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Post by Dave on Nov 6, 2010 13:17:31 GMT -9
So here's what I've come up with for cargo bales. These things really should be as ubiquitous on the gaming table as crates and casks.  These are the cargo types (labels) that I'm thinking of including: Coffee Corn Cotton Hemp Peanuts Pepper Rice Salt Tea Tobacco Wheat Wool Coarse If you can think of any other cargoes, by all means let me know. I think the cargo labels are what make these look convincing. Because of that, I'm going to look these up in French, Spanish and German. If I can find the pictograms in Japanese and Mandarin, I'll include some of those, too.
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Post by Sirrob01 on Nov 6, 2010 13:27:56 GMT -9
Generic Spice or Spices label?
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Post by Dave on Nov 6, 2010 13:49:36 GMT -9
I'll add:
Spice Cinnamon Beans Flour Sugar Seeds
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Post by afet on Nov 6, 2010 14:05:00 GMT -9
Looking good, Dave. May I suggest putting a couple straps around in the other direction as well?
Also, if I may, and this applies to the casks as well, I would love to not have the solid black lines along the scoring lines. It would be great to have dashed lines instead.
Cheers,
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Post by Dave on Nov 6, 2010 15:43:59 GMT -9
I knew something was missing! I've added strings going around both other ways. They'll be on optional layers so you can mix up the look of your bales a little bit more.
Right now I have most of the cargo types labeled in Dutch, English, French, German and Spanish. That should keep things interesting. I couldn't translate some of the words satisfactorily, so I just skipped the ones I was less sure about.
I think I'll add some documentation paste-ons, add a couple more base colors, and then start laying out the PDFs. There's probably not a lot more I can do with these anyway.
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Post by Dave on Nov 6, 2010 15:49:10 GMT -9
Also, if I may, and this applies to the casks as well, I would love to not have the solid black lines along the scoring lines. It would be great to have dashed lines instead. Well, the vote's now 1 to 1 on that issue. I've recently had someone else comment that they prefer the solid lines. What's the advantage of dashed lines over solid lines?
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Post by afet on Nov 6, 2010 17:27:35 GMT -9
Also, if I may, and this applies to the casks as well, I would love to not have the solid black lines along the scoring lines. It would be great to have dashed lines instead. Well, the vote's now 1 to 1 on that issue. I've recently had someone else comment that they prefer the solid lines. What's the advantage of dashed lines over solid lines? On pieces that in reality would have hard edges, the solid black lines are fine. But on pieces that are simulating curved surfaces, like the barrels and the cloth bales, I think it looks much better to not interrupt the "curved" surfaces with solid lines.
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Post by dcbradshaw on Nov 6, 2010 18:54:42 GMT -9
I know this is not necessarily the era you're looking to represent, but it might be good for some inspiration: www.1856.comIt's the website of the Steamboat Arabia Museum in Kansas City. Long story short, a sidewheeler bound for the frontier hit a tree snag and sank in shallow water just west of KC. By the 1980s, the river had moved so much that the final resting place of the Arabia was nearly a mile from the banks. In 1988, some adventure-seeking and industrious blue-collar guys with zero excavation or curating experience dug up the remains, something like 200+ tons of 1850s cargo, settled some 50-60 feet below the surface, perfectly preserved in the anerobic environment. This boat had everything: hardware, tools, clothes, building supplies, food, bartering goods, barrels, pretty much anything you could imagine heading for the frontier in pre-Civil War West. There is a small gallery on their homepage, but they do allow photography in some areas of the museum, so a google image search may turn up some good pics too.
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Post by afet on Nov 7, 2010 6:19:31 GMT -9
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Post by Dave on Nov 7, 2010 8:09:08 GMT -9
I've got all the main cargoes covered, then. I figure it doesn't hurt to have a lot more to choose from. Some of the labels might be in a language you or your players don't understand, so they could be anything.  For other container types, I'm thinking about these: Bolts of canvas/cloth Chests/trunks/crates Large brewing casks Sacks Stacks of lumber Straw/hay bales Tree logs
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Post by Tommygun on Nov 7, 2010 8:48:37 GMT -9
Large Cheese wheels? Attachments:
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Post by Dave on Nov 7, 2010 10:40:13 GMT -9
Haha! Cheese wheels are a great idea.
Afet, I think you're right. The good news is that I'd created some smaller (and squarish) bales before I moved onto the angled-edges version. Most of the goods that wouldn't have been found in a large bale probably would have been found in something smaller. So I can salvage most of the names (which I've already created graphics for) and provide a second bale type. Win-win!
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Post by Dave on Nov 7, 2010 21:12:34 GMT -9
The Cargo Bales set is now available! 
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Post by Tommygun on Nov 11, 2010 12:57:42 GMT -9
Pick these up the other day. I'm trying to mix them in with the SciFi cargo. I thinking tea and tobacco will work, but hemp will take on a whole new meaning on a SciFi cargo ship.
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