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Post by Sirrob01 on Dec 2, 2014 1:55:12 GMT -9
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Post by eran on Dec 2, 2014 3:40:37 GMT -9
The paperclip on the stands is rather clever. Nice job!
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Post by pavaro on Dec 2, 2014 8:12:52 GMT -9
In the plans some aircrafts from World War I?
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Post by mahotsukai on Dec 2, 2014 9:32:14 GMT -9
These are great.
Are you concentrating on the war in Europe, or will there be Mediterranean and Pacific theatre aircraft?
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 2, 2014 9:51:03 GMT -9
These little guys look to be about the right size for the boardgame 'Dogfight' from my much younger years. It was WWI, but if I am remembering correctly, I don't think there was anything that was specifically for Sopwith Camels and DR7's. I'll have to see if I can find it in the attic
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Post by eran on Dec 2, 2014 11:27:33 GMT -9
I used to play Dogfight at school with my art teacher! I loved that game!
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Post by Sirrob01 on Dec 2, 2014 12:02:53 GMT -9
Definitely will be other aircraft and theaters as well as alternate color scheme's. Picked the Battle of Britain as a starting point as it really only had 4 main fighters participate so it lets myself and friends game some in that theater while I design/build other aircraft for different scenarios My next 2 will likely be the mustang and zero, unless I solve the strength issue around gullwings then it'll be the corsair WW1 definitely will try and do some I have a design which works for biplanes (even the fixed undercarriages) but at the moment I have about 12 WW2 aircraft I'd like to finish up. I have some rough idea's for jets as well. Hopefully I'll have these 4 available for download tonight my time.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 2, 2014 13:31:39 GMT -9
Is there a specific game that you are doing these for?
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Post by Sirrob01 on Dec 2, 2014 21:11:12 GMT -9
For myself Wings of War or Glory but also to try out these that i saw while moving rules across ont he free wargames archive: Pz8 aerial rules thunderbolt and lightning That and I just like planes, ww2 and the 1930's racing planes being my favorite periods although I have a soft spot for biplanes as well
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Post by wyvern on Dec 3, 2014 4:46:01 GMT -9
Additional colour schemes would be most welcome - also alternate markings (often quite simple extras - e.g. for the RAF Czech and Polish squadrons). Any plans for some bombers too? The Hurricane was used preferentially for attacking bomber formations, when possible, during the Battle of Britain, for instance. Appreciate that if you're struggling with gull-wings though, the Stuka may be difficult... There are other possible fighters for this period and theatre as well - including biplanes like the Gloster Gladiator and the Italian CR42. Of course, you should know by now we can keep adding requests for more until doomsday
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 3, 2014 5:39:37 GMT -9
That and I just like planes, ww2 and the 1930's racing planes being my favorite periods although I have a soft spot for biplanes as well If you are a plane fan, I do hope you picked up your three free models from Fiddlers Green and have had a go at some of Zio Prudenziati's models. If you like racers, Dave Winfield of Koolwheelz fame, put out a bunch of racers to raise funds to go to the International Paper Modelers Convention. Very nice, but I don't have the patience to do his more serious models
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Post by Parduz on Dec 3, 2014 5:39:41 GMT -9
mh..... fiddly, now that i look at the PDFs.... Sirrob01, may i ask why, for the .... tail little wings (dunno what's the right name) you don't use the same "slot technique" you have in the BF-110 engines? And what's the purpose of the tiny piece that have to be glued under the wings? (i mean the one that "copy" the wheel pattern)
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Post by eran on Dec 3, 2014 5:43:54 GMT -9
Parduz, they are called horizontal stabilizers. The elevators are on them, much as the ailerons are on the wings.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 3, 2014 5:45:12 GMT -9
Parduz, it looks to me like the extra wheel pattern pieces are designed to 'grip' the stand.
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Post by Sirrob01 on Dec 3, 2014 11:37:41 GMT -9
mh..... fiddly, now that i look at the PDFs.... Sirrob01, may i ask why, for the .... tail little wings (dunno what's the right name) you don't use the same "slot technique" you have in the BF-110 engines? And what's the purpose of the tiny piece that have to be glued under the wings? (i mean the one that "copy" the wheel pattern) Unfortunately it didn't work for most planes, once the slots were cut in the rear of the fuse, the (top)tails were prone to breaking off as most of the ww2 planes have there stabs mounted a long ways forward. I also tried a design with them slotting from the front couple of them then fouled on the bodywork when trying to push them in and I'd end up damaging the top tail or the horizontal stab. Basically at that size the parts are to small for slotting (tried a 50/50 slot as well). That particular issue was one of the main reasons the designs been sitting on my hard drive for nearly 12 months and edge gluing with superglue turned out to be the best of a rather bad lot of options yep the extra underbelly bits let you slip them on and off the stands, if you glue them on permanently just leave them out
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Post by Sirrob01 on Dec 3, 2014 11:55:57 GMT -9
Saying all that I'm open to suggestions on the tail stabs here's what I tried : Slotted body - Top tails distort and tend to rip off Slotted tail/ slotted body - very difficult to cut slots in tail without ending up with 2 pieces, sliding them together so they sit horizontal without damage is also difficult. Pass through white bar - small slot in body and pass a tongue of plain card through glue tail stab to this - unbelievably fiddly to assemble Tail stabs two halfs with glue tabs - Fiddly and pretty ugly due to card thickness of glue tabs, seemed to provide little strength advantage over just edge gluing with super glue.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 3, 2014 14:06:31 GMT -9
Since you are asking...
I was reminded of the old, old, old Canon kids airport and the just as old Osaka airport for kids. Now they weren't 2.5D, but I think that their method would work. Bottom of horizontal stabilizer folds out from the back end of the fuselage. Tail is a fold over with glue tabs that are basically the top of the stabilizer. Not sure if it would work on these planes, but it's an idea.
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Post by cowboyleland on Dec 3, 2014 18:58:31 GMT -9
Could this work? Glued to a bit of a rudder stub, if you know what I mean?
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 3, 2014 19:30:41 GMT -9
That is what I was referring to. People sometimes joke about some of the 'kids' models that I do, but sometimes one can learn something from them
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Post by Sirrob01 on Dec 3, 2014 21:50:55 GMT -9
looks promising I'll give it a try on the P-51, looks similar to what I ended up with on the Bf110
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Post by Sirrob01 on Dec 4, 2014 11:09:49 GMT -9
Started work on the hurricane file as a test for the new tail looking good so far, should finalize the test build tonight. If it works out hope to have a less fiddly V2 of the Hurricane, Spitfire and Bf109 done and uploaded by Sunday
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Post by Sirrob01 on Dec 7, 2014 11:49:57 GMT -9
Sorry slight delay, the new tail design worked but as the Hurricane (and BF109) horizontal stabs are not as wide as the tail you end up with a small segment of edge to edge joining at the front and rear of the tail to the body. So I'm going to do a new version with the tail and body sides slightly mismatched so that the tail overlaps the opposite body side a little but dosen't make a bumpy bit on the body(basically integrated tabs). This should help with alignment but will also make the vertical tail grab the main body instead of just being fixed on via the horizontal stabilizer. Not sure the above will make much sense without a picy so I'll post one once I've got the new new version ready (file version 5 but about build version 7-8)
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Post by Sirrob01 on Dec 19, 2014 11:15:19 GMT -9
Sorry for the slowness, these are on hold while I finish my wifes Xmas gift
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