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Post by cowboyleland on Oct 21, 2014 18:32:18 GMT -9
As a backer (one of the few, the proud, the strong?) I feel I should say why I wasn't put off by the 10K goal. That is that it doesn't have much to do with what I am "buying." I pledged $25 for a rule set and two armies that feature multiple pages of figures and vehicles. I think that is about what a similar bundle on OBS would cost. The fact that aaron wanted to sell 400 similar bundles in a month seems ambitious, but it did not change the cost of my package. So I pledged. It is none of my business, but what I would do at this point (ie if it does not fund by the deadline) is put it all up on OBS, offer it as single products and various bundles and keep releasing new stuff whenever you can, as new product makes new customers aware of the older products, at least that is what Dave Graffam says. The money would be a trickle, not a flood, but it might grow over time. And maybe, just maybe, people who try it tell their friends and it goes a little viral like Catan. (but not likely)
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Post by aaron on Oct 22, 2014 2:53:29 GMT -9
Thanks for Pledging Cowboy! and thanks to all those of you who did. in fact at this point most of you can jump on and pledge what ever you want we're so far away from making the goal that I think your safe LOL It may still fund though I have a few tricks left to get attention but I hate calling in old friends for business stuff (especially when you haven't talked to them in a while)
If I put it all on OBS at the market prices that are currently being used then the price for a single army would change significantly, each unit would cost anywhere from $2 to $5 dollars depending on the size and complexity of the unit (just based on art and number of models) and each base would be $12 to $15 depending on how big it is their are multiply structures in each base so it's like a large town set. The vehicles would be between $5 and $10 dollars so just looking at the free frontier it comes out to about $71 dollars. and that's just using the market values that are currently in place if I part them out on OBS. the core of humanity comes out slightly less than that only because the re-fueling station is a smaller base(it is more efficient and has less buildings ).It comes out somewhere around $56 dollars but in my kickstarter I'm selling both armies less the basses for $25 dollars because I want people to play. I think it's a good game and it's worth it, I know i'm not the only one, but hopefully their is enough to make it fly. if not then we explore new options.
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Post by Cardstock Dane on Oct 22, 2014 2:57:22 GMT -9
It may still fund though I have a few tricks left to get attention but I hate calling in old friends for business stuff (especially when you haven't talked to them in a while) Do it, man! Your network is invaluable! Use it, by all means!
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Post by cowboyleland on Oct 22, 2014 3:10:46 GMT -9
If it is a good game (and you believe it is) and your "old friends" are people who like to play good games, letting them know about the game (especially at the kickstarter cut rate prices)is actually doing them a favour.
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Post by Brave Adventures on Oct 22, 2014 3:28:45 GMT -9
I just upped my pledge to $100. Good luck!
Ryan
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Post by oldschooldm on Oct 22, 2014 7:04:43 GMT -9
... but above all I think you guys are awesome and I don't want you to think that I have taken any of this the wrong way especially you oldschooldm you put a lot of time into your posts and I want you properly thank you for that. You are most welcome. Best of luck.
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Post by wildagreenbough on Oct 23, 2014 0:42:53 GMT -9
Upped my pledge too. Put it on Faceplant too and said TO was better than 40K and you didn't need to mortgage your house just to put together a basic army either
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Post by aaron on Oct 23, 2014 2:28:26 GMT -9
Thanks Wild your awesome as always! I have a question for you though, do you really have a GIANT gollom from lord of the rings hanging from the cealing of your airport? if so that makes New Zeland one of the coolest places on earth!
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Post by wildagreenbough on Oct 23, 2014 4:10:38 GMT -9
Thanks Wild your awesome as always! I have a question for you though, do you really have a GIANT gollom from lord of the rings hanging from the cealing of your airport? if so that makes New Zeland one of the coolest places on earth! Yes at Wellington airport, - I haven't seen it myself though. Wellington is where Weta Workshop is. Gollum at Wellington airport.
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Post by aaron on Oct 23, 2014 4:28:05 GMT -9
it's official New Zeland one of the coolest places on earth!
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Post by Sirrob01 on Oct 25, 2014 19:29:12 GMT -9
...just lost a long post I wrote.....the condensed version: Thoughts from me wargamers like plastic models (lots of them when its a KS), board gamers more accepting (ie meeples, standees, wooden cubes, you name it it's in a boardgame or been used). If you can tap that second market I think you'll get a greater uptake. Boardgamers do hate assembly see what these guys did: premimum pre-cut and printed option. Might mean you need to retool your rules a little so it can maybe play out on 2x2 12inch square boards. Wouldn't stress about OBS prices you always offer an intro bundle for Rules +2 armies Good luck with whatever you decide (I really liked the video on the KS as well), on a personal note do offer them somewhere I was really looking forward to a few more sci-fi army options edit: sorry to clarify wargamers I meant miniature wargamers, there are what i'd call boardgame/wargamers different group entirely
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Post by aaron on Nov 3, 2014 5:04:00 GMT -9
ok I have been running silent for a week or so now. I have been working really hard on re-tooling everything.
so by now it's more than a little obvious that the kickstarter isn't going to fund. Like I said in an earlier post I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand I am sad that I don't have tons of cash but on the other I got to have the big I told you so moment.
I'm not going to go into a big lament about why my kickstarter failed I think we covered all that in detail however, I did do some things right apparently because it got the attention of some very interesting people. I am not at liberty to say more at this time but I was more that a little surprised that I was contacted by them, and when I found out who they were I was expecting the conversation to go in a totally different way that it did.
So with all that cryptic hinting out of the way I will be re-tooling not only my Kickstarter but parts of my game as well and then I will re-launch and hope the fireworks go off! and no spoiling the surprise @arcticdragongames nothing is in contracts yet so I don't want to say anything and then look more stupid than usual LOL
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Post by Cardstock Dane on Nov 3, 2014 5:37:44 GMT -9
That sounds great! I hope it will all work out for the best, and I can't wait to hear where this exciting and mysterious contact will take your project. You sure know how to drop a cliffhanger.
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Post by oldschooldm on Nov 3, 2014 6:41:44 GMT -9
I'm not going to go into a big lament about why my kickstarter failed I think we covered all that in detail however, I did do some things right apparently because it got the attention of some very interesting people. I am not at liberty to say more at this time but I was more that a little surprised that I was contacted by them, and when I found out who they were I was expecting the conversation to go in a totally different way that it did. Something that could be described in words like yours happened to a friend's failed kickstarter (for a graphic novel he'd been working on for years.) The interested party was a publisher, who is now producing it as a comic book serial. Let's hope something like that happened for you, aaron!
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Post by aaron on Nov 3, 2014 10:54:51 GMT -9
thanks ! I am more than a little excited for the future of Temporum Oblitus and Pigmi Games in general. So in that aspect I think the Kickstarter was completely successful! it's just to bad I didn't become independently wealthy on top of it all but hey I'll take what I can get LOL
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 3, 2014 11:11:01 GMT -9
ok I have been running silent for a week or so now. I have been working really hard on re-tooling everything. so by now it's more than a little obvious that the kickstarter isn't going to fund. Like I said in an earlier post I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand I am sad that I don't have tons of cash but on the other I got to have the big I told you so moment. I'm not going to go into a big lament about why my kickstarter failed I think we covered all that in detail however, I did do some things right apparently because it got the attention of some very interesting people. I am not at liberty to say more at this time but I was more that a little surprised that I was contacted by them, and when I found out who they were I was expecting the conversation to go in a totally different way that it did. So with all that cryptic hinting out of the way I will be re-tooling not only my Kickstarter but parts of my game as well and then I will re-launch and hope the fireworks go off! and no spoiling the surprise @arcticdragongames nothing is in contracts yet so I don't want to say anything and then look more stupid than usual LOL I'm glad to hear that positive elements have emerged from this Kickstarter for you. So if nothing else this Kickstarter has served to introduce a wider audience to your abilities and potentially increase your fan base. We here at the CWF already knew what you capable of. IMHO you should let go of the "I told you so's" Negativity is just unnecessary baggage, success is a better revenge. At least that's what I've told my wife as we both quit out of extremely toxic work environments and were told that we wouldn't succeed without them. In both of our cases we never looked back and didn't waste any energy on them. Those companies have both faded away without us and I am grimly satisfied by that result. Now go be successful.
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Post by arcticdragongames on Nov 3, 2014 12:33:47 GMT -9
Good games are fun to play but great games have turnaround mechanisms. Good KS get funded but great KS can turn around a game and even a company. I think you will be able to look back on this KS as a watershed event that turned around both your game and your company.
To rephrase what Eric said "better to light a candle than to curse the darkness."
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Post by Brave Adventures on Nov 3, 2014 15:25:54 GMT -9
Well, if you do another Kickstarter, I'll certainly back you again. Good luck!
Ryan
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Post by Sirrob01 on Nov 4, 2014 1:17:51 GMT -9
Well, if you do another Kickstarter, I'll certainly back you again. Good luck! Ryan +1 And in whatever form
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