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Post by Vermin King on Jan 12, 2018 17:51:54 GMT -9
As should be obvious by now, I hit many of the papercraft blogs and links pages almost daily. And I suffer from 'I might need that someday' syndrome, and download some oddball stuff. Amongst the piles and piles of files, is a large number of Fire and Emergency Vehicles. And every so often I go back and look for something that sparks my interest. Tonight, I found r3_craft.pdf, downloaded on 06/04/2014, and had an idea for it. I wanted to link to it, so I went on a search, and found the ninjatoes post of 06/04/2014, ninjatoes.blogspot.com/2014/06/papercraft-irumatohbu-rescue-fire.htmlWayback Machine doesn't get to the files, though. r3 is the one in the middle. It uses a combination of tab/slot and glue tab construction, but has an interesting geometry that I think could yield an interesting military vehicle. We'll see
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jan 12, 2018 20:06:35 GMT -9
I, too, download a lot of things I have no immediate use for o.0
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 13, 2018 8:35:44 GMT -9
I should have looked at this more before printing. I've got some things that need different coloring, and I'm not sure what I plan to help the wheels out, but it has some promise
And PostImage is down again. First a code 0 server error and now a bad gateway
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 13, 2018 8:39:03 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 13, 2018 16:10:01 GMT -9
Building a second one of these. Just fixed graphics. 3d wheels. No boom. I'm trying to make this enough 'mine' that it might be considered for the motorpool. Only, I'm not seeing much to spark my interest in other versions. I do plan on doing a longer box that abuts the cab, and maybe a 6-wheeler or two. I'm thinking about an armored personnel transport and a flat-bed. As I have this laid out, it is two pages. The first page has the cab and base. Second page has back end and wheels. On my first draft of the personnel carrier, I have storage boxes just above the wheels, small windows above. It might look good in SWAT blue.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 13, 2018 17:45:44 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 14, 2018 7:22:58 GMT -9
Haven't tried it yet, but I think I came up with a way to make the back ends interchangeable. I think the current dull color seems right for military applications. It doesn't look out of place with the desert vehicles. It doesn't look horribly out of place against the green Zis, so it shouldn't be too bad against olive drab. If I do the SWAT version, it should be blue, but I think I want to do this guy in another scheme. Ideas?
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Post by Papercraft Warrior on Jan 14, 2018 7:52:29 GMT -9
Soviet Forest Camo?
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 14, 2018 9:08:48 GMT -9
I've been in-less-than-perfect health lately. A bug I can't quite shake. Matching up camo might be a stretch right now. But we'll see
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Post by Papercraft Warrior on Jan 14, 2018 10:26:53 GMT -9
Take care of yourself!
I'm having some issues as well, so I'm working on smaller project than originally planned for the hoard. Better something than nothing.
Best wishes
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Post by paintinglittlesods on Jan 14, 2018 15:53:26 GMT -9
These remind me of the cardboard buses and trucks that used to come on the eback of cereal packets in the deep recess of the early 80's.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 14, 2018 18:19:53 GMT -9
If you do a search on the forums here, we have links to some of the old cereal box models, and also to other vintage models.
I apologize that I was viewing these more as paper toys than paper models. I could be wrong, as I often am, but in gaming, terrain pieces need to fall in between. Models are far more detailed than required, and paper toys are either too simple graphically or in geometry, or both.
My goal is to get the geometry down, and then work on the graphics. Graphics are so very important in order to achieve an acceptable piece with the simplest geometry. I think that is probably why I appreciate Dave Winfield's Koolwheelz models so much.
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Post by Papercraft Warrior on Jan 15, 2018 0:43:39 GMT -9
Do not sell your work short.
Genet Onager and Convoy are dirt simple geometry, but the genius of Christopher, and the good texturing make them very fine models.
Even 4x4 GPV and 6x6 APV have no geometry to speak off, except the tire slots. And I love them!
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jan 15, 2018 5:47:33 GMT -9
1) I would appreciate a pink version, kind of like Chris Roe's pink option. Kind of a duller, dusty pink, not bubblegum pink. Because, you know, my pink scenery. 2) as we discussed when working on the Soviet and Japanese trucks, they don't need to be scale models with all the bells, whistles, and 53 moving parts. Simple is good when it comes to forum stuff, not everyone is an expert. Just my thoughts
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 15, 2018 6:05:44 GMT -9
My apology was in showing my work too soon. I do want to stay primarily with the dull light gray-brown, but have to jazz it up a bit. I should have also considered optional back ends earlier. But until I have built something, sometimes it is hard to visualize what I would like to do with it and evaluate what can be done.
BTW ... last night I was working on a canvas-top back end with your camo on it.
I have also decided that I need to make the colors less drab and more 'warm'
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 15, 2018 6:12:10 GMT -9
1) I would appreciate a pink version, kind of like Chris Roe's pink option. Kind of a duller, dusty pink, not bubblegum pink. Because, you know, my pink scenery. 2) as we discussed when working on the Soviet and Japanese trucks, they don't need to be scale models with all the bells, whistles, and 53 moving parts. Simple is good when it comes to forum stuff, not everyone is an expert. Just my thoughts I think this truck is a Unimog, so I still feel like I need to keep at least one short bed version in there. I've seen a few photos where the spare tire is stored between the cab and the bed, but for most folks, the longer bed version is going to be more versatile. I have 4X4 and 6X6 versions. And it really is a quick build. Each version is pretty simple. I prefer the optional Ebbles half wheels backing the tires, but they are optional. As far as your pink, could you post a patch of the color you want for the main color? Then for the contrast color, I can go just a tad darker.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jan 15, 2018 7:20:41 GMT -9
As far as your pink, could you post a patch of the color you want for the main color? Then for the contrast color, I can go just a tad darker. This is a part of the top of the pink Sandmaster. I have no idea how he does his texturing, but I sure would like to know!
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 15, 2018 7:28:47 GMT -9
Wouldn't we all!
I think that the Desert Pink Onager has a large enough panel that I can sample it and texture the Stupid Truck
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jan 15, 2018 8:04:11 GMT -9
Yes. Yes we would. My next project is to see if I can mess with the tan of the Longhauler and the Onager in GIMP and see if I can get a suitable pink for those as well
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 15, 2018 8:11:18 GMT -9
Good luck with that. My guess is that the tan is too drab to get to the point you want without a lot of effort. You may have better luck deleting the textures and pasting in the Ebbles pink texture
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 15, 2018 11:13:13 GMT -9
And after working for two and a half hours today before I realized that this was an official holiday. They never sent me a list of the holidays for this year, and we worked on MLKJr's Birthday last year, but I couldn't reach anyone at North American or John Hancock, so I called out to the Novato office, and was forwarded to the Sacramento office, which had 'no one available to take your call.' So, I'm taking the rest of the day off. New base color. Fixed some artifacts. Finished up the Canvas-Top. Looked into the Ebbles textures, and started to work on the SWAT version. I think I have an idea that will make this guy very useful ... a flat-bed version of the 4X4 and 6X6. The idea came from looking for Desert Pink Ebbles textures, and finding the largest patch of it in the Onager. When I went back to test the concept, I was looking at the back of the Onager. Why try to come up with a version of these ... when I can make a flat-bed and fit a slightly reduced Onager back-end on this guy. Using the same method I was looking at for the Desert Pink Truck, I could do the same for a Blue Tactical Truck. The flat-bed piece has to sit higher than the top of the Stupid Truck base, otherwise there is no clearance for the rear wheels. But once I do the flat-bed, you could put anything on the flat surface. I think it sounds promising anyway Only, I'll have to change the hue on the pink one to blue ...
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 15, 2018 17:34:13 GMT -9
The slide-on/slide-off back end idea is less than successful, but moving in the right direction. Remember up above when I said that you have to build something to figure things out? I don't have the wheel halves installed, yet, but they won't help that much to make things secure. My new idea is a box rail that goes inside the back end. This will result in a channel between the wheel halves and the rail to slide over the frame. These and the tabs and slots should make things secure
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 15, 2018 18:53:45 GMT -9
Well, the wheels helped, but what I need is a right triangle tube, and I'm not thinking mathematically right now. Does anyone know of a right triangle tube? I can re-size to fit. But I did create my colorless version of the cab and base, and generated the Ebbles Desert Pink and OAP Blue textures. As a test, I think the Desert Pink will work
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jan 15, 2018 22:45:14 GMT -9
Why, thank you, sir!
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 16, 2018 12:53:05 GMT -9
1.41 = square root of 2. After work, I'm going to make right triangle rails to fit in the various back ends, so you can swap out the back ends. Should also be able to get the flat-bed done. Maybe even start on the Tactical Vehicle
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 16, 2018 17:56:22 GMT -9
Yes, the channel idea works great. But I don't think that it's all that useful on trucks. Why not just have separate trucks?
But the idea should be useful for something. I just don't know for what. It appears that I have found an excellent solution for a non-existent problem.
I'm going to go back to doing this as a solid construction, but I think that it was a useful experiment, maybe
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 16, 2018 20:04:00 GMT -9
And I got the flat-bed done. Things get much simpler when you aren't building 'swappable'
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 17, 2018 12:25:23 GMT -9
I also did the Tactical Vehicle files last night. Touched up some artifacts and printed off at lunch. I'm looking forward to building it tonight
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Post by Papercraft Warrior on Jan 17, 2018 12:41:11 GMT -9
I also did the Tactical Vehicle files last night. Touched up some artifacts and printed off at lunch. I'm looking forward to building it tonight Post some teasers when you get the time, we are all eager to see.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 17, 2018 14:51:48 GMT -9
The cutting begins Only PostImage isn't taking any uploads right now There she goes
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