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Post by gothique on Jan 30, 2021 7:46:41 GMT -9
The underside is hollow. The sides have been overlapped at the tabs and one tile extended and similarly overlapped to avoid the need for internal walls.
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Post by gothique on Jan 30, 2021 7:50:50 GMT -9
Step 2: Internal supports. These are from a new set in development by Papierschnitzel but follow a method used in Chris Nahler's platform buildings, such as the Mausoleum and the Japanese Tea House
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Post by gothique on Jan 30, 2021 7:54:06 GMT -9
The first support in place near the corner
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Post by gothique on Jan 30, 2021 7:55:22 GMT -9
Ready for the base. I use 4 supports per 6 inch square
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Post by gothique on Jan 30, 2021 8:20:03 GMT -9
Fitting the base. For the base, the panels are not joined and only glue to three sides. This allows for fine adjustments
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Post by gothique on Jan 30, 2021 8:22:43 GMT -9
Step 3: The edging ready to fit. this is from Vermin King and recreates the large Istrian stone curbs unique to Venice.
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Post by gothique on Jan 30, 2021 8:23:51 GMT -9
Ready for the table. This one will complete the San Antonio riva
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Post by emergencyoverride on Jan 30, 2021 8:36:17 GMT -9
Nice! I love the design for the whole table!
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Post by gothique on Jan 30, 2021 10:19:02 GMT -9
Sortoportego San Antonio extended to a 2 foot stretch of riva. Front view from the canal
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Post by gothique on Jan 30, 2021 10:21:26 GMT -9
Back view of the same section. A piazza will extend from here to another canal with my waterline buildings. 15 inches between canals.
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Post by monstersbtm on Jan 30, 2021 10:34:15 GMT -9
Very well done gothique! Your Venice is really taking shape! The overall look so far is gorgeous and the solution to add supports to your Rivas is brilliant. Now I almost regret I have already glued polystyrene sheets to my wooden board.. 😭 May I give you a little tip? Try to vary the height of your buildings. So far are almost all the same height: you can happily add variety without make the whole setting odd. Venice is a crazy place, architectural speaking. A little correction for you, because tonight I feel annoying (😂) : in Venice there is only a single piazza, st mark square. All the others are campi and campielli. The word campo is literally translated as "field", because long time ago Venetian use to run some little vegetable gardens in there. Ok, now I quit. You are really creating something to draw inspiration from
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 30, 2021 11:38:09 GMT -9
Don't forget Corti, also. Frankly, the campi were mostly fields until Napoleon. He was appalled at the unhygienic fields in the city. I wonder how much of Paris was still green before he took over. He was also responsible for the 'pedestrianization' of Venice. Filled in canals and built streets where they were. He also straightened out many streets, basically shaving off the old facades and building new ones. I saw in one article that less than 25% of the buildings the tourists leaving the train station see on their way to Rialto are original. Less than that between Rialto and San Marcos. The Austrians continued where Napoleon left off. But at least they repaired the Rialto Bridge, whereas Napoleon wanted to replace it with something easier to traverse. I can't help but think he was trying to figure out ways to move troops better in the maze that was La Serenissima.
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Post by monstersbtm on Jan 30, 2021 11:50:52 GMT -9
Sad but true. French and Austrian occupation greatly changed the way Venice was. Even when under italian kingdom, during 19 and 20 centuries the idea of preservation was very diffent from what we think nowadays.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 30, 2021 12:20:08 GMT -9
And I appreciate the thought behind it, but to me it doesn't work. Under the Italian kingdom, a lot of buildings were torn down and replaced with new buildings that were meant to look 'Venetian'. Yes, they attempted to keep the feel of the city, but it is not authentic.
That's why I would like to explore things that I know are original and lose myself in the back streets and by-ways
I really wonder if the Venice of the 1700s would really feel like Venice to a modern person
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Post by gothique on Jan 30, 2021 12:48:50 GMT -9
Okay Campiella, not Piazza. I feel I will need a little artistic licence to make my table playable and recognizable, so paved campiella will be the compromise. As to height of buildings; the ones on my central canal go down to the waterline, making them an inch shorter. The Merchant Palaces on the high riva, representing the Grand Canal, tower over these by a good few inches and Squirmydad's apartment building is noticeable squatter than anything else. All this before I include the church with bell tower (I couldn't resist pinching that idea) and a David Graffam crane House. Never worry, I do not do dull uniformity.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 30, 2021 13:13:05 GMT -9
Space was a premium and neighborhoods would have similar geology, so some uniformity occurred. Even driving piles in the clay, you can only build so tall. Bell towers, churches and some palaces were higher. Some of the shops, warehouses, and homes were lower. But a lot of it was of similar height. Square buildings is probably more out of place. Maybe I should do some wonky buildings
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Post by gothique on Feb 4, 2021 8:15:58 GMT -9
I decided to make a slight change to Sortoportego San Antonio. The green Back Alleys building is being moved to another part of the table to make way for Caffe Lombardi (more about that later). In its place, I moved my blue sortoportego building down the riva and fitted a new side to accommodate the elevated walkway. This is one of the alternative textures for Vermin King's sortoportego building, flipped to fit the opposite side and given a few detail changes. The walkway has been raised to meet the roof. The yellow Back Alleys on this riva was modified to match.
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Post by gothique on Feb 7, 2021 5:20:32 GMT -9
Recently, my good friend Dario Lombardi sent me these pictures of his Sortoportego house build. I was duly impressed and decided to take his version as a starting point for my next building. Inspired by the famous Caffe Florian, my next build will be Caffe Lombardi
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Post by gothique on Feb 7, 2021 5:27:57 GMT -9
While I liked the idea of the balcony, I wanted my Caffe to stand out from the other sortoportego buildings. The first step was a yellow facade. Discussions with Dario got me thinking about other unique features. As a result, the grand entrance from Merchant Prince replaced the house door, to suggest a reception area for the cafe.
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Post by gothique on Feb 7, 2021 5:34:56 GMT -9
I also wanted to make the back distinctive. A little trial and error in Photoshop created a hybrid of back and sides. I added a chimney from Merchant Prince but decided to position the fireplace on the ground floor. My logic was this; a restaurant would have the kitchen on the ground floor and would need a large fireplace for the cooking range.
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Post by gothique on Feb 7, 2021 5:42:40 GMT -9
I also wanted to make Caffe Lombardi rise above its neighbours. I decided to compromise and fit the steeper pitched roof. The next step will be fitting an Altana to the roof for patrons who wish to drink outside. I may be importing the English beer garden idea onto a Venetian building but the platform will add more character and playability
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Post by Vermin King on Feb 7, 2021 5:43:42 GMT -9
Totally agree with your logic on this. The yellow version was inspired by Caffe do Spade (minus the graffiti)
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Post by monstersbtm on Feb 7, 2021 7:26:27 GMT -9
I'm Dario Lombardi and I approve this project 😂😂
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Post by gothique on Feb 7, 2021 8:00:07 GMT -9
Totally agree with your logic on this. The yellow version was inspired by Caffe do Spade (minus the graffiti) I am looking at possible ideas for signs, based on Caffe do Spade
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Post by Vermin King on Feb 7, 2021 8:47:33 GMT -9
I have not seen signs, except for the sotoportego
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Post by gothique on Feb 8, 2021 2:48:35 GMT -9
Finished, apart from a suitable sign.
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Post by gothique on Feb 8, 2021 2:49:10 GMT -9
From the back, with the altana
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Post by gothique on Feb 8, 2021 2:50:50 GMT -9
I decided to make the altana a permanent fixture, although the roof is still removable for transport. I may add some removeable furniture
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Post by gothique on Feb 8, 2021 3:39:43 GMT -9
How Caffe Lombardi fits into Sortoportego San Antonio
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Post by gothique on Feb 8, 2021 3:40:36 GMT -9
A better view of the changes to the blue sortoportego building
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