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Post by mesper on Oct 26, 2015 14:10:32 GMT -9
Or rather something like this, with caparison and bridle: (of course with horns, beard, tail and hooves:)
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 26, 2015 15:21:53 GMT -9
I was thinking something more like this, but I am not good at texturing I just threw that together, but looking at it, it needs to be wider across the back, but it doesn't look too bad
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Oct 26, 2015 15:31:40 GMT -9
You guys are doing great - this is coming along fantastically!
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Post by mesper on Oct 26, 2015 15:39:03 GMT -9
I was thinking something more like this, but I am not good at texturing That harness looks pretty good, could be done! But... you mean RAM or GOAT?
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 26, 2015 16:16:59 GMT -9
I generally think of Rams as either male Goats or Sheep. 'Battle Ram Driven Chariot' sounds a lot more cool than 'Goat Driven Chariot'. That's why I've been referring to the goat as a ram.
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 28, 2015 10:24:07 GMT -9
I suppose they could be 'Wilhelm' goats...
Is anyone going to do a chariot driver? I think I could do a harness for the goats. On my build, I made a spacer for between the goats that the chariot tongue sits on. I should probably put that in the file.
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Post by mesper on Oct 28, 2015 10:44:05 GMT -9
I suppose they could be 'Wilhelm' goats... "Wilhelm" Is anyone going to do a chariot driver? I'm working on goat's harness - then later (not promising though!) will consider some special dwarven chariot driver
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 28, 2015 11:02:48 GMT -9
Cool.
Wilhelm is the German form of William, which can be shortened to Billy, like a billy goat
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Post by mesper on Oct 28, 2015 12:08:38 GMT -9
Meaning buck? / Oxford Dictionaries definition of billy goat in English: noun, a male goat. Still ram is a ram and goat = goat... OK, forget it;)
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Post by afet on Oct 29, 2015 12:35:59 GMT -9
Lol! These are awesome!!!
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 30, 2015 16:03:52 GMT -9
Hmmm, tried three times before it let me upload. Kept giving me an Invalid File Type message. This is where I am at. Goats now have chest plates from Mesper and a rather plain harness. The little piece is the spacer I used between the goats to rest the chariot tongue on. I glued it to the front legs at a height I thought was 'about right' If we had a driver, this would be ready for the horde
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Oct 30, 2015 17:00:04 GMT -9
Want some help with layout (to simplify cutting and assembling, and to make cutfiles)? That image doesn't appear to be 300dpi... Not sure if I could get right onto helping out, but certainly I would do what I could.
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 30, 2015 17:39:03 GMT -9
It should all have been done at 300dpi. Hey, any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Post by mesper on Oct 31, 2015 2:23:09 GMT -9
Big/extended harness - test version based on Vermin King simplified one. Some details like stitches are too small, so almost invincible invisible after rescaling... The "central" or "internal" part of harness could be added as modding element with various colours - so could be changed according to dwarven driver clan colours (ie. cape, shield, banner colours). Then not sure but I think that gold/bronze metal parts / buckles might look better (or at least more "dwarvish" style)? (BTW got some idea for chariot driver, will post some preliminary version later perhaps)
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Post by mesper on Oct 31, 2015 14:27:52 GMT -9
Very first attempt... Dwarven chariot driver - Master Chief, Champion or just trumpeter? Despite some obvious sketch issues/errors - IMHO too much details here (in comparison with Chariot and Goat), then to maintain art-style still some more details are needed here and there... So I'm considering kinda shortcut solution, which is covering torso with a shield - as a bonus it would be definitely easier and faster to colour/texturise:)
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Post by mesper on Nov 4, 2015 14:53:07 GMT -9
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Post by mesper on Nov 9, 2015 15:29:51 GMT -9
Goat with harness (please note new/changed textures - now more detailed - better?) Preview: Download 300dpi layered (goat/rock/background) TIFF file: Goat with Harness AB - v2 - layered TIFFWould you like some more versions of harness (including some colour mods)?
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Post by mesper on Nov 13, 2015 5:10:34 GMT -9
Still working on this one, however due to time restrictions colouring/texturing part is still waiting in the queue...
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Post by cowboyleland on Nov 13, 2015 5:31:41 GMT -9
Shouldn't the "driver" be holding reigns?
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Post by mesper on Nov 13, 2015 5:36:58 GMT -9
Shouldn't the "driver" be holding reigns? Nope, not in this case - cause stead (ram / goat) is standing still, so the "driver" (no need to hold reigns) Then reigns could be in his left palm, which is not visible hidden behind the shield?
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Post by mesper on Nov 13, 2015 17:17:10 GMT -9
Well, there are some obvious mistakes visible: like lack of B-side thumb, then exactly the same A-B tunic borderings and folds (still some small/not important details are OK, vide runic signs on tunic border:) Then actually I think that boots might remain the same for both A and B side (OK, with some minor straps variations perhaps) Additionally some slight changes/additions could be made in order to distinguish A-B sides (like some small helmet and horn changes?) OMG... France!!!
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Post by mesper on Nov 15, 2015 13:12:14 GMT -9
Just another one...
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 15, 2015 23:41:04 GMT -9
I like him better with the axe and no shield.
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Post by mesper on Dec 2, 2015 18:09:32 GMT -9
Step by step (so slooowly:)... Basic A-B sides done (still some more shadow/light/texture details should be added here and there) However not convinced yet: with or without a shield (so just to prove that laziness is not the major factor / at least in this particular case/ you can see coloured and textured figurine behind the shield's "placeholder"
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 2, 2015 18:31:42 GMT -9
Totally not a historical comment, but in movies (which are always full of inaccuracies), and in History Channel programs (only slightly more factual) in a chariot, you may see a rider with a shield slung across his back, but I don't remember seeing a rider with a shield on his arm. Generally in those shows, you don't see a shield at all.
That's not to say that real chariot riders didn't carry a shield.
Just a comment, right or wrong
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Post by mesper on Dec 2, 2015 19:36:26 GMT -9
<...> you may see a rider with a shield slung across his back, but I don't remember seeing a rider with a shield on his arm <...> Err... something like this perhaps? (just a quick mock-up:)
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Post by mesper on Dec 2, 2015 19:44:22 GMT -9
Arghh... - this shield-belt is totally wrong (not realistic at all! ... anyway I like "shield across back" idea
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Post by mesper on Dec 9, 2015 15:45:09 GMT -9
A-B version with thick black contour and TAB: Now, thing is I'm not sure regarding the scale... ...
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 24, 2019 16:40:36 GMT -9
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Post by mesper on Nov 25, 2019 11:37:57 GMT -9
Oh, almost forgot about this one... Thanks a lot to everyone who took part in this small project - it turned out quite cool!
Hope you enjoy it Mesper /PERMES
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