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Post by Vermin King on Mar 17, 2020 6:07:15 GMT -9
They found many Auroch skulls at Stonehenge, too, but have yet to see a photo of any of them
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 19, 2020 9:58:34 GMT -9
Well, I'm afraid to work on geometry scenarios while my brain is fuzzy, and I wasn't so sure adding flame would work, so I made another copy of the Colchis bulls at the bottom of the page. I carved out a section of a flaming explosion for the flame, put base layers in the area surrounding the figures, then in the black border, then another layer on top and reduced opacity so you could still see the muzzles. I think it will work at arms length, but if someone was just looking for giant oxen with bronze hooves, I left the non-flame version at the bottom. The way the artist drew the plow, I'm not sure if the share is supposed to be horizontal, or if we are only seeing one side of a share that is mounted diagonally on both sides. EDIT -- Wow, Agri-history and politics. Ignore facts and spout whatever to your audience. In spite of all the contradictions and misinformation, I'm starting to get a better picture of plow history and what is actually represented in that woodprint. And what probably was real and what is artist interpretation. My version will probably not be correct in some aspects, but from what I have read, I think that the shares should join along the top edge and slope to the sides. I didn't see it on Greek plows, but on ards and other early plows with one handle, the handle should extend to about chest high. One hand aligns and pushes down on the handle while the other hand holds the reins. I can somewhat visualize things now
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 19, 2020 18:24:51 GMT -9
Had to lengthen the beam, which I figured was shortened in the sketch anyway. That bottom board will be a four-layer accordian folded piece. Mouldboards on the sides will be fold-overs that glue over the sided of the board to cover the layers. The share will also be a fold-over as will the remainder of the vertical parts. I will try to get a parts layout tomorrow at lunch, if I can stop being distracted by research
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Post by wyvern on Mar 20, 2020 5:45:54 GMT -9
Given it's a mythological item, I don't think we can seriously quibble over details on the plough. Most ancient artworks showing such constructions tend to have inaccuracies of one sort or another compared to what would be physically possible/viable.
Bulls are looking good!
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 20, 2020 6:00:39 GMT -9
Well, I have always enjoyed watching Good Eats with Alton Brown, and I share a dislike of 'mono-taskers'. If I design a plow for this, I also want to have an ancient plow for general use. This one is too big for general use, so I am trying to design it so that it can be shrank down and have a somewhat authentic ancient plow in wood and bronze or iron, that looks good, but is also an easy build No, this is far from done, but I think folks will see what I am trying to do. Over lunch, I planned on finishing the beam and handle and start texturing. EDIT -- Well, I got the parts done, but no texturing
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 20, 2020 15:50:52 GMT -9
I bet you thought I forgot about this (and you thought right) but I am having a go tonight. I feel like his "kilt" is too voluminous at the back but I will honour the artist's interpretation. I will have to add some details to the "magic herbs" in his left hand but the back will be mostly cape so it should go pretty quickly.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 20, 2020 16:42:53 GMT -9
I worked on this, too
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 20, 2020 18:26:47 GMT -9
I am not a painter, but I think the cape is OK.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 20, 2020 19:27:53 GMT -9
Yeah, I'm definitely going to have to do some bases. If I lose the two bulls at the bottom, I'd have room for at least one base.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 21, 2020 7:35:20 GMT -9
Still needs a test build, but here's the CWF Jason and the Colchis Bulls playset And now with a Fields of Ares 6X6 ground tile
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Post by squirmydad on Mar 21, 2020 16:12:56 GMT -9
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Post by wyvern on Mar 22, 2020 3:05:51 GMT -9
It is, yet isn't, a load of bull(s) [Minor pedantic typo - it's actually the Field of Ares (War God), not Aries (Zodiacal Ram) ]
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 22, 2020 5:22:18 GMT -9
I will do the build of this today. I had planned on having a small image of it crowded into the page somewhere on a final version or up in the CWF header box on the left. Or move the title to the left and photo on the right. I imagine after building this, I will have a few tweaks, too EDIT - Error #1 is that somehow I lost the reverse side of the black bull. I evidently early on mirrored the front side. I'll have to get that fixed. EDIT #2 -- Ah, the importance of test builds. The black bull is fixed. Page is printed and scored. This afternoon, I will do the test build of the plow
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 22, 2020 18:25:15 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 23, 2020 9:33:15 GMT -9
After building it, I realized that none of the underneath portion of the blade shows, so if someone builds this, don't bother with doing the fold-over portions of the blade.
And yes, I will get around to doing a normal ancient Greek plow some day, with bronze blades and the rest wood, and sized for normal oxen
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Post by squirmydad on Mar 25, 2020 14:28:58 GMT -9
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 25, 2020 14:42:28 GMT -9
The longer horns really do help the appearance, don't they?
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