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Post by jeffgeorge on Oct 20, 2016 6:37:42 GMT -9
Welcome to the forum. What ruleset do you use, talpoid ? Second that. I'd love to know a set of good rules for Star Fleet-style ship-to-ship miniatures combat. |
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Post by talpoid on Oct 20, 2016 8:20:29 GMT -9
I use the Where No Man Has Gone Before rules for RPG games. I use that ruleset for sort of thematic "TV-esque" battles. I think it would be neat to have some ship battle rules as well, but simple. I have played a lot of rule sets like old FASA etc. Not sure any were perfect for my games.
Like I said I don't have much to offer due to my non-artistic nature, but if someone is interested in requests I would love to see a sheet of "Alien Antagonists" for First Contact Missions. Just a sheet of slight adaptations to the current figs would be great. Same with some interesting ships. I am using the Pyramid ship for a game soon and would love some aliens to put in them in the same art style. Just my 2 cents.
Again, Thanks!
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Post by shep on Oct 20, 2016 8:20:45 GMT -9
Come summer 2017, Modiphius Games will publish the new official Star Trek RPG "Star Trek Adventures". Right now, you can register for their live playtest. From their website: Here's how play testing will work: - If you sign up as a Player without a group then you'll be given our playtest rules to look over, inviting you to give feedback on them through our forms online. There will also be discussions on our forums about finding a group to play with and rules.
- If you sign up as a Games Master with a group of players to test with then we'll give you scenarios to test different aspects of the rules with an online feedback system.
- Games Masters will also be able to select one of four starships they would like their group to adventure in! Each starship has its own flavour of missions that come together and interact with each other in our "Living Playtest".
- U.S.S Lexington - A Constitution class starship, like the original U.S.S Enterprise with a mixture of missions.
- U.S.S Venture - A galaxy class vessel, like the U.S.S Enterprise - D, will have more of a cultural stance to its missions with some exploration and combat.
- U.S.S Thunderchild - An Akira class starship whose missions will be mostly tactical in nature, testing the combat rules, as well as exploration.
- U.S.S Bellerophon - An Intrepid class starship that will focus on science and exploration alongside conflict.
- Groups will be encouraged to discuss their missions and share information to help get to the bottom of the various mysteries in our Starfleet Com Channels launching soon in the Modiphius online forums.
- We are aiming to start open playtesting in November. There will be several waves of playtesting for your group to take part in, each accompanied by new missions and a storyline that will grow based on the actions of crews across the world!
Interested? Head here: www.modiphius.com/star-trek.htmlAlso, I wouldn't be me, if I did not do something for a nicer gaming experience.  So, I grabbed some of the minis already in this forum and modified them to be the ships from the playtest. In case of the Thunderchild, I made a new mini. They are 90% ready, I'll post the PDF in a few days. Till then have a pic of my prototype Thunderchild...   Aaaand… I'm also working on a new map: a generic TNG-style bridge. ^^  |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Oct 20, 2016 11:52:30 GMT -9
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Post by talpoid on Oct 21, 2016 4:37:13 GMT -9
Thanks Coyotepunc! I should have thought that through. I forgot I can just look for some other 28mm paper minis to use. Great idea.
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Oct 21, 2016 11:51:54 GMT -9
Thanks Coyotepunc! I should have thought that through. I forgot I can just look for some other 28mm paper minis to use. Great idea. Also, I am working on some specific aliens to go with the pyramid ships based on the Stargate standees, They may not be to your taste because they are made to my wofe's specifications, but check out the Kemet Tribal Landing Party. Not quite done yet, but I expect to have some more up later today or tomorrow. |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Oct 21, 2016 20:37:14 GMT -9
I am still getting a 404 error for the middle link  |
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Post by cowboyleland on Oct 21, 2016 21:03:50 GMT -9
For me chrome opens a blank page but then the PDF opens. Not a computer guy, so I don't know what that means. But that is what happens.
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Post by okumarts on Oct 22, 2016 4:43:39 GMT -9
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Oct 22, 2016 8:50:11 GMT -9
Thank you! Worked like a charm! |
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Post by shep on Oct 24, 2016 13:37:00 GMT -9
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Oct 25, 2016 4:52:28 GMT -9
OK, so here we have the second offering of Kemet Tribal starships. The Mastabas are a bit smaller than the Pyramids. There are three in good fighting shape, one that seems a little past it's prime, and Hatshepsuut's personal cruiser (Hatshepsuut being my wife's character.)  Mastaba Ship PDF |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 2, 2016 21:58:38 GMT -9
After building the Federation ships, I saw a few errors that had crept into the designs. I have a revised PDF available now. |
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Post by Vermin King on Nov 5, 2016 10:13:39 GMT -9
Also, while looking for a simple, but not too simple, x-wing, I stumbled upon this from Jon Leslie's site: jleslie48.com/ejtt/Textures could be stepped up, but there is also another Space Battles rule set |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 5, 2016 12:29:36 GMT -9
Also, while looking for a simple, but not too simple, x-wing, I stumbled upon this from Jon Leslie's site: jleslie48.com/ejtt/Textures could be stepped up, but there is also another Space Battles rule set That is an awesome find, thank you! |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 14, 2016 1:54:53 GMT -9
Here we go, NCC-2000 U.S.S. Excelsior:  Excelsior PDFAnd here's a funny thing... I thought I was working in 1/5000 scale but things must have printed a little large because after I created this thing in 1/5000, I had to enlarge it quite a bit to match the rest of my paper Star Trek ships... closer to 1/3920, which is a really odd size. Oops. |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 16, 2016 14:28:35 GMT -9
I had also designed a vulcan ship with the ring-shaped warp nacelle. After printing it, I am afraid to touch it due to the very small size of the pieces. Fortunately, canon sources indicate that this basic design is used for ships of at least three different sizes, so I will scale these up to 125% and 150% to print next time, and then get them assembled.  |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 16, 2016 17:26:05 GMT -9
Excelsior, built!  My lamp over the table is giving the top surfaces some funky colours, though... |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 16, 2016 17:43:53 GMT -9
OK, so I decided to create my character's ship from the Star Trek Online MMORPG in 1/4000 scale to go with the rest of my fleet. This is the Pioneer-class from the game, not the "official" Star Trek universe. And as always, next to the Enterprise for comparison purposes.  One of the things I have learned from both this model and the Excelsior is that I really need to lighten up and increase contrast on my source images before I render them as kits. Both turned out a little (a lot?) darker than I had wanted or anticipated. |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 17, 2016 18:27:55 GMT -9
Also, I wouldn't be me, if I did not do something for a nicer gaming experience. So, I grabbed some of the minis already in this forum and modified them to be the ships from the playtest. In case of the Thunderchild, I made a new mini. They are 90% ready, I'll post the PDF in a few days. Till then have a pic of my prototype Thunderchild... Ermmm... "a few days?" Ya know, some of us live and die by the availablity of new papercraft Star Trek models... |
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Post by shep on Nov 18, 2016 0:06:45 GMT -9
Ho... slow down. Some of us have "real" lives aside from papercraft... I have some fiddly problems with the Intrepid Class ship. I'll post the PDF asap...  |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 18, 2016 0:09:51 GMT -9
Ho... slow down. Some of us have "real" lives aside from papercraft... I have some fiddly problems with the Intrepid Class ship. I'll post the PDF asap... Sorry, shep, I forgot to put the smiley  after that comment of mine. Of course there is no rush! |
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Post by shep on Nov 19, 2016 15:06:19 GMT -9
No worries, no offense taken here. My trouble with the Intrepid Class is that I did a 2.5D version, but want to add an actually curved saucer section. Now I started to mix my Intrepid with the one that was already posted in this thread, and hopefully in the end it will turn out like a mix of that Intrepid and my Discovery from Papercuts... However, with several reviews to be written (Polaris RPG, Mutant Year One, Star Wars Destiny) for a German print RPG mag, there's little to no time to work on my personal projects... |
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Post by hackbarth on Nov 20, 2016 3:02:21 GMT -9
No worries, no offense taken here. My trouble with the Intrepid Class is that I did a 2.5D version, but want to add an actually curved saucer section. Now I started to mix my Intrepid with the one that was already posted in this thread, and hopefully in the end it will turn out like a mix of that Intrepid and my Discovery from Papercuts... However, with several reviews to be written (Polaris RPG, Mutant Year One, Star Wars Destiny) for a German print RPG mag, there's little to no time to work on my personal projects... I suppose you meant mine Intrepid shep? cardboard-warriors.proboards.com/post/54005/threadI have a confession to make, I omitted all the glue tabs that I cut around the curved part of the dish. 20 or so of them, it was a fiddly thing to glue. Also, the engineering section is in the sheet, but it was so fiddly to build that I gave up on it, the ship sits better on a stand without it. |
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Post by shep on Nov 20, 2016 7:25:03 GMT -9
I suppose you meant mine Intrepid shep ? cardboard-warriors.proboards.com/post/54005/threadI have a confession to make, I omitted all the glue tabs that I cut around the curved part of the dish. 20 or so of them, it was a fiddly thing to glue. Also, the engineering section is in the sheet, but it was so fiddly to build that I gave up on it, the ship sits better on a stand without it. Yup, hackbarth , I meant yours. I ditched the engineering section as well, creating my usual side elevation in combination with a dorsal/ventral view. So, basically, the ship is ready to launch. However, I really like the 3D saucer, so I'm fiddling how to create that including the neck/back of the ship while keeping things simple... Well, I already have an idea, I just have to find some time to test it. |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 20, 2016 23:54:24 GMT -9
OK, so because I am a major Star Trek goob, I play "Star Trek: Timelines" on my phone every now and again. Tonight, my wife happened to notice and asked about the ship I was playing, which is a Constellation class (made famous by Picard's Stargazer.) She then asked why I hadn't made a model of it yet... CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!  In 1/4000 scale. I hope to print it tomorrow or Tuesday, along with a metric crap-ton of stuff I just discovered by hackbarth. I also think I got the coloring right so it doesn't turn out so dark like my Pioneer-class and Excelsior-class models. |
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Post by Parduz on Nov 22, 2016 1:17:03 GMT -9
As this thread seems like a "central hub" for Star Trek related stuffs, I think I should put my request here....
...to everyone that designs Ship models, may i ask for:
1) transparent, 300dpi PNGs of all your ships?
2) maybe already resized to a constant, coherent scale?
3) with single-pixel-wide, non-aliased folding lines?
4) without (or with a different colored) "flying support" (the part under the ship body)?
I'd like to build the ships and make a christmas gift for a friend. He's very ... nitpicking about the relative scale (nothing we can do about it, he's brain is just wired that way) so this is why i ask for 2.
About 1), i always use online photoprinting services, 'cause it costs about nothing and give me sturdy, solvent/superglue-resistant, rigid paper to work with. But the most cheap format is the 10x15cm photo, so i need to rearrange and realign all the various part to reduce the number of prints i need.
And 3) is 'cause it is much more easy, when aligning layers of the various minis parts, to just put a line over another instead of evaluatin what part of the antialiased pixels contains the "majority" of the line....
As I could choose to print everything at 50% or 75% of the original size, precision become a factor.
And 4) 'cause i think I'll use transparent plastic from scrapped packaging as "support".
Do you think it is possible?
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Post by shep on Nov 22, 2016 1:57:11 GMT -9
All my ships are created in 300dpi on A4 sheets with a scale of 1/5170 (based upon okumarts Constitution Class). You could use them as they are and simply cut off the flight stands, replacing them with clear plastic. The only scale exception is my USS Discovery. |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Nov 22, 2016 15:19:26 GMT -9
1) transparent, 300dpi PNGs of all your ships? I do 300dpi .PNGs of everything, but my attempts to render them transparent have been largely unsuccessful. I do everything in 1/4000 scale. It is a simple matter to resize them to 1/5000 scale to match up with shep's stuff. Buat again, I don't know how to render the .PNG transparent. I am all over the map in folding line width... because I take a lot of existing images and resize them mixing and matching with other images the fold lines go anywhere from 1 pixel to six pixels wide. I have no idea what alias or non-alias is, so I can't do that :-( It is a simple matter to remove flying stands from anything I am working with. The biggest problem facing me as a kit builder/designer is that I am just a tinkerer with the graphics programs. I have no real idea what I am doing, I just fiddle with it until it works. Scaling is another issue. I just found out today that the reason everything I had printed out came up as 1/4000 instead of 1/5000 (and subsequently convinced me to design in 1/4000) is that there seems to be some incompatibility in the sizing of A4 images and US Letter-sized images. I brought some stuff to my local Office Max today and it turned out poorly, the girl worked on the issue for me pro bono and said the difference in image sizes was causing the print differences. This may not be such an issue on a home printer. I guess the takeaway here is that I can resize everything to 1/5000 and remove the flight stands, but the images won't be transparent and the fold lines will be different sizes and either aliased or anti-aliased whichever they were before. Would you like me to render them for you? |
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Post by shep on Nov 22, 2016 21:17:13 GMT -9
Scaling is another issue. I just found out today that the reason everything I had printed out came up as 1/4000 instead of 1/5000 (and subsequently convinced me to design in 1/4000) is that there seems to be some incompatibility in the sizing of A4 images and US Letter-sized images. I brought some stuff to my local Office Max today and it turned out poorly, the girl worked on the issue for me pro bono and said the difference in image sizes was causing the print differences. This may not be such an issue on a home printer. If that's the entire problem, the workaround is easy. Simply open the A4 images on your computer. If I remember correctly, you use GIMP? Do the following: Create a new 300dpi US Letter sized image. Take one of the marquee tools and select and copy the parts of the minis on the A4 image. Paste to your US Letter image. Arrange the various layers. Save and then export as PDF. Don't forget to keep about a quarter inch white margin all around the sheet, so no parts of the minis get lost while printing. And that should be the solution to your problems. However, I can't imagine why scaling an A4 sheet to Letter should result in increasing the size of the pictures. Letter is only about .6 cm wider than A4, yet 1.76 cm shorter. So, scaling A4 to the width of Letter should result in losing quite a great deal of the original... |
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