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Post by spaceranger42 on Oct 6, 2016 12:00:49 GMT -9
Has anyone seen rules to scale up SFB hex battles to use larger miniatures? Or know of a repository of card stock model ships that could be used to do so? I would imagine making a larger hex map would work just fine and scaling the ship dimensions proportionately.
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Post by squirmydad on Oct 6, 2016 12:25:39 GMT -9
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Post by alloydog on Oct 6, 2016 23:18:14 GMT -9
I had a flirt with the SFB Cadet Training Handbook edition (a freebie): Since all movement and scales is hexed based and only a single ship can occupy each hex, then if your models/counters fit comfortably in each hex (no overhang and not too much space to the edges), then I would say anything goes. In fact a quick Google for Star fleet battles minitures, it seems even large models on small hexes is common.
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Post by shep on Oct 6, 2016 23:43:07 GMT -9
Basically the minis for SFB were always too big for the 1" hex maps supposed to be used. I recently took a different approach. Since it seems that Starfleet ships tend to get bigger and bigger, I made me a hex map with an enlarged grid big enough to fit my minis with big bases (Starbase, Galaxy Class) in one hex. My smaller ships are 1"-based. You can find my Galaxy Class on page 17 of Okumarts' "Where No Man Has Gone Before" thread (Link: cardboard-warriors.proboards.com/thread/1873/where-man-before?page=17 ). Concerning the rules, I use the same principle as described by alloydog, even though I don't play SFB (anymore).
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Post by alloydog on Oct 7, 2016 6:28:41 GMT -9
I didn't really get into SFB, as I had no one to play with. But just recently, I dug out my starship models and used the rules "Chronicles of Blood" for a quick skirmish. They work quite well, with a few minor tweaks to allow for the fact you're using ships and no groups of soldiers. I call it "Chronicles of... Vacuum"
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Post by shep on Oct 7, 2016 7:20:30 GMT -9
Nice idea. However, when playing on the floor, be sure to put everything back into your storage box or the game might quickly turn into "Chronicles of the Vacuum Cleaner"β¦ With my old Star Trek gaming group, I'll be using a homebrewn variation of the space combat rules given in Far Trek. For some battles within the RPG that ought to do. However, if I were to make a hobby of playing ST space skirmishes, I think I'd invest at least into the starter box and a few other ships of Attack Wing. The game uses FFG's Flight Path rules, the same mechanics as X-Wing Miniatures, which I'm quite used toβ¦
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Post by alloydog on Oct 7, 2016 9:27:06 GMT -9
Nice idea. However, when playing on the floor, be sure to put everything back into your storage box or the game might quickly turn into "Chronicles of the Vacuum Cleaner"β¦ Eeeerm, I know it's got dents, but that's the dining room table!
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Post by shep on Oct 7, 2016 14:49:35 GMT -9
I wasn't assuming you played on the floor. I mean in general, if you'd use a huge map too big for any table... you get the idea.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Oct 7, 2016 15:19:25 GMT -9
I will be needing some Star Trek-ish ship rules here soon, with the added layer of creating newer, more powerful ships for my wife's homebrew faction.
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Post by shep on Oct 8, 2016 2:33:20 GMT -9
I could translate my homebrewn Starship Combat Simulator for Far Trek into English and post the PDF here. The rules are quite easy, using 3d6 to resolve dice rolls. It would also give you a selection of ships from all eras (from Enterprise to late TNG) as well as simple rules to create ships of your own... However, it'll take some time to translate, let's say a month? (I'm quite busy at the moment.) Would that suffice?
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Oct 8, 2016 15:30:05 GMT -9
That would be wonderful! Thank you so much!
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Post by alloydog on Oct 8, 2016 21:22:41 GMT -9
A few years back, I made the models in the photos I posted. They weren't very well planned if I had in mind others to build. Having just recently dug them out and started playing again, I thought I would tidy up the files. If anyone is interested, I have attached the files for the Heavy Cruiser, a.k.a Constitution Class from ST:TOS: Heavy Cruiser Sheet I - Ships.pdf has pieces for four ships, with the markings for the Enterprise included for one ship. Heavy Cruiser Sheet II - Names and numbers.pdf has the hull and nacelle pieces with the names and numbers for other ships from the original series. Heavy Cruiser 1.5000th scale (simple).pdf has five ships per page which are much simpler to build - no raising of the hulls, inboard detail of the nacelles and so on. Since I'm still off work for the next week, I hope to get the Destroyer, Scout and Tug models tidied up as well. With a fair wind and following sea, I may even get the Klingon ship done as well.
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Post by shep on Oct 8, 2016 23:01:43 GMT -9
Nice, and quite easy to build, once you understand how the mini works. However, I'll stick with the 2.5D approach I used for the ships I posted in okumarts thread "Where No Man Has Gone Before", into the August hoard, and for this year's Papercuts. You just need a side elevation and a dorsal/ventral view, and especially with Star Trek there's plenty of those on the internet. Since there is no chance to sell the final minis, and I can only use them for personal games or to share with you guys, I have no problem using the art of others for these little projects... Btw. I have four more ships almost ready to upload... ^^
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Post by okumarts on Oct 11, 2016 7:44:39 GMT -9
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Post by alloydog on Oct 11, 2016 8:50:29 GMT -9
Any chance of a preview image? You need to sign up to dropbox to get to the zip file to see them
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Post by okumarts on Oct 11, 2016 9:36:16 GMT -9
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