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Post by lightning on Jan 28, 2016 1:31:22 GMT -9
The iron version looks really great but will be a lot of fun to cut without automated cutting. For my Asian Temple I had a similar problem which I solved with a "full" wall and filled the in between space with texture from the wall behind simulating the look through the railing bars. But I am not sure that would work here.
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Post by berneart76 on Jan 28, 2016 2:41:43 GMT -9
Found some Tudor architectural details that I figured would work well as a railing.... Took a bit to get the color to match, but think it looks pretty good...
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Post by berneart76 on Jan 28, 2016 3:29:25 GMT -9
Also been working on some Interior paneling designs.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 28, 2016 4:52:45 GMT -9
This is really coming along. I personally like the iron railing. Have it as an option to be printed on transparency. That's what Ray Keim at Haunted Dimensions does. Many of the lighthouse models out there also have windows and railings to be printed on transparency, as an option.
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Post by berneart76 on Jan 29, 2016 12:33:08 GMT -9
Minor setbacks... realized i'd forgotten chimneys, so had to go back and do re-examine the interior floorplan, came up with 2 solutions I like, and allow for fireplaces/chimneys to be shared through multiple floors, but now I need to rework the wide, single peak dormer due to chimney locations....... Shouldn't be too difficult, just need to narrow it a bit to allow room for the chimneys to extend through the roof, so I should be able to modify the existing patterns/textures I have easily enough... Anyways, here's option one for the ground floor floor plan, where the central tower extends from the floor all the way up, carrying a central staircase... The front of the building is at the bottom of the picture. Shaded areas show where balconies on the second floor overhang the first floor. Grey cobblestone areas are outside, covered by the arched verandas. Back tower interiors can only be accessed by the upper veranda balconies!
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 29, 2016 14:10:26 GMT -9
It sometimes stinks to get old. The other night when I saw the iron railings were going away, I got distracted, and forgot to mention that whether you run the tower all the way to the ground or not, you could do a fantastic spiral staircase there.
And Voila! There it is. I really like the way this is coming together.
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Post by berneart76 on Jan 29, 2016 16:50:12 GMT -9
The iron railing isn't going away Vermin King, I just wanted an alternate, less fiddly option... I think I'm going to try to work in cutout windows and doors as well, with inserts that can go between the inner and outer walls. which mproteau (Paper Realms) has mentioned that some builders like. so you will be able to print them as part of the model, or print them and cut them out and glue in between the layers. The alternate version is a large, open main floor, with a wide staircase near the back leading to a balcony halfway up the main floor height, then stairs on each side continuing up to the second level. Floorplan here: with the white 3D concept here: and here's the wireframe concept for the central tower main floor: working out some details on just how involved i want to get with the interiors.. I figure simple/open... with the walls layed out on the floor plan, and a simple type of support for the balconies to provide maximum interior room for playability..
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 29, 2016 18:12:03 GMT -9
I know you like to do many options, but I would suggest doing additional versions instead. Like a stone version and a tudor version. It would also be interesting to see which would have the most sales and how many would buy one of each. This next comment may be taken wrong, but Dave Graffam is very good at managing his product line, and there are models that share architecture and elements.
Many consumers want to get a product that builds itself when they open the file. Since that isn't available, they want it as easy to build as it can be, while still looking good. At the same time they want to be able to make their build personal, so including options is good, just not a whole lot of them. So have some of the options available on one version, and different options on the other. Considering how large this will be and distinctive, I think it would be possible to have two of these on the same table and have them enough different that people won't know it's the same model.
Of course I don't speak for everyone, but I don't think I am too far from the norm.
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Post by lightning on Jan 30, 2016 0:11:14 GMT -9
I love both. The easy and fast to build modular things to fill up a gaming table within an hour or so. And also the detailed, elaborate models that might take more time to build but give so much more satisfaction. I guess there might not be as many buyers for the second but in parts this could and should be balanced by a higher price.
Btw I love the Tudor railing version.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 30, 2016 1:27:35 GMT -9
I'm not saying that both versions shouldn't be offered, but to me it seems like this could really be two models. With the variations available for the stone building, the consumer will be very pleased. Likewise there are enough variations in the tudor textures to be a very satisfactory purchase. If this were done as one model, with all the options, it would be a lot of decisions to make for the buyer, and you limit yourself to one sale.
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Post by berneart76 on Jan 30, 2016 2:47:34 GMT -9
I was already thinking of releasing this as 2 different versions, the stone version with the tower going all the way through, and the Tudor version where the tower is built in from the attic up. But while I'm working on patterns for chimneys and such, it helps to have the floorplans for both versions worked out in advance.
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