Got nostalgic mood today... I was browsing through my archives (not digital actually but printed issues, preview and test printouts etc.) and ultimately I've found many interesting, almost forgotten resources!
EDIT: Actually this Samurai is taken (and modified) from cover of one from mine first printed issues (year 2004), you can preview more figurines here: www.kartonowefigurki.pl/sub-ka02.html
Hehh... clear lines, flat colors, no textures at all...
There is a whole story behind this issue - for example second from right "sepia-like" figurine (lowest row) - attacking armored Samurai is based on my dad photo - I asked him to grab a mop-stick and pretend warrior, while I was taking pictures... ;D
... How can you get those other figures, as well? I didn't see a link...
These figurines (just to make it clear these are of course all 2 sides!) are 60mm printed on heavy cardstok as part of my magazine Kartonowa Armia (Cardboard Army). These figurines are from issue #2 (there is 35 issues total in this format). Print quality is very high and can't be even compared with printouts from home/office printers (plus there is an additional thin lacquer layer on top of figurines which gives extra look and prevents figurines).
You could purchase it but 1) all text pages are in Polish language 2) overseas shipping costs could be comparable if not even higher than the magazine itself (ca. 5-7EUR), so it probably wouldn't make any sense I'm afraid... Anyway I can name at least couple persons from these forums who got KA printed issues - one of them is Rhannon (well, not a secret as he already admit it in one or two threads).
There is also possibility to order digital version - but again - it's targeted more for Paper Soldier collectors - for use in 30mm gaming you should 1) add black outline 2) rescale/print (ca. 50% rescaling should be fine enough) 3) cut-off my bases or rather use it parts as tab (well tabs/base issue is obvious and quite easy).
Actually I'm (slowly still constantly;) converting 60mm into 30mm scale, adding new poses, accessories and modding plus applying new colors and light/shadow effects- vide Templars and Greek Hoplites plus some Fantasy minis as well.
These Samurais are from 2004 so colors are flat, no extra texturing etc... so it could need some extra work to make them according to my own nowadays standards... but maybe someday?
... Anyway I can name at least couple persons from these forums who got KA printed issues - one of them is Rhannon (well, not a secret as he already admit it in one or two threads).
You revealed my secret! ...
This is not a bad thing, for me it is very nice to have the chance to talk about paper soldiers.
I love paper soldiers ( but they are a different thing from paper minis. ). A their own tradition over the years, today I can say centuries. A different scale, which brings a different details' quality, different colorations' modes ( in traditional paper soldiers there are no shadows, lights ... but only consistent bright colors ... )
For this I like very much mesper's works (both paper soldiers that paper minis) and the paper minis' original interpretation by russian guys ( new friends for me )
Of course I like it very much all paper minis but many retain a strong correlation with GW products and the real life coloring of the metal minis.
1 - there are different interpretations of the present paper minis. 2 - paper soldiers and paper minis are similar products but they must maintain specific differences 3 - mesper has its own type of transition from paper soldiers to paper minis ( he adds new colors and light/shadow effects ... ) 4 - russian guys have a different interpretation of the passage from soldiers to minis. I see this as a direct passage, uninterrupted. Also the use of the poses are different. For a front view they prefer a side view ...
OK. I'm stopping ... sorry for OT, these are just my personal opinions.
... These Samurais are from 2004 so colors are flat, no extra texturing etc... so it could need some extra work to make them according to my own nowadays standards... but maybe someday?
I have all the available numbers of the magazine. Two copies of each issue. Photos can not make the real quality but I never found the courage to cut. Even so I expect the Kartonowa Armia digital version. ;D
Last Edit: Nov 24, 2012 23:50:31 GMT -9 by Rhannon
I would like to order a digital version, does your site have that capability?
Resizing and adding a black border are features that only take me a few minutes so the extra effort to convert them to 30mm playing pieces wouldn't bother me at all.
Let's make a "deal" - I'll send you via email digital version (cover, sheets with figurines, info/instruction - without text pages) and after you made figurines please take some photos which I could use (for previews etc.) later when/if I'll convert this issue into 30mm scale, OK?
Just drop me a line with email address via PM if you like this kind of deal
Post by old squirmydad on Dec 21, 2012 10:49:48 GMT -9
I didn't say which monday so these are either very late or a touch early.
Okay, it took me more than a couple minutes, more like a few hours as I was making some reduction mistakes at the very start. These are straight 50% reductions at 300dpi, the front black border is 9px and the back black border is 18px. I thought they came out very nice but there is a marked difference in quality between these and your newer creations. Here's some pics;
Old samurai with new templar (he got on the wrong ship);
Here's one of your with one from Okum and one from me for scale comparison;
There were a few that seemed to be made at a slightly different (larger) scale than the rest of the set and kind of tower over their fellows;
Fig 2 archer is also slightly bigger like these two. They were initially scaled the same as the rest of the group, before I print them again I'll rescale those three individually to match everybody else.
I didn't add any highlight or shadow to the colors, nor adjust the brightness or saturation-I wanted to work them in their "original" formatting first. I did add some highlight to a few arrows, scabbards, and hilts that were solid black so that they wouldn't disappear into the expanded black border.
Thanks for letting me play with these! ;D
Disclaimer; Ground tiles by Fat Dragon Games, tree wall by WorldWorks Games, other terrain from MiP Showcase #9.
Wow... very nice scenery and photos (and of course figurines:) Many thanks for posting!!!
Ad. Quality difference - youp, I'm aware. These figures are from 2003/2004 (print release), plain/simple colors, no shadows, no light effects and no textures at all. Actually colors could be more bright and saturated - especially with 30mm scale in mind.
I have also Japanese medieval civilians (women preparing tea, walking and dancing geishas, shogun's courtiers, merchants etc.) and a lot of scenery and props plus even more warriors - it could be enough content for 2-3 big sets - whole Samurai Suite! So perhaps one day I'll remake all these according to nowadays "standard". Well, I'd like to do this as it's interesting historical period and it could be a lot of fun doing this - but, hmm, the question is would be any interest for such "suite" for RPG gamers...?
BTW (just asking! ;D) Have you tried also with these (the mounted one on prancing horse might be troublesome, especially all those bushes, grass and arrows should be probably removed for 30mm version, I suppose)?
Once again - thanks for superb photos and comments!
Post by old squirmydad on Jan 1, 2013 16:05:43 GMT -9
Sorry, I meant to photograph the other miniatures, but they took a wrong turn on their way to the studio and were unfortunately eaten by giant spiders and scorpions. So, unfortunately, I have no photographs of them.
*Additional models and miniatures by Sirrob01, Eddnic and papermodels.at
As far as market viability for a number of Samurai figure sets, I honestly can't say. I'd buy them all myself, however, I believe I am a minority. There are very few plastic and resin manufacturers of samurai miniatures, their work is highly praised....but I have a feeling they don't really sell that many of them. Justa guess from the gut, not a definitive market analysis.
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