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Post by Vermin King on Oct 3, 2018 4:43:00 GMT -9
starting much earlier this year because I anticipate a time crunch very soon.
The 2018 Hoards were --
FH 161 January Future Motorpool FH 162 February Elder God Valentines FH 163 March Japanese Mythos FH 164 April Medieval Superheroes FH 165 May 2D or Not 2D, These Are the Dungeon Props FH 166 June Real Animals FH 167 July Ancient Greece FH 168 August Papercuts FH 169 September Halloween Wars FH 170 October To the Moon FH 171 November Christmas Wars FH 172 December The Hoard of the Procrastinators
Some of these are traditionally set, but we need to fill in the blanks
FH 173 January - Under-Represented Races FH 174 February - Circus Comes to Silver Springs FH 175 March - Off the Map FH 176 April - PLASEBUILMO (Play Set Building Month) FH 177 May - Kids vs ... FH 178 June - One Small Step FH 179 July - Flotsam, Jetsam and Cargo FH *** August - Papercuts 2019 FH 180 September - Early Retro Future Space FH 181 October - Welcome to the Jungle FH 182 November - Great White North FH 183 December - Hoard of the Procrastinators
Feel free to post any and all suggestions
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Post by wyvern on Oct 3, 2018 6:16:15 GMT -9
We seem to have picked a period-historical/archaeological culture or area for one Hoard in most years recently, so perhaps something from Meso and/or South America, such as the Maya, Incas and Aztecs might be one possibility (given there are inspirational coloured period illustrations readily available for the costumes, weapons, etc., for all of those)? Plus they all have interesting architectural features for anyone thinking beyond minis.
There's the obvious 50th anniversary of the Apollo Moon landing in July, but we rather pre-empted that with this month's Hoard (2018 October). However, maybe a science-fiction or Victorian science-fiction option would work instead, something like The Meeting of Two Worlds, say, with earthly and alien options to consider. The recent talk of representing invisible creatures on the tabletop makes me think too of a Creature from the Id (Forbidden Planet movie).
For the classic fantasy and RPG side, what about minis for some of the under-represented player-character RPG races - Those Less Seen? So no humans, elves or dwarves, but others like halflings, gnomes, dragonborn, tieflings, etc. Or indeed some from the less mainstream fantasy RPG settings. Plus this may be a good time to consider some RuneQuest minis as well, with the game's PDF relaunch this year and the hardcopy books to follow into next (I think)?
As a setting option, how about Jungle Tales? Flexible title, allowing for scenery, props and minis, and without restricting it to a time-period or culture, but opening it up to any genre - not just the classic "Lost World" or "Tarzan" settings either.
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Post by squirmydad on Oct 3, 2018 7:58:26 GMT -9
I love all of Wyvern's suggestions! I was thinking of a sci-fi setting: Spaceport, which could be vehicles, ships, plans, intergalactic luggage of the future, passengers, drifters, duty-free space shop. Caped Crusaders, a superhero & villain horde. Off the Map or Here be Monsters, explorers, pirates, strange beasties, lost civilizations.
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Post by cowboycentaur on Oct 3, 2018 12:57:03 GMT -9
Been a few years since theres been a wild west Hoard. I'd sure like to see one and try to participate in it
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 3, 2018 13:42:50 GMT -9
March of 2011 seems to be the last big hoard for Wild West, but there have been some individual pieces in other hoards.
I do believe it is overdue
I really like the Spaceport idea, because it could include just about anything. And I haven't designed anything Sci Fi for a long time.
I also like VSF a lot, but last time only one contributor. I'd like to include it, but I would like to see some enthusiasm for it. It scares me a tad.
Meeting of Two Worlds is another one of those wide open categories. It doesn't even have to be two planets. It could even include Old World/New World or Land/Sea or Surface/Subterranean. I'd like to hear some discussion on these.
I try to get a 'setting' in there each year. Missed it this year, but Jungle Tales would definitely fit
I post these each year to open discussion. There are no wrong answers
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Post by gloriousbattle on Oct 4, 2018 19:36:13 GMT -9
Strange Saints St. Christopher is often pictured with a dog's head, because of an Irish legend that had him belonging to a dog-headed race that ate human flesh. www.christopherhallart.com/blog/2015/1/15/saint-christopher-the-dog-headed-saint"Saint Guinefort" was an actual dog, who, while never canonized, still had a following among the faithful. Saint Denis, Bishop of Paris, was beheaded, but kept preaching the gospel in this state. St. Joseph of Cupertino was mentally handicapped, but this didn't keep him from levitating. St. Margaret of Antioch was swallowed whole by Satan (in the form of a dragon) but she cut her way out of his stomach with a cross. And, of course: "St. Dunstan, as the story goes, Once pulled the Devil by the nose, With red hot tongs, that made him roar, And could be heard ten miles or more." charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2016/12/saint-dunstan-of-glastonbury.html
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Post by shep on Oct 4, 2018 23:12:27 GMT -9
I like the themes so far. How about Tomorrow that never was for minis, models and scenery of retrofuturistic style, like flying cars, Flash Gordon or Thhunderbirds style spaceships/rockets, and other wonderful things of a future that has already gone by from our point of view. And since I'm uite sure that 2019 will see a third season of Stranger Things, how about Kids vs. Monsters back in the day? You see, I think that what »Kids on Bikes« states is true: Stories about nosy kids vs. fake monster and ignorant criminal adults can only work in a time before smartphones, high-speed internet, and google – meaning in the 70's, 80's, and 90's...
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 5, 2018 6:01:32 GMT -9
Retro Sci Fi sounds interesting. These are always tough to pick out, because you have to be generalized and specific at the same time. Generalized enough to cover a lot of ground, but specific enough to kick the brain cells into gear.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Oct 5, 2018 11:18:17 GMT -9
Planes, Trains, And Automobiles
It seems every Hoard we get at least one vehicle... we've had themed vehicle Hoards before, but how about an unthemed vehicle Hoard? Wagons, carriages, skimmers, cars, tanks... if it was built and can move, let's do it.
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 5, 2018 15:14:05 GMT -9
Planes, Trains, And AutomobilesIt seems every Hoard we get at least one vehicle... we've had themed vehicle Hoards before, but how about an unthemed vehicle Hoard? Wagons, carriages, skimmers, cars, tanks... if it was built and can move, let's do it. Since I'm a vehicle guy, this interests me. Can you say Egg Foo Yong tours, Shaguar and Rory's E-Type?
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Oct 5, 2018 22:13:48 GMT -9
Punkrabbitt sez: "Egg Foo Yong tours, Shaguar and Rory's E-Type"
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 9, 2018 18:51:03 GMT -9
Punkrabbitt sez: "Egg Foo Yong tours, Shaguar and Rory's E-Type" You inspired me, sir. I hate putting in 20 minutes of work and discover the error I created 20 minutes ago. But here's where I had my last save before screwing things up
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 27, 2018 5:44:31 GMT -9
Since November is right around the corner, didn't want us to forget this
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Post by shep on Oct 27, 2018 8:49:45 GMT -9
I'd like to bring this back to everyone's attention, since no one said anything about it... And since I'm uite sure that 2019 will see a third season of Stranger Things, how about Kids vs. Monsters back in the day? You see, I think that what »Kids on Bikes« states is true: Stories about nosy kids vs. fake monster and ignorant criminal adults can only work in a time before smartphones, high-speed internet, and google – meaning in the 70's, 80's, and 90's... I know that this genre is usually called "Kids on Bikes" or "Damn Nosy Kids and Their Pet", and that there are tons of variations of these kinds of youth detectives. So, this can be a very wide and varied field to dabble into...
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Post by wyvern on Oct 27, 2018 8:50:51 GMT -9
Yeah, this topic came back to my mind too late yesterday. I was thinking Evil Carnival perhaps, so options for evil clowns and items from places such as the 1972 movie Vampire Circus, along with things like weird sideshows and tents - Hall of Mirrors, etc. May have been influenced by listening to ELP's Karn Evil in all this, though we'd never get away with much that they described under the Hoard rules! Maybe the bishops' heads in jars is all, and the single blade of grass behind its protective glass...
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Post by shep on Oct 27, 2018 10:29:06 GMT -9
The Evil Carnval and the Nosy Kids could easily be combined... That'd fit together perfectly! For the last two weeks, I've been busy writning up a German Loop for »Tales From The Loop« for a German RPG print mag. That made me re-watch Stragner Things and the old Famous Five TV show from the late 70's/early 80's, as well as the two Three Investigators movies from around 10 years ago and an 80's series of TKKG, which is a German kid detectives series. Actually, we have loads of those here in Germany, as audio plays for kids and teens are a huge thing here. I myself grew up with such tapes. Nowadays, the stories come on CD and are released as books as well. Kids love those stories, hearing them when they have to go to bed... So, in total, no wonder I'm so into this stuff right now.
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 27, 2018 10:59:09 GMT -9
The evil carnival only works if it appears innocent ... until you look closer. Come and see! Be amazed and astounded!
That fairy carnival mentioned a couple weeks back, or a Gypsy Zirkus, or the market entertainers. I think the carnival/circus idea should stand on its own. Frankly, it could be huge. Especially if you threw in a menagerie.
I also think Nosy Kids is a great topic, but we'd need to point folks in the right direction on suitable games. At least I'd need pointed towards them.
I'd also like to come back to the Moon Landing for June or July next year. 50th anniversary and all. Just think of all the movie sets and everything (I forget, was it Petaluma where it was filmed?). No, seriously, I think it ought to be revisited.
South America could be a lot of fun. Potatoes, alpacas, guinea pigs, terror birds, and the mandatory civilizations
Speaking of civilizations, have we ever had a Mongol Hordes Hoard? I'd really like to see an Out of Egypt theme take off, too
And how long has it been since we did Wild West?
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Post by wyvern on Oct 27, 2018 11:12:56 GMT -9
I'd thought of suggesting the Moon landing as a Hoard topic for next year too, but having suggested one for this year as well, didn't feel comfortable making the connection myself again! As it seems to have sparked some ideas that may not be completed for this month's Hoard though, that would perhaps be a good one to add in now - presumably for June or July? For Noisy Kids inspiration, you can still pick up the freebie from the DTRPG Hallowe'en Sale page Treasure Hunt icon, as that'll get you a copy of the Kids on Bikes: Core Rulebook, if you haven't done so already
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Post by cowboyleland on Oct 27, 2018 13:07:26 GMT -9
Something to think about: I worked with someone who participated in the "72 hr (or something like that) novel writing competition" every year. It wasn't about making great novels. It was about getting novels finished. I think the Hoards might work the same way; " I have always wanted to make X but this month I am actually going to do it." I don't know if that informs this discussion or not. I am not sure how to move the theory to practice.
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 27, 2018 13:38:28 GMT -9
I totally agree with you there on all counts.
Well, I think two things need to be scheduled. Wild West is so overdue, I'm going to put it in January. I was going to put Apollo landing in June, to give time to publish before July 20. Nothing in stone, if we want to move it to July.
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I'm just compiling ideas here
Meso/South America
Moon Landing already scheduled, but could be moved Early Sci Fi Jungle Spaceport Caped Crusaders Explorers, pirates, strange beasties, lost civilizations
Wild West already slotted Strange Saints Retro Future Kids vs ... Vehicles Carnival/ circus Under-represented races. PLASEBUILMO
Can we really go two years without Traditional Fantasy or Medieval?
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Post by wyvern on Oct 28, 2018 5:10:21 GMT -9
I was going to put Apollo landing in June, to give time to publish before July 20. Nothing in stone, if we want to move it to July. June seems sensible, I think, hence the Hallowe'en Hoard has become September's each time. Can we really go two years without Traditional Fantasy or Medieval? Easily More seriously, both are already very heavily represented both among the Hoards and other free figures available via the One Monk Downloads, aside from the many paid-for sets on the OBS sites, etc. I for one could do with seeing a lot less new material in the pseudo-medieval line, especially for buildings, as I find they tend to blur into all one kind of mock-Tudor "block" in my mind sometimes, and that becomes a huge turn-off. Of course, their potential absence for 2019 may depend only on interpretation, looking at the list of possible topics. Even Caped Crusaders could be medieval, if we take it as being the Knights Templar, say
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Post by shep on Oct 28, 2018 11:01:56 GMT -9
Something to think about: I worked with someone who participated in the "72 hr (or something like that) novel writing competition" every year. It wasn't about making great novels. It was about getting novels finished. I think the Hoards might work the same way; " I have always wanted to make X but this month I am actually going to do it." I don't know if that informs this discussion or not. I am not sure how to move the theory to practice. There's the National Novel Writing Month, NANOWRIMO for short, every year in November, where people try to write a novel of 50.000+ words in just 30 days. Perhaps we should rename the hoard in PLASEBUILMO: Play Set Building Month...
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Post by shep on Oct 28, 2018 11:09:41 GMT -9
The evil carnival only works if it appears innocent ... until you look closer. Come and see! Be amazed and astounded! That fairy carnival mentioned a couple weeks back, or a Gypsy Zirkus, or the market entertainers. I think the carnival/circus idea should stand on its own. Frankly, it could be huge. Especially if you threw in a menagerie. Yeah, like with totally innocent fronts and lurking monsters hinted on the back... Like wyvern mentioned above, "Kids on Bikes" is for free in the Halloween spree of DTRPG. Other games would be Electric Schemes, ReMemorex, and Modiphius Entertainment's 5 times ENnies winner of 2017 Tales From The Loop...
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Post by Vermin King on Oct 28, 2018 11:18:01 GMT -9
Something to think about: I worked with someone who participated in the "72 hr (or something like that) novel writing competition" every year. It wasn't about making great novels. It was about getting novels finished. I think the Hoards might work the same way; " I have always wanted to make X but this month I am actually going to do it." I don't know if that informs this discussion or not. I am not sure how to move the theory to practice. There the National Novel Writing Month, NANOWRIMO for short, every year in November, where people try to write a novel of 50.000+ words in just 30 days. Perhaps we should rename the hoard in PLASEBUILMO: Play Set Building Month... I really like that concept
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 8, 2018 13:09:15 GMT -9
Just giving this a bump
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Post by shep on Nov 10, 2018 10:44:43 GMT -9
Okay, feeling bumped... I too think that there are many great fantasy minis and sets available through the past hoards and the other download options here. And on top of that, you get plenty of links to great sets outside this realm, which cost, as we here in Germany put it, "an apple and an egg". So, even someone on a budget will be able to buy for example any deluxe set from Kev's Lounge, or any given set from Okumarts. Therefor, I'd vote for underrepresented themes like the carnival/circus, retro future, explorers and such in a Jules Verne/A.C. Doyle style, and Meso/South America (esp. since the RPG "Dragons Conquer America" ( burning-games.com/dragons-conquer-america/) will be out soon)... Btw, I like that the Moon Landing and the Wild West are already set, and I especially like them where they are. If they show the moon landing on TV like they did 10 years ago (meaning in real time from take off to touchdown), I will have plenty time to build the models and minis from the hoard...
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Post by shep on Nov 10, 2018 10:52:05 GMT -9
Oh, and another idea... We could make PlaSeBuilMo a "counterweight" competition to Papercuts, if we would put it in Febuary. However, to not fill all the slots of the year with fixed themes and events, I would also suggest to hold PlaSeBuilMo only every other year, give it a fixed theme, and a minimum of models and/or minis needed (like 2 models and 2 minis, or 3 models, or 4 minis)...
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Post by cowboycentaur on Nov 10, 2018 20:39:47 GMT -9
Okay, feeling bumped... I too think that there are many great fantasy minis and sets available through the past hoards and the other download options here. And on top of that, you get plenty of links to great sets outside this realm, which cost, as we here in Germany put it, "an apple and an egg". So, even someone on a budget will be able to buy for example any deluxe set from Kev's Lounge, or any given set from Okumarts. Therefor, I'd vote for underrepresented themes like the carnival/circus, retro future, explorers and such in a Jules Verne/A.C. Doyle style, and Meso/South America (esp. since the RPG "Dragons Conquer America" ( burning-games.com/dragons-conquer-america/) will be out soon)... Btw, I like that the Moon Landing and the Wild West are already set, and I especially like them where they are. If they show the moon landing on TV like they did 10 years ago (meaning in real time from take off to touchdown), I will have plenty time to build the models and minis from the hoard... oh! Circus would be a great theme!
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Post by cowboycentaur on Nov 10, 2018 20:44:22 GMT -9
Can we really go two years without Traditional Fantasy or Medieval? what about a theme featuring characters from podcasts/youtube/twitch shows such as aquisitions inc. or criticalm role? might be a way to get some traction towards our medium and this bunch of creators in particular. understand that D&D isnt everyones cup of tea but its really grown in the last couple of years, and paper minis are making something of a resurgance in that thanks to Kev, jess, Dave and Marshall.
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Post by gloriousbattle on Nov 16, 2018 16:20:55 GMT -9
Strange Saints St. Christopher is often pictured with a dog's head, because of an Irish legend that had him belonging to a dog-headed race that ate human flesh. www.christopherhallart.com/blog/2015/1/15/saint-christopher-the-dog-headed-saint"Saint Guinefort" was an actual dog, who, while never canonized, still had a following among the faithful. Saint Denis, Bishop of Paris, was beheaded, but kept preaching the gospel in this state. St. Joseph of Cupertino was mentally handicapped, but this didn't keep him from levitating. St. Margaret of Antioch was swallowed whole by Satan (in the form of a dragon) but she cut her way out of his stomach with a cross. And, of course: "St. Dunstan, as the story goes, Once pulled the Devil by the nose, With red hot tongs, that made him roar, And could be heard ten miles or more." charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2016/12/saint-dunstan-of-glastonbury.html
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