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Post by Two foot Tom on Jun 3, 2009 11:16:15 GMT -9
ok, im not exactly new but i thought that i would post this here anyway. All my AS-level exams are now over (whew) and im back in the old paper model making game again. As you may all remember i am a little... um .... rusty at this and i mostly make 1:72 mods for the forums at Junior General but i am giving 30mm a shot and hoping for the best. Ok, so this is rough but this is the first time using corel and i am still lacking a scanner, so its getting there. So tell me what you think and be blunt...ish GO TO BOTTOM OF PAGE
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Jun 3, 2009 11:23:52 GMT -9
Hey Tom!
Welcome back!
I can definitely tell what you're going for here. Here are a few observations:
1. The torso is too long 2. The right uppe arm is too long 3. His sword arm looks a bit wonky
Hands and faces are the hardest things to recreate realistically. I would suggest tracing (and tracing, and tracing) some of Jim's figs to get your muscle memory kicking into high gear. Once this happens your muscles will 'remember' how to draw a hand (or whatever you're drawing) and the fig will eventually come together in proportion.
I think the key here is practicing.
onemonkeybeau
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Post by Two foot Tom on Jun 3, 2009 11:53:46 GMT -9
ok cheers mate thats really constructive stuff, at the moment i am having a go at a wizard and ...well lets just see what happens. I agree with your three points, i find arms quite hard to keep in perportion and i shall try that with the tracing Thank you very much
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Post by jabbro on Jun 3, 2009 14:21:50 GMT -9
Looks good for a first attempt. I agree with Beau, the proportions are a bit off. Something helpful that Jim provided is his figure poses. They are in vector format, so I do not know how Corel will handle them, but you should at least be able to cut rotate and paste to get your poses. Here is the thread: onemonk.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=templates&action=display&thread=920
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Post by Aestelon on Jun 3, 2009 14:40:30 GMT -9
A few handy rules of thumb re proportions:
The elbow usually falls roughly in line with the waist, or a hair higher. With the arm straight down, the hand usually falls about mid-thigh. The groin is a good halfway marker between the base of the feet and the top of the head.
Obviously if you're going for a more 'heroically-proportioned' style, these may change a little, but they're still a good guide.
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Post by old squirmydad on Jun 3, 2009 14:49:02 GMT -9
Stand up and let you arms hang down, take note of where they are. I know lots of beginning artists start thinking, when drawing things like arms, that it's too long and end up under-compensating and de-proportionalising them; they get nervous about the arm length and end up making the hands too small too. Open your hand and spread it over you face. Make a fist, hold it up next to your head, and look in a mirror. Then make the hand/fist you draw a little larger than that. Hope those help.
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Post by squirmydad on Jun 3, 2009 14:49:50 GMT -9
Corel can easily handle the vector designs. Just import the PDF, and you will have the editable objects to play with. JIM
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Post by kane on Jun 3, 2009 19:40:19 GMT -9
Elbow slightly above the waist and wrist at the crotch are good ways to remember proportion.
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Post by Two foot Tom on Jun 4, 2009 8:36:20 GMT -9
Wow thinks guys, this has been a great help. I shall print all that u have said out and go and sit with my lap top and corel and create some kick ass warriors..... well i shall probly start with politely nudge ass first and work my way up. I am pleased that u have all took time helping me with this and i shall try my best.
Thanks
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Post by Aestelon on Jun 4, 2009 9:00:54 GMT -9
"Politely nudge-arse"... I like that. ;D
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Post by jabbro on Jun 4, 2009 9:04:22 GMT -9
Poke, prod, or whatever you need to do, but never give up, and never surrender.
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Post by Two foot Tom on Jun 5, 2009 5:07:40 GMT -9
well said that man! ;D
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Post by jabbro on Jun 5, 2009 5:41:17 GMT -9
Twas a Tim Allen quote from Galaxy Quest. One of the best Sci Fi spoofs out there. I highly recommend it.
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Post by Two foot Tom on Jul 28, 2010 3:06:52 GMT -9
Ok folks im back. I have had a bit more time just recently as its the summer hols and i am awaiting my A level results so they are out the way. I finally posess a scanner and have been playing about with it quite alot. I have been sifting through the internet for good graphics software which won't empty my bank account and have finally settled with GIMP but i am still getting used to this program. The colouring part i am ok with but when it comes to layers and trying to move the front and back so they are on top of each other i go a bit kaput. (I didnt do A level ICT). I finally managed to get the front and back sides on the same sheet but i am still sorting out the base tab. I must say that i do feel that it is a vast improvement on my last attempt but with a scanner i can actually use my own drawings as a guideline. It seemed to take ages to do but here it is, a shabby peasant; after i finish this chap i have a billman and a handgunner in preparation. I am also planning some english civil war stuff as it is my favorite era. If i do get these done can i post them here? i know that this site is only generally for fantasy and sci fi and not historical. I do fantasy stuff as well as historical but i very rarely do sci fi as it isnt really my area of interest. Again; be fairly blunt
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Post by Two foot Tom on Jul 28, 2010 3:08:34 GMT -9
Oh yes and its a bit big; i am not sure how to re-scale it to 30mm sorry Oh and my nickname on here was Kalashnikov but it is now Two foot Tom
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Post by Two foot Tom on Jul 28, 2010 7:19:53 GMT -9
Sorry for posting 3 times in a row but here is the front veiw of the billman Oh and im off up north to Scotland on Friday so my apologies if i dont answer anyone's posts
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Post by Two foot Tom on Jul 28, 2010 9:53:04 GMT -9
Peasant = sorted I printed it via paint and it seemed to come out at 30mm but it could just be paint messing up for me. Are his feet a bit big?
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Post by Two foot Tom on Jul 28, 2010 10:50:02 GMT -9
Well im still going. Two models in one day isnt bad for me so here we are; please comment =
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Post by Two foot Tom on Jul 29, 2010 23:55:30 GMT -9
Ok folks im off to scotland; please feel free to leave comments, random insults or a cup of herbal tea for my return ... im not fussed
Thanks folks
I have scanned some more drawings for me to work on during those cold Scotish evenings
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Post by Two foot Tom on Aug 14, 2010 8:24:11 GMT -9
Ah right im back and wow, my own board; thank u very much. I have been designing while i was away but mostly 2cm stuff as i usually work in smaller scales. I have been doing digital work since i got home but having bought a few models on holiday i am also painting them. hopefully get some more stuff posted soon
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