Post by gatchaman on Sept 19, 2009 12:43:25 GMT -9
Hi ! Heroscape is a simple, yet good game from MB (...now WotC). It can be very interesting to scavnege the rules to play in almost every universe since the fluff of the game is a huge history-fantasy-mythic-science-fiction crossover...
Post by squirmydad on Sept 23, 2009 9:22:16 GMT -9
There is a figure stat builder at Heroscapers. I don't know where, just do a search for it there in the files section. I know myself I'd like to do a paper version of heroscape, not a copy, but making set of different figures from different backgrounds and eras with heroscape stats.
I'm already at work on heroscape compatible paper terrain sets. JIM
Somewhere I have a spread sheet that I did to find the values and stats for HeroScape system. I could not find one even on HeroScapers so I took all the cards, did some comparative analysis, and gutted the rules for my HeroQuest system. Some of the original stats were strangely put together, but I used the HeroSCape Card Catalog to verify all my calculations and virtually recreate all of collections 1-8.
I am pretty sure I have that somewheres if it will do either of you any good.
It is just that, though. A program that lets you build a catalog, minus the catalog. It was made very early in the creation of HS, so some things are a bit off. The creator never got around to updating it.
I've never seen a real skill breakdown, so if you find one, Kane, let us know!
Post by squirmydad on Sept 27, 2009 18:35:18 GMT -9
I really like the idea of Heroscape in paper. I'll be working with Tom to do a bunch of my own compatible terrain sets. We have already shared the measurements of the tiles and such, so my stuff will be a perfect fit.
My idea though is slightly different. Since these are printable terrain parts, it's easier to build permanent terrain pieces from the parts. One thing I most dislike about Heroscape is the terrain assembly, and storage, I had three big tubs of the stuff, and it could take two people an hour to setup a good size layout.
I'd rather have a printed table mat with the hexes, and place pre-built terrain sections on it. At least this is what I will be designing for. It will still take a lot of storage, but it will be light, and easy to setup. Plus it's easily adapted to "Song of Games" rules.
I know I'd also like to do some heroscape type figure sets, like warbands, but from different eras and backgrounds. I think it would be a great way to break up the designing. Just ideas though. JIM
Actually heroscape is a reason why I come to paper minis again since it's so much pain to find the products in my small country so one of my project on the way is to create warband and heroes figure for the game... my computer died last night... so its on the side for now... but the terrain idea is great... I just wonder how to print a 6' by 4' hex base terrain ;D
And getting vertical with great wall textures would be huge. The textures and uniquely detailed prop pieces(Especially thematic building sets) is where I see this shinning. Like a complimentary Dark Castle to go with HS's own Castle Set. And alternate bridge(Bone bridge?), Wooded Bridge?. Different trees (swamp trees), submerged ruins, different but complementary water, lava would be cool. Catapults & different ruined walls.
Something I'd thought would be cool, but too ambitious for my meager skills. Would be showing modern relics tossed into the landscape. (ie. Think of the buried Statue of Liberty from original Planet of the Apes). Some buried artifacts like that would be really neat.
We'd just need to stat out your figure sets and you'd have a game. (Considering Heroscape's dice mechanics are borrowed from HeroQuest). Or maybe a similar paper/rock/scissor method. Possible Even/Odds (so you could use coins, cards or dice to play).
I should have somewhere a spreadsheet with points formulas. It is a very old file (i think it was done before the Heroscapers site) and i know it was the "base" on which HCC was built up (i remember well this, 'cause i was against doing a commercial program over a free work of someone else. If you're interested, i dig in my HDs to find it.
Post by Adam Souza on Dec 20, 2009 16:00:12 GMT -9
I'd kill for a Hersocape point formula. We play pretty much weekly and everyone would like to use customs. Right now we guestimate point costs, but I would prefer something a little more based in actual math
Here is my collection. HCC is included just because I used it to build and test all the values from collections 1 through 8. I haven't added collection 9, yet. The list view should come up with all the units though. Ignore Unit numbers. they don't factor into cost, and I added characteristics that cost something to the powers, since there was no way to do this through the system. Still it helped. Maybe I can help someone else. ;D
It would be really cool if someone could translate the D&D feats into Heroscape abilities, and develop some sort of costing.
I picked up a ton of D&D prepaints and are rebasing them for use as monsters for Heroscape dungeon crawls.
I haven't really touched any paper stuff for a couple months, I am still painting Uncharted seas ships, building terrain, converting battlemasters to full 3D with my own terrain setup, converting Heroscape and D&D figures to my own basing system, and enhancing a bunch of Heroscape terrain with paint, flock and magnetizing everything!
I have a bunch of Reaper figure hero models to paint up and stat out for a Heroscape dungeon crawl campaign, but I still need to find a good experience progression sysytem for Heroscape, I'm think of some sort of bastard child of Heroquest and Heroscape.
I'll do some of the paper Heroscape stuff when I really get into the games. I know I'd like to do some paper dungeon walls, and some hex riser parts, along with some dungeon accessory parts for my own use.
My designing is pretty much just going to follow what ever I happen to be doing for my own gaming, I'm getting tired of choosing to do stuff I want, or doing what everyone else is requesting. I finally have a group of people willing to play once they saw my layouts. I have a huge number of games and figures to play with now, so the paper stuff will always come SECOND to what I need for myself.
Post by Dryw the Harper on Dec 21, 2009 11:34:15 GMT -9
Good for you. Just about everything I've posted was things I needed for my own campaign that I felt would be useful to others if I shared it, not things others requested that I then felt I had to do (other than the Imperfect Orient, though I don't know why I felt I had to do it even though I didn't need it for my own game).
Anyway, unless you can make enough $$$ to do this and nothing else (ha ha ha ha), doing this is supposed to be a hobby and enjoyable. So relax and have fun. ;D Dryw the Harper
Post by Adam Souza on Dec 23, 2009 13:38:32 GMT -9
Jabbro, thank you for the link. That little application is awesome. After the holidays I'm going to sit down with my gaming group and iron out some custom datacards. I'll post them here if anyone is interested in them.
Jim, you gotta do what keeps you happy. I just figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. I'm still interested in the snow, necro, and tech terrain had mentioned, but good thing are usually worth waiting for.
Any chance you wouldn't mind sharing the blanks for the hex terrain ? I want to make brick walls for Marvel Heroscape.
Post by squirmydad on Dec 24, 2009 10:54:49 GMT -9
Not a problem, I'm glad to read Tom is going to release more hex stuff. I'll just keep my stuff to myself. I worked out with Tom to do some generic terrain packs for Snow, Desert, and Mountain type areas, but I'll consult with Tom to make sure my stuff either compliments what he's doing or just not release it. Even so, I'll be doing my hex terrain stuff for free anyway, but don't want to cause Tom any problems giving away something similar to what he's selling. JIM
Post by Adam Souza on Dec 24, 2009 14:37:25 GMT -9
That's good of you Jim.
Just as long as you share it with me
I'll be buying Tom's stuff either way.
As for the D&D set, my expectations are pretty low. The figures are all rebased/repainted D&D minis. There is less terrain, and less figures than the original set. Unfortunately, none of this will probably stop me from buying it.
I was just hoping they would have relased the 4 Marvel Heroscape packs they had planned/prototyped before they snapped up WizKids.
Post by squirmydad on Dec 24, 2009 19:07:48 GMT -9
I'm thinking the new D&D set will actually be a good thing. The availability of cheap D&D prepaints will get a lot of heroscape custom unit creators to design a tom of monsters for the game. I know I have stocked up on a couple hundred prepaints in anticipation. I don't like to mix paper figs with 3D figures, so will be doing only terrain bits for the heroscape stuff. JIM
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