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Post by rattokan on Jan 21, 2015 12:32:13 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 21, 2015 13:24:27 GMT -9
I'm not from Germany, but your 'con' on the second type of paper makes me think you are using a laser printer. Is that correct?
Either way, you may want to give a light dusting of clear satin or matte to your models before building. This keeps flaking and scratching to a minimum
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Post by rattokan on Jan 21, 2015 13:55:10 GMT -9
I'm not from Germany, but your 'con' on the second type of paper makes me think you are using a laser printer. Is that correct? nope, inkjet When you scratch over that paper with your fingernail it is like the coating comes of as a chalk-ish dust :/ I tried to spray it with some varnish that the mrs uses for paintings but seems to make the colors look much less vibrant. but it does indeed help a bit. As the third one has an equally clean image, is way more expensive and doesnt have that problem at all, I guess it is the papers fault
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Post by flockofthese on Jan 23, 2015 19:46:55 GMT -9
I'm not from Germany, but your 'con' on the second type of paper makes me think you are using a laser printer. Is that correct? nope, inkjet When you scratch over that paper with your fingernail it is like the coating comes of as a chalk-ish dust :/ I tried to spray it with some varnish that the mrs uses for paintings but seems to make the colors look much less vibrant. but it does indeed help a bit. As the third one has an equally clean image, is way more expensive and doesnt have that problem at all, I guess it is the papers fault The problem there is probably the varnish. I had the same thing with Mod Podge spray acrylic sealer. I figured since it was meant for paper type crafts it would be perfect. It was a disappointment. I have not had any problem with Rust-Oleum or Krylon gloss clear coats. I don't know what sort of brands you have over there, so I cant tell you exactly what to get. I would skip the artsy type sealers, and look by the manly-man spray paints for a good sealer though. Generally a quick spray is good enough for my purposes, but if its an ink issue you need to fix then I don't know. It may need multiple coats. A quick spray doesn't give any gloss, but a few coats might. If you don't want gloss, then you can try a coat of matte overtop, but I have never actually tried that with paper. With miniatures, you usually get them good with clear coat, and then matte finish over top because the matte isn't as effective at protection as the gloss.
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Post by cherno on Jan 24, 2015 10:03:56 GMT -9
I commonly order some cheap matte photo paper on ebay I think 50 sheets are below 10 EUR or something. At that price, it doesn't hurt to just buy a few different types and see what's the best for you and your printer. Lately, I went to Saturn or MM and bought semi-gloss photo paper, more expensive, but I like the print quality and colours much more. In the end, I think you just have to try out different paper styles. Oh and yes, weights were all around 200 gsm.
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Post by shep on Jan 24, 2015 10:26:44 GMT -9
Have you ever tried rearranging the part of your models onto a format that would be printable by a photo printer box in drug store near you? I printed loads of minis this way and there was never any real trouble. Colours are sometimes a bit dark, though, so you should lighten up your model parts a little bit... Hier nochmal auf Deutsch: Ich hab gute Erfahrungen damit gemacht, die Teile von Modellen und Minis auf Formate wie 10 x 15 oder 15 x 20 zu ziehen und dann im dm oder bei Müller mit den Fotodruckern auszudrucken. Die Qualität ist sehr gut. Natürlich kann man die Drucke mit genügend Kraft zerkratzen, aber das geht bei allen Ausdrucken. Meine Modelle und Minis sehen alle super aus, ohne Kratzer und mit richtig guten Farben. Diese sind manchmal im Druck etwas dunkel, sa dass ein vorheriges Aufhellen empfehelenswert ist. Und bei einem Preis von ca. 50 ct. pro großem Druck (15 x 20) geht das Ganze finanziell sogar. Alternativ könnte man natürlich auch einen guten Fotodrucker und Fotopapier anschaffen...
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Post by niksantsurvivedendor on Jan 26, 2015 8:34:04 GMT -9
Ich finde normales 200g papier fast angenehmer weil das schön matt ist...
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Post by shep on Jan 26, 2015 10:22:52 GMT -9
Wenn man einen hat, dann lässt sich auch das durch einen guten Fotodrucker (z.B. von Epson) jagen...
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Post by rattokan on Jan 26, 2015 13:21:36 GMT -9
I definitely do not want to use cardstock or "normal paper" anymore. The images are just not clean and crisp like with photopaper. Espescially stuff like detailed minis or stuff from worldworksgames. I think i am gonna try spraycoating the photopaper with something else like polyurethane varnish.
and... EPSON? never again. This company has lost all credit with me, not letting me SCAN anymore when the ink is empty
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