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Post by aaron on Apr 28, 2014 17:24:25 GMT -9
ok so I made a bet with a friend ... If I won he had to build 4 terrain pieces for Temporim oblitus ... If I lost I had to make 7 new units for his 28mm woodland elves ... I would like to say that I will be showing off my new terrain pieces ... I would like to say that but instead I will be showing off his new 28mm woodland elves ... *sigh* sometimes you lose. ok so this is my first serious attempt at making a 28mm model and I am learning a TON like don't bite off more than you can chew and check your angles ... mostly why I don't normally do 28mm Also a huge shout out to Kevin for telling me how to scale the models and so this is a wip of My friends hero on a " Gerald Williams" stag when I am finished with it I will post it here for you all ! mights well, since I have to do it anyway no reason everyone else can't profit from it ... oh ya any advice for working in 28mm would be greatly appreciated!
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Post by hackbarth on Apr 29, 2014 5:59:59 GMT -9
Thanks, can you lose bets more frequently? :-)))
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Post by aaron on Apr 29, 2014 8:01:33 GMT -9
LOL well I am certainly eating a big plate of crow ... you know with the right seasoning it's not that bad !
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Post by pavaro on Apr 29, 2014 8:34:23 GMT -9
If you have such bets, we ask for more. Seeing your work, I want refresh my models. Nice figure. I saw many kinds the base of figures but this is good idea. I worry whether it will be stable. What in case if blade of grass will be not? Just a thin strip of the base?
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 29, 2014 8:54:30 GMT -9
I've done a couple figures/models with a 'tent' base. I usually cut a thick piece of cardboard (like the backs of legal tablets)to fit the rectangle. I then glue to the inside of the 'tent'. It is usually enough weight to make it stable, as long as it isn't outside on a windy day.
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Post by oldschooldm on Apr 29, 2014 9:02:26 GMT -9
I like the grass blades on the base - but won't they appear "white" on the flip side when assembled?
For me, that's easily fixed with a green marker....
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Post by aaron on Apr 29, 2014 10:39:18 GMT -9
oh ya ... I didn't think about that... hummm it's kind of wonky but it works .... LOL
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Apr 29, 2014 10:47:54 GMT -9
Assuming the standee is slotted straight in, then the black base will hide the fact that it doesn't line up. If you make both sides of grass mirror each other, then it would further reduce the issue. And, ya gotta be edging anyway, so why not color in the back of the grass while you're there? I'd prefer that to double-thick grass that needs to be cut out... Nice figure, by the way!
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Post by migibb on Apr 29, 2014 12:27:27 GMT -9
That is really fantastic aaron!!! Like everyone else I hope you lose a few more bets down the road.... Though, I have to admit to being a fan of the black borders round the figures myself.......
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Post by aaron on Apr 29, 2014 13:04:15 GMT -9
thanks very much ! that's cool you are certainly allowed to like the black borders. at least I have never seen a law preventing it .... I like the white borders because they really make the color pop and on all my models I cut it off. though admittedly I'm probably not going to print these they're too small LOL next up the dragon ... yes he wants a dragon , a row of archers , elves mounted on the fantasy creature of his choosing and then Dryads then shall see about the remaining 2 units from there... * sigh* next time I will just keep my big mouth shut!
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Post by mesper on Apr 29, 2014 13:12:42 GMT -9
WOW - like these mounts!!!
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Post by migibb on Apr 29, 2014 13:52:28 GMT -9
Well I look forward to seeing the rest of the stuff which you are begrudgingly producing!!! lol!
You should seriously think about putting them in a pdf and selling it through DTRPG. I'm sure you could make a few bucks.....
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Post by WackyAnne on Apr 29, 2014 14:19:58 GMT -9
Aaron's been spending most of the last year designing a papercraft wargame to rival WH40K; destined, we all hope, to make millions Or at least revolutionize the hobby and gain papercraft the broader respect it deserves. He's aiming at the adolescent and young adult set who have the time and disposable income that most of us can only dream of, now...
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Post by aaron on Apr 29, 2014 15:17:18 GMT -9
thanks Ann I couldn't' have said it better myself! two reasons I'm begrudgingly doing this ... One I need to be working on Temporum Oblitus (Squirmy dad has seen the rule book and he know how VERY far away I am from being done) and two I'm not a fan of 28mm ok my beef with 28mm ... you see I started my art career as a children's storybook illustrator so lots of details and everything is hyper exaggerated and full of bright colors. From there I went on to illustrate a number comic books the most famous of which you have never heard of so it's not worth mentioning however, it was full of crazy action and just the right amount of detail .... now papercraft.... at 38mm I can get in all the detail I want and have fun with the design at 28mm you have almost no detail or rather just enough to give you the idea of something but not enough to make it tell it's own story. colors are off a lot if you want something to be dark brown you have to make it a lite tan and then when it prints it will be a smudgy brown color ... it's not that 28mm is bad I'm just not used to it... soooo enough complaining on with the archers and Dragon ! I will call them Splinter Wood Elves ... cuz day like a splinter in ma finger !
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Post by squirmydad on Apr 30, 2014 8:16:00 GMT -9
You may not like 28mm but you do have a good amount of detail and contrast in these figures to make them work. Here is the how-to for tabbed bases from the One Monk Tutorials page so you don't have to reinvent the wheel; Tabbed bases
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Post by aaron on Apr 30, 2014 12:59:52 GMT -9
You may not like 28mm but you do have a good amount of detail and contrast in these figures to make them work. Here is the how-to for tabbed bases from the One Monk Tutorials page so you don't have to reinvent the wheel; Tabbed bases I think I wine to much about 28mm as it forces me to think and be creative and who needs that! I really need to just stop being such a baby about it and get 'er done! yay!!! some one who had a better idea about basses! well at least great minds think alike !! and then sometimes I get lucky and think like you guys too... I'm glad I don't have to re-invent the wheel I never understood Pi R squared anyway where did they get pi from and how come I never got any! .... hummmmm ok here's my Splinter wood Dragon Wip first yes it's HUGE. I always thought that a Dragon should be the centerpiece of any tabletop (whatever it is ) they should be ... impressive .... they should make your players look at it and go .... HOLY FREAK WE HAVE TO FIGHT THAT!!! in a Warhammer type game they should be the centerpiece of your army and should DOMINATE the table... the Elf riding it is the Queen she's not only the ruler of the other Splinter Wood Elves but she's a Bad @$$ she would have to be to control that thing. everything she has is purely for show as she spends most of her time just holding on... and lets face it she's not going to do a whole lot of fighting as most enemy units would spend their time running away from that HUGE monster between her legs.... ahem I digress. ok so the wings and the bottom legs are going to be separate to create balance and a tripod to base it on ... unless some one else has a better segestion .... which seems to happen frequently also I didn't think of this until just now but Squirmydad, if you want to , I would be honored if you add these to the forum Hoard. I can change stuff if it helps.
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Post by wildagreenbough on Apr 30, 2014 16:40:59 GMT -9
Yay for huge green dragons and bad ass Queens
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Post by squirmydad on Apr 30, 2014 19:33:08 GMT -9
That'd be groovy Aaron, the Hoard will happily welcome some forest elves. Here's a link to Sirob01's paperminis, his dragons are at the bottom of the page and may give you some good ideas for assembling your version. Sirrob01 paperminisI mounted his dragon with rider on black foam-core for a stable base, you can also take a look at Jim's MMiP#26 Red Dragon in the Downloads section (about halfway down the page) - OneMonk Downloads
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Post by aaron on May 1, 2014 2:50:46 GMT -9
that's perfect! it's exactly what I was going for. that blue dragon is fantastic! the red one is great to I was thinking the wings would be a counterbalance to the head ... we shall see!
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Post by aaron on May 2, 2014 6:03:11 GMT -9
here's the first three of 16 splinter wood archers
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Post by wyvern on May 2, 2014 9:40:16 GMT -9
Like the elaborate "vine-scroll" bows. Probably totally impractical in real-world use ("I just snapped my bowstring again. Couldn't we maybe get someone to make us simpler bows?"), but they look great
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Post by dungeonmistress on May 2, 2014 10:27:43 GMT -9
Wicked! I love them!
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Post by aaron on May 2, 2014 11:59:10 GMT -9
thanks guys ! The strings are made from high tinsel silk from the Stone spider ! it's a denizen of the splinter woods. thier silk is soooo strong it's virtually unbreakable ... ya that sounds good.... aaaand it's probably worth mentioning that the bows are actually straight out of WOW ... LOL hey if it works for Blizzard why not us?
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Post by aaron on May 2, 2014 19:02:34 GMT -9
WIP .... the wings take up a page each. this monster is defiantly ...well a monster. it will not be for the inkedly challenged.
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Post by madarchitect on May 3, 2014 2:20:31 GMT -9
I really like the looks of this creature. Some kind of were/horse/bull/stag . Much better for a battle mount than what GW is putting up lately for their WE cavalry. (I mean their bambi riders)
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Post by aaron on May 3, 2014 4:51:48 GMT -9
I hate to admit it but ... I kinda like the bambi thing they have going on. LOL It has that swift moving fragile feel to it that matches the wood elf army. Out of all the armies in the WFB game the wood elves are the fastest and the weakest. (this is not to say they are weak or should be dismissed in anyway ) they are just more sleek and fragile than the high elves or the dark elves. soooo ya I think the bambi thing kinda works ... but that's just my useless opinion I haven't played whfb in like 15 years so what do I know?
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Post by dungeonmistress on May 3, 2014 7:14:53 GMT -9
WIP .... the wings take up a page each. this monster is defiantly ...well a monster. it will not be for the inkedly challenged. I love the wings, nicely done. Why do his horns curl up to his chin? It looks like he would more easily impale himself than use them for defense or attack. One other thing... What happened to his tail? That's something else that is important for defense and attack. Beyond that... I like him.
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Post by aaron on May 3, 2014 14:40:27 GMT -9
welcome to reciprocating Native Fantasy wild kingdom ! In this episode we will study the Greater green Dragons found only in hart of Splinterwood, The greater green Dragon begins it's life as a whelp born into a clutch of three or four. Sadly many of those eggs will never reach adulthood as though a mother Dragon can be fierce and terrible she can't always protect her offspring from predators. Lets watch now as one of the eggs begins to hatch. See the spine growing out of the young dragons nose. that's a form of egg tooth and will eventually fall off to be replaced by a leathery upper lip.Notice also that he has no wings at all. The wings of the Greater green dragon don't start to grow in for the first two years of it's life. This leaves it free to move quickly through the underbrush and hunt its food as well as avoid the predators that will be stalking it for a few years to come. Once the Dragon is borne his mother will leave the clutch to their own devices and are young male has to grow up very quickly. Now quickly for a Dragon is a relative term as it will take nearly 70 years before he reaches his full height but as we skip forward to his adolescence we see that he's the size of a large horse and his wings have fully developed at this point. It's time to try out the wings. tentatively he stands on the precipice of a large drop and with one final act of courage he pushes off leaving terra firma behind as he soars ( albeit awkwardly ) through the skies. Yes flying will take some getting used to but in time he will become an aerial master. Here we have caught up to our Dragon and we find him sniffing around an old rock quarry. For many years it was unknown why the greater green dragons were drawn to sites such as these and we sit quietly as he sniffs out and chooses a piece of rock and uncharacteristically begins to gnaw away at it until he has completely devoured it. It is the Magnesium in the rocks that he is after. soon it will be dissolved in his stomach and is absorbed into his blood and transported into a special bladder where it becomes the final ingredient in a volatile cocktail of gasses that when mixed with oxygen explodes into a stream of flame. It is clear by his unhappy look that he's going to need some practice at directing the flow of his fire. As we skip forward another 60 years we see our young male at the peak of his maturity his wings are large and impressive. Looking upon him we see him as all have come to invison the Greater green dragon of Splinterwood. The Orange yellow coloration is as much to impress females as it is to scare off rivals and the same with his horns they aren't for defense as the teeth , fire , claws and spines are all good for defense. the Horns are to impress the ladies ... the bigger the horns the more likely he's going to have the right stuff ... they won't impale him because they curl around the side of his head. The Greater green dragon male's horns will grow for the remainder of his life and Dragon skulls have been found that have horns weighing in excess of 300 lbs. The spines are like fingernails, they can filed down and they will grow back. Often those who are talented enough to ride such a creature must file down the spines where the saddle will be. the tail of the greater dragon ends in a large bony protrusion that is shapes like a scythe perfect for splitting wood and skulls alike. Dragons will spend hours sharpening it on trees and rocks. Though the SplinterWood elves have taken to riding these great monsters they can only do so because the rider develops an affinity with the dragon at a very young age. this requires patience and a near psychic ability that only one elf in a thousand will possess. most times it's best to just avoid this fierce and noble creature of the great splinterwoods. lets leave it now to continue on in it's journey of life. Thank you for joining me on reciprocating Native Fantasy wild kingdom join us again next week when we unlock the secrets of the Jara jara bird until then good night.
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Post by wildagreenbough on May 3, 2014 19:52:18 GMT -9
I love what you're doing with the Splinterwood Elves Aaron. Everything about them says they're seriously annoyed with whoever it was who was daft enough to enter their forest and they have just the right touch of the feral quality about them. Their clothing is storybook Wood Elf (or at least the books I use to read as a child anyway), but with just the right amount of stylistic twist to knock the sugar out of it. By the way I like those curly vine bows and the arrows look positively nasty, but in a good way. Thanks for explaining the life-cycle of a green Splinterwood Dragon too.
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Post by aaron on May 4, 2014 5:55:28 GMT -9
LOL Thanks wildagreenbough hopefully when I'm done there will be enough models to have a complete campaign in splinterwood elves either for RPGs or WFB either way. The Friend with whom I am making these for said that I have started something with the splinterwood and now he's going to make a campaign out of it ... *sigh* he even said that when I am finished making good on my end of the bet he might commission me to do more something about Denizens of deepwood ... we shall see here is a wip of the SplinterWood Fauns that I am working on next they will be a huge part of the splinterwood elf community... apparently... I'm just doing what I'm told LOL ya I have to make 7 units for Brian (the winner of the bet)he's at a loss for the last unit so if you have any seggestions I'll pass them on. 1. Dragen check 2. Hero on a stag check 3. 16 archers ...5 done 11 more to go 4. 5 fauns ... started 5. 16 swordsmen /women 6. mounted elves (on what he still hasn't decided so if any of you have a preference toss it out there ) 7.? (he's still up in the air about this so if you have any good ideas I'll pass them on) and I am chalking this up to lifes lessons learned. (though admittedly I'm actually starting to have a good time with this )
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