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Post by sunraven01 on Jul 30, 2014 11:58:27 GMT -9
Like mproteau, I am a long-time WWG customer, but lately I've gone in a different direction, and that's modding TLX to make it a lot less labor intensive and magnet friendly. I took the TLX tiles, cut off the wrapper bits, glued Xyron magnet tape to the corners, and stuck them down on a 24" x 36" piece of sheet metal (edges wrapped in duct tape to keep me from klutzily cutting myself). Walls have to go up still, but I'm getting there. However, let me add my voice to mproteau and sing the praises of TLX. It's a fantastic system and NOTHING beats putting a 3D battle map down on the table and watching your players ooh and aah.
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Jul 30, 2014 12:06:14 GMT -9
Very nice, sunraven01! Please post more pics as you progress with this. I've stayed a pure paper builder myself, but I do love seeing things come together with magnets. It makes the builds look very clean. Do you also do this with Fat Dragon or Dave Graffam textures? I started making some TLX Dave Graffam tiles, and got sidetracked making FDG TLX tiles, which then got sidetracked making cutfiles for everything under the sun. A project I've just never been able to get off the ground is to make plugins for GIMP so I can quickly pull out a 6" tile from a non-TLX source and create TLX layers and anchors. It'd be less tedious for me to code, than it is for me to copy and paste the same rectangles of the screen over and over and over and over and over and over...
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Post by sunraven01 on Jul 30, 2014 12:29:33 GMT -9
I don't own any other paper craft except what I've purchased from WWG (and my paper minis from various sources). One of the things I really wanted to eliminate was the anchor and post system. The way the anchor arms never lie flat again just plain BUGS ME. This is actually my second iteration with magnets; my first is here: In this case, the walls and posts are pinned together, literally, using steel sewing pins. The floor tiles, mounted on foamboard, use tiny magnets and nails pushed into the sides of the tiles. What I ran in to was no way to feasibly make the walls stand up with just magnets. Frustrating, but there you go. With the map I posted previously, I'm going to borrow a note from another WWG forum user and use tiny cube magnets as "feet" for my walls. Hoping it works out, and I've only made anti-warp walls in order to keep everything squared up. I still cut the anchors out, but only the printed section, and I just glue them in place to cover the glue here white squares. What I really came to realize is that, for the most part, actual D&D play is not friendly to multi-story interior gaming, so what I need isn't the ability to make a whole building at once, but instead to be able to get each floor down on the table quickly and accurately as my players go through the building.
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Post by wisdomknight on Jul 30, 2014 13:02:54 GMT -9
Cool sunraven I always wanted to try magnets. I like the clean look of no anchors or terraclips. What Im going to do is just bobby pin my FDG walls toether and let them just sit on the TXL tiles (with no anchors). If I want a second level Ill just keep stacking and letting things set upon one another. I mean Im not playing with little children that are going to knock everything off of each all the time
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Post by sunraven01 on Jul 30, 2014 13:14:33 GMT -9
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Jul 30, 2014 15:42:57 GMT -9
I... didn't... save my work... Redoing the roofs from scratch.
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Post by wisdomknight on Jul 30, 2014 15:44:26 GMT -9
no way...
I learned the hard so many times. Still didn't learn 100% yet though.
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Jul 31, 2014 14:09:59 GMT -9
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Post by okumarts on Jul 31, 2014 15:01:56 GMT -9
I love TLX for sure. Part of what got me making my own terrain though was WWG drying up and focusing on video games. I still use my TLX almost every week for the past 8 years and it has held up so well. Lots of variety in the sets too. Don't forget the hidden gems that are not TLX such as the Pirate's Cove, Police Station, Marina, and the Platform Command Series. Great stuff!
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Post by okumarts on Jul 31, 2014 15:06:52 GMT -9
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Post by sunraven01 on Aug 1, 2014 2:26:47 GMT -9
I got out of DMing for a while, and so when I came back to the WWG boards and found Denny & Co were MIA, it was DEEPLY disappointing. Really poor business practices on his part, IMO. The upshot is that TLX templates are dead simple to make on your own.
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Post by sunraven01 on Aug 4, 2014 12:01:23 GMT -9
The board for this week (pre-walls, obviously). Honestly, this works out way better than traditional TLX tiles in my opinion, and it's easier to store. The Himmelveil Streets tiles, especially, are a huge time-saver because they don't have anchors that need to be glued on to cover the white boxes; I may decide it's worth it to 'shop all my tiles to remove the boxes. Just cut out the tile face, slap some magnet tape on the back, and you're good to go.
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Aug 4, 2014 12:26:57 GMT -9
Anything will beat TLX if you're looking to speed-mount tiles, if you leave off the walls... the second floor... the third floor... the roof... :-P
I'm just trying to convince myself to stay all paper, and not switch to magnets. But, magnets sure do look appealing.
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Post by sunraven01 on Aug 4, 2014 13:44:53 GMT -9
The walls are a wash, time wise, although you don't have to make posts, so there's that. I'm waiting for you to come up with a straight forward roof I can steal LOL!
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Aug 4, 2014 16:11:05 GMT -9
lol sunraven01 - you're welcome to steal anything I can come up with! I'm working as best as I can to make an all-paper, easy-to-build, more-modular-than-tlx roof system. However, if you're already into making foamcore walls, then foamcore trusses and roofs with magnets in them seems like a no-brainer. Honestly, when I start to think about it, I get goosebumps at the thought of all these super-sturdy, perfectly flat pieces that just "click" fall into place... *drool*
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Post by sunraven01 on Aug 5, 2014 2:17:33 GMT -9
Well, the foam board version is stalled for the moment. the tiles above are just photo paper and magnet tape.
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