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Post by berneart76 on Oct 23, 2016 17:18:38 GMT -9
So, as an offshoot of my small house project i started doing some additional research, and discovered that the "cruck" building style is fairly common around the world, as are pfalbau or stilt houses. The frame construction is similar from Nordic to Alpine to South pacific and Asian locations, other than building materials for the wall spaces between the frames and decorative details.
With this new information I started working on some simpler designs to experiment with a variety of "regional" texturing that I am planning to offer as simpler, no interior models as a teaser to gauge interest. If I get a good enough response, I'll work on more complete, full interior designs as well.
These are the concept designs, that I had hoped to already be working on texturing, but for now will be working on the unfolding. they are simpler buildings without chimneys, just a a covered smoke hole opening in the middle of the roof.
So here is the most complex one, a taller version with covered porches the long sides, and covered entranceways on the short sides. This shows both a steep and a shallow entranceway roof. This version will measure around 2 3/4" wide by 4" deep, and around 4" tall. the ground tile/base measures in at around 4 1/2" wide by 6 3/8" long. ( for those interested, the dimensions line up well for typical dimensions of cruck type houses of around 15-18 feet by 25 feet with a main floor roof height of 9-12 feet)
This shows the tall cruck house with just a covered porch on one long side, and a short version with two different roof styles. the base house dimensions are the same, 2 3/4" by 4", the short version measures around 3 1/8" tall.
And these are some textures that I've been working on, 2 different styles of woven mats ( for use as walls) and a palm roof for use as wall coverings on Asiatic/Pacific styles
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Post by cowboyleland on Oct 24, 2016 5:12:07 GMT -9
Looks good. Keep on tinkering, Tom.
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Post by cowboycentaur on Oct 24, 2016 11:19:34 GMT -9
Very nice Tom! Can't wait to see more progress!
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Post by berneart76 on Oct 26, 2016 14:38:56 GMT -9
Been working on the "Tropical" version of the Cruck House. The roofline and wall patterning is influenced by Thai, Indonesian, and fantasy depictions of tropical zones. Also started working on the texturing as well, and have the short walls pretty much worked out, now onto the long walls and roof texturing. "Tropical" version of the Cruck house, showing some changes to the roof line influenced by Thai and Indonesian concepts, and the layout pattern for the bamboo framing on the short walls. Short wall texturing for the "Tropical" version, whit the bamboo framing, and woven mats for walls. the mats overlaying the bamboo framing are outer walls, fixed to the bamboo, the ones behind are inner mats/screens that can would be able to be raised/removed for airflow in tropical climates.
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 26, 2016 14:42:09 GMT -9
Inspiring work there. Although, the Alpine version would be more useful to me, at this point
Why don't we do more tropical stuff? Maybe if we had a Hoard for it
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Post by berneart76 on Oct 26, 2016 14:53:43 GMT -9
Inspiring work there. Although, the Alpine version would be more useful to me, at this point Why don't we do more tropical stuff? Maybe if we had a Hoard for it The Alpine version will be coming along a quickly as well, I started with the texturing for the Tropical version because I needed to get the textures developed for it, as I didn't have those types of textures in my library yet. As for why there isn't more tropical stuff, or Asiatic stuff like lightning is doing now is that the Fantasy RPG/Tabletop environment has been sort of dominated by American/European influences and authors. I started the tropical influences with this project based the similarities I started seeing in construction details for stilt houses in different cultures, and inspired by lightning 's "Asian Series". It is all part of my internalized plan to offer a broader range of models.
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 26, 2016 15:15:41 GMT -9
I always thought the Opium Wars Period would be a great setting for an RPG. A mix of Western and Oriental that would just make for an amazing mish-mash
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Post by berneart76 on Oct 26, 2016 15:25:39 GMT -9
I always thought the Opium Wars Period would be a great setting for an RPG. A mix of Western and Oriental that would just make for an amazing mish-mash Opium Wars would work well for a Steampunk setting as well.
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Post by berneart76 on Oct 26, 2016 18:08:21 GMT -9
And some work samples for texturing on the European influenced versions, one with board walls, and one with plastered walls:
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Post by chiefasaur on Oct 26, 2016 19:24:19 GMT -9
I dig the plaster, makes the wood-frame "pop" a bit more.
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Post by berneart76 on Oct 27, 2016 13:50:19 GMT -9
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Post by chiefasaur on Oct 27, 2016 14:06:42 GMT -9
That house looks great! A pretty unique design as far as table-top scenery goes, but I can envision it being just as useful in a fantasy swamp adventure or WWII era island-hopping scenario. Also, I have no idea how to design paper buildings, so this kinda thing always impresses me.
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Post by berneart76 on Oct 27, 2016 14:20:32 GMT -9
That house looks great! A pretty unique design as far as table-top scenery goes, but I can envision it being just as useful in a fantasy swamp adventure or WWII era island-hopping scenario. Also, I have no idea how to design paper buildings, so this kinda thing always impresses me. Thank for the compliment! That makes us even chiefasaur, I have no talent for drawing figures, so I'm continually impressed by your work, and the work of other figure designers! Both groups of people are sort of dependent on each other, buildings need inhabitants, and people/creatures need places to live/do business/travel in!
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Post by berneart76 on Oct 27, 2016 14:47:19 GMT -9
And have been working on this as a compromise between the wood board walls and plastered walls for the European version, painted boards!
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Post by berneart76 on Jan 5, 2017 12:04:04 GMT -9
So been working on refining my Sketchup skills, and some designs for the cruck House, now to work on the layouts and texturing:
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Post by whisper31 on Jan 5, 2017 14:42:00 GMT -9
That house looks great! A pretty unique design as far as table-top scenery goes, but I can envision it being just as useful in a fantasy swamp adventure or WWII era island-hopping scenario. Also, I have no idea how to design paper buildings, so this kinda thing always impresses me. Thank for the compliment! That makes us even chiefasaur , I have no talent for drawing figures, so I'm continually impressed by your work, and the work of other figure designers! Both groups of people are sort of dependent on each other, buildings need inhabitants, and people/creatures need places to live/do business/travel in! And I have the talent to do neither, so both of you should get kudos for all the work you have been pouring into the models that you can do. With just a touch of tweaking, you can even do Barbary Coast Pirates era as well.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jan 5, 2017 15:57:43 GMT -9
I am going to be doing WW2 Pacific later this year, and I am *highly* interested in th tropical house.
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Post by berneart76 on Jan 5, 2017 16:10:28 GMT -9
I am going to be doing WW2 Pacific later this year, and I am *highly* interested in th tropical house. I'll try to get those out as well, they are similar in design, the texturing and a few roof changes are the differences. Also working on the shading of the textures for them.
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Post by hackbarth on Jan 8, 2017 3:32:04 GMT -9
As much as I like the green roofs in the tropical versions, I have to point that once cut, the palm fronds turn brown in a week at most...
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Post by Papercraft Warrior on Jan 8, 2017 3:48:09 GMT -9
As much as I like the green roofs in the tropical versions, I have to point that once cut, the palm fronds turn brown in a week at most... In fantasy setting, they are built in the lands of everspring, where they continue to live on feeding on the sun and raindrops. Or they are painted over, line the grass around the military bases. On a side note, every time I see this topic I imagine the downtrodden addict slums, since i read it as Crack Houses.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 8, 2017 5:35:04 GMT -9
Or like my yard when I was in college. We used Round-up on the yard in the spring and then we would use food coloring once a month to keep it a lovely green. Except by mid-summer, it was green dirt, not grass ...
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Post by berneart76 on Jan 15, 2017 13:33:57 GMT -9
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Feb 24, 2017 22:01:46 GMT -9
Heya, berneart76, I am like a month and a half late on this, but thank you for the island hut. I am starting on my Japanese next month and I do love my paper scenery to go with my miniatures projects.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Feb 27, 2017 15:44:54 GMT -9
I am well into a detailed interior and removable roof section for the tropical house.
Question: is this thing supposed to be on stilts? If so, how high?
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Post by Vermin King on Feb 27, 2017 16:32:56 GMT -9
Stilts would be optional, so you can make them as tall as you want
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Feb 27, 2017 16:57:41 GMT -9
Here we go, interior/exterior hut with lift-off roof and no instructions. The images I was able to pull from Tom's links were fairly low rez, so if someone could send me links to 300 dpi versions I could make this much nicer. I made the roof a little browner and a little lighter based on my experience with dried palm thatch... I will see if I can get a build done it over the next few days, just to make sure everything lines up right. I was kind of making a lot of guesses on the resizing lol!
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Post by berneart76 on Jul 13, 2017 16:13:41 GMT -9
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jul 14, 2017 20:54:25 GMT -9
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Post by berneart76 on Oct 5, 2017 18:16:30 GMT -9
OK, getting back into it, after doing some deep diving to repair a lot of my programs, and find some earlier models I had done. New designs for European cruck/stilt houses: And some deep diving to find my piling bases and do some test texturing:
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 6, 2017 4:16:55 GMT -9
Wow, Tom, that looks really good
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