly wasn't implying mine was the "right" point of view.
One thing I didn't mention about the sets that have been released lately (mostly Sanity Studios and Okumarts crossing my mind right now) is that although I am going to be using them primarily for RPGs, I really like the war-game style release that gives you a group of minis that are essentially the same (different poses or weapons or colors) so that they can be used whenever you need a bunch of somethings for a battle.
I have tons of metal/plastic minis from my years as a gamer, so when it comes to the one notable orc or NPC I have quite a few options, but when I need 25 of one kind of miniature I have less choices. So whether it's Drew's town folk, Okum's orcs or wood-elves, Sanity's humans (or orcs or dwarves), being able to fill up a table with these awesome looking minis is pretty sweet.
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Post by labrat on Dec 22, 2011 5:57:09 GMT -9
I've been taking a break for a while. Now it's time to start working on these guys again and get them finished up.
Funny thing is I wasn't really even burned out, I just got sidetracked with other interests for a while. I think that's ok to do from time to time.
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Post by kiladecus on Dec 23, 2011 9:12:55 GMT -9
We'll overlook it THIS time, Labrat! ;D Take your time. It will be worth the wait! But, just don't take too long... I am impatient.
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Post by labrat on Dec 30, 2011 15:43:12 GMT -9
The orcs are coming along. All the pencil work is done and I'm working on the inking. Once I have all these guys done, I plan to do one more bonus orc. I'm going to film the process start to finish and post a video for all to see the process from the beginning to the finished product. I think that will be a fun little project.
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Post by revgunn on Dec 30, 2011 15:58:20 GMT -9
I can't begin to tell you how good these look. Awesome dynamics to the poses, lots and lots of character. You've impressed me again man.
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