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Post by dcbradshaw on Jul 14, 2011 8:14:01 GMT -9
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Post by stevelortz on Jul 14, 2011 8:25:15 GMT -9
I've been a fan of John Carter for nearly fifty years now. I've seen a lot of hack versions. This one looks good!
Have fun!
Steve
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Post by Tommygun on Jul 14, 2011 18:11:28 GMT -9
Yes, that looks good.
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Post by hackbarth on Jul 15, 2011 11:10:13 GMT -9
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Post by stevelortz on Jul 15, 2011 17:26:15 GMT -9
The best metal miniatures I know of that are currently available are Bob Charrette's Parroom Station figures: www.parroom.net/PSM_catalog/PSCat_CDC.htmlCheck out the germ plasm warriors/wastelanders! Have fun! Steve |
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Post by glennwilliams on Jul 20, 2011 15:06:55 GMT -9
At least the green martians have the right number of arms! Pixar's involvement is promising, but with Disney involved, Dejah Thoris won't be appropriately dressed--but that's OK as my grandson will be seven next summer. On my things to see list.
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Post by dcbradshaw on Jul 20, 2011 16:07:14 GMT -9
...but with Disney involved, Dejah Thoris won't be appropriately dressed... HA--"appropriately" dressed. When people unfamiliar ask me if this looks true to the book (because I've been showing this trailer to anyone that will sit still for more than a minute) I say, "Well, all except for one minor detail concerning mass nudity..." |
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Post by hackbarth on Jul 20, 2011 16:26:30 GMT -9
Keeps the interest in the book alive, at least!
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Post by glennwilliams on Jul 21, 2011 6:52:19 GMT -9
Reminds me. I've got to get back to reading them. I left Dejah Thoris in the revolving tower trap.
One thing Burroughs did above all was make his books entertaining. After grad school in English, I'm really tired of supposed sci-fi books that need me to understand the point they're making.
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Post by tirick on Jul 21, 2011 15:23:59 GMT -9
Seeing this trailing made me awfully reminiscent. It has been 20 years and this is still one of my favorite series.
It really does look to me like someone who loved the books was involved, and if nudity has to suffer for a story true to Burroughs' vision, well so be it.
Tirick
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Post by Parduz on Jul 22, 2011 1:04:00 GMT -9
I don't know NOTHING about this.... am i just ignorant, or is it an "US-only" thing?
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Post by Tommygun on Jul 22, 2011 12:01:40 GMT -9
I don't know NOTHING about this.... am i just ignorant, or is it an "US-only" thing? Nudity? I'm pretty sure that exist outside the US. ;D |
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Post by glennwilliams on Jul 23, 2011 6:38:42 GMT -9
I don't know NOTHING about this.... am i just ignorant, or is it an "US-only" thing? The John Carter books were Burroughs' pre-Tarzan books (1910s). So, they're actually pre-Conan as well. |
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Post by tirick on Jul 27, 2011 0:39:12 GMT -9
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarsoomMassively influential books (and a great read). Project Gutenburg has the whole series if you can't find a published copy. The first book is called 'Princess of Mars' ( www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/62 ), I'm not certain why they changed the title, but it seems clear this movie is based on Princess. Tirick
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Post by stevelortz on Jul 27, 2011 6:13:09 GMT -9
I don't know NOTHING about this.... am i just ignorant, or is it an "US-only" thing? Edgar Rice Burroughs wrote "A Princess of Mars" before World War I. Through some sort of "transmigration", John Carter arrived on Mars with his Earth body intact. Since Earth's gravity is about two-and-a-half times more powerful than Mars', John Carter was about two-and-a-half times stronger than any of the Martians, or Barsoomians, as they call themselves. When Siegel and Shuster invented Superman in 1932, it was John Carter in reverse. Kal-El (Superman/Clark Kent's real name) was born on Krypton, under the influence of a red sun. When the infant Kal-El arrived on Earth, he had "super" powers, similar to those of John Carter on barsoom, due to the influence of Earth's yellow sun. Over the years, Superman's powers increased, seemingly exponentially! Flash Gordon's adventures on Mongo are not quite direct swipes from John Carter. Have fun! Steve |
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Post by Parduz on Jul 27, 2011 11:12:04 GMT -9
Woah. Thanks.
Like for music and movies, i rarely can stand old books.
So, i think that the eldest of my sci-fi books is something written in the '40... and i already remember it for "tasting old".
So, i know nothing about this really. I know Burroughs 'cause my father had that famous Tarzan comic books ("Bundolo!!!") when i was a kid, but the only Tarzan movie i can watch is the one with Cristoph Lambert, the others already are "too old".
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Post by stevelortz on Jul 27, 2011 19:05:06 GMT -9
The Tarzan of the books is NOTHING like the Tarzan of the movies! In one of the books, Tarzan was in Hollywood and he auditioned to play Tarzan in a movie. He was rejected because he wasn't the type they were looking for. That was how Edgar Rice Burroughs expressed his opinion of the movie Tarzan.
Tarzan was the heir of Lord Greystoke, an English nobleman. Because he was raised by the apes, his inherited nobility was not corrupted by civilization. He was brilliant and articulate. As a youth in the jungle, he learned to speak the languages of the animals and of the native humans. He taught himself to read and write English from children's books his parents had brought with them, but he couldn't understand spoken English in the first book. The first European language he learned to speak was French.
If it came to it, he could kill a lion with nothing more than his daggar and bare hands (and bare feet, as well), but he understood people very well, and he could come up with clever strategies in all sorts of situations, not just in the jungle.
In my opinion, none of the movies or TV shows or comics have ever done the Tarzan of the books justice, but I don't know if he translates well into Italian. The English the books are written in seems sort of antique now, like a relic of the Edwardian period.
Have fun!
Steve
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Post by glennwilliams on Jul 28, 2011 5:29:20 GMT -9
FWIW, I saw Capt America the other day at my local megaplex, and one of the posters in the hallway was for John Carter--just the JCM logo. Strangely, no posters or previews for Conan which is due out next month.
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Post by dcbradshaw on Jul 28, 2011 6:21:12 GMT -9
Yeah, I've noticed a distinct lack of Conan promotions... And I work for a movie exhibitor.
I really, really, want it to be good, but the relative low amount of promotion doesn't make me very optimistic...
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Post by Parduz on Jul 28, 2011 10:30:04 GMT -9
Yeah, I've noticed a distinct lack of Conan promotions... And I work for a movie exhibitor. I really, really, want it to be good, but the relative low amount of promotion doesn't make me very optimistic... For what i've seen from the trailer, it's more "Prince fo Persia on Steroid" than Conan. I mean, Conan is BIG and LARGE, and nordic. This new actor is not enough big and large, and it's clear that he's not nordic. Conan did'nt dodge blades with acrobatic moves.... he took everything without care about... this one is flipping on the air dodging tiny blades.... to me, this new movie fails just 'cause it pretends to be about Conan. We're going a lot OT, anyway  |
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Post by tirick on Jul 29, 2011 14:14:35 GMT -9
Oh he's big enough. He played Khal Drogo in the HBO series Game of Thrones. He's huge (193 cm).
Conan is not Norse, he's "Cimmerian", more of a Ukrainian/Black Sea heritage, or Gallic.
Conan is also repeatedly described as athletic and nimble in Howard's tellings. Arnold's portrayal is not really very accurate.
Tirick
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Post by glennwilliams on Jul 30, 2011 15:59:34 GMT -9
Like the James Bond books, someday the Conan and John Carter books will make good movies. The long trailer that had young Conan killing bad guys while keeping the egg in his mouth was pretty much in keeping with the feel of the Conan books (Howard's, not the johnnie-come-latelies). As for John Carter, we'll see. Pixar guarantees it'll be a good movie, but will it be John Carter of Mars?
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