No Gradients were used in the coloring of this figure
And this fact actually raises the quality level of this figure without doubt. I mean, you are on the track to PAINT your figure with raw artistic power. This is great. Look at his trousers. Those shades are really well done. And don't worry about some sloppiness of the backside shadows: this scale is very forgiving and higher contrasts are actually better ... . Like his keep-my-hand-near-belt-pose and his water-blue eyes sparkling in the shadow. Classy. I would offer him the star.
Cowboy, for whatever reason you included the comment, I appreciate it. Thanks for really looking. I'm striving to create the best looking, most historically accurate Wild West paper figures I can. Anything that makes them better is a good thing.
As far as the "no gradients"... I feel like I was using them as a crutch and limiting myself to whatever shading I could get the machine to do for me. Part of this was proving to myself I didn't have to use them. It took longer, but its okay. I know I can do it without them. Now, I can use them if they work for me, instead of letting the program create my art for me, and forcing a look I'm not happy with. Make any sense at all?
Paladin, thanks man. I'm very happy with the trousers, and the holster. Good poses are something I'm having trouble with. I'm trying to come up with dynamic poses without looking too comic book or anime. By that I mean poses that actual real people would be in. There is one I'm trying to do that I keep seeing, its in a Remington work, and its also mirrored in film in the movie "Appaloosa". One day I hope to find the right perspective to make it work.
The truth is, this is me using OkumArts line style with Labrat style shading, and Darkmook type faces. Or trying to anyway. I'd love to be able to draw the way they do. I try, but it looks... umm... bad. So I do what I do.
I think you captured this subtle "attention" pose and proportions quite well - and we're thinking along the same line in regard to historical references, I suppose, Revgunn. If you have seen my Wheelchair-General from the Hoard - this one I ripped and modified from a historical pic of a real General of the CW (Major General Daniel Sickles). Comic is one thing I would never diss, but using contemporary source material as reference, man, this gives some different vibes! Same holds true for "authentic" medieval outfits and armory/weaponry. Looking and feeling quite different from fantasy stock types ... . But could be painful and confusing to reconstruct, though there are tons of good books about historical costumes out there.
I don't intend to diss comic book type looks at all. One thing I dearly love about Dave Okum's style is the poses he uses. The implication of motion and action. I find myself watching Westerns over again, looking at how the actors move during the gun fights. I want to add that to my figures. This guy has a "ready, just about to draw" type vibe. Then, trying to balance that out with not making something impossible to cut out.
I'm really happy with how this one is turning out.
I hadn't realized you used a historical figure for that Wheelchair General. I really like that figure btw.
In a lot of my previous work, I drew the West as I knew it, by how it looks NOW, living and growing up around cowboys, etc. I want to get the clothing more correct. This way, when I add steam-punk elements or whatever "modern" type inspiration, it looks correct even as it is anachronistic.
Sadly, a lot of the clothing worn in the 1870's and 1880's was pretty boring by our standards. I figure if I can get the correct "cut", I can then maybe jazz it up some as far as color.
Sadly, a lot of the clothing worn in the 1870's and 1880's was pretty boring by our standards.
That's why Major General Sickles is so dark as I painted him ... .
Ok. You are completely on the right track, if you are studying actor poses. That's the hardcore way. If you want, you can use still shots and turn them into miniatures. But once Okum told the crowd of this forum one thing (long time ago, he said it to Jim, if I remember ...): learn anatomy, learn drawing poses. Okum knows, what he is telling. He teaches this stuff at university. There is no way to take a shortcut. If you want to get close to Okum's level, you have to study this painful anatomy thing, at least enough for this 30mm-scale. Look at Okum's Fighting Monk sketches - you can clearly see his approach of forming the body shapes and volumes with his graphite.
Gracias Mr Labrat. Its the mustache. Makes people look angry.
Wow Parduz. I like the coat tail a lot. I'll likely steal that. I see that I did forget the back of his collar. I do however, intensely dislike your shortening of his neck. Oh well. Your version is your version.
Kiladecus... dude. 9? Okay. I'll try. Its entirely possible of you don't mind re-colors of previous figures. I've been working on Saloon girls. Also, Western Zombies. Also mounted figures. I'm thinking of a "PC Set" type format, like umm... Julie Guthrie, and was it Grenadier? Used to do back in the day, with a mounted figure, an on foot figure, and I was gonna add a pose with weapons out. I'm likely letting my ambitions overload my capabilities. We'll see how it turns out.
Oh my ears and whiskers how did I miss this? Looks really good. With this and the steampunk stuff I may have to start my western campaign up again. Hmm... I need a crapload of Lakota Warriors first. (looks at drawing table)...
I wouldn't sweat the length of the neck. Some guys are going to have proportionately longer necks than Eastwood and some things need to be exagerated to be seen at scale.
I concour. The neck was'nt wrong or too long. It is just that, with a "lowered head" i have more a "caution/ready" feel from the pose.... hard to explain.... like if, after that time when he stare in your eyes (original drawing) he's about to move the hand toward the Colt, so he's raising the shoulders and lowering the head...a matter of a pair of frames
About Clint, while the figure reminds me that image, i'm not using him as a model... but after revgunn comment i wanted to check, and it happened that the two images matched..... so i've drag a pair of guide lines and take a screenshot just to make a joke
stoff: These are the versions that i was talking about.
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squirmydad: That's okay, so is the IRS. I'm pretty sure my tax return is one of the millions stored in trailers and unprocessed.
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okumarts: My taxes are still at the accountant. They are backlogged.
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Vermin King: Well, my day has been spent on work and taxes. Am I the last forum member to do their 2019 taxes?
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Vermin King: It does help keep you from picking up unintended hitchhiker files, though. It would be better if they gave a notification that you are attempting to download multiple files and to check the box in front of each file you wish to download
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Vermin King: Not all progress is beneficial...
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cowboyleland: I see now. Some new upgrade (windows? chrome?) blocks downloads of "multiple files" at a time. The miniscule notification that the download was blocked appears in the corner of the screen for a fraction of a second. "They" call this progress.
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cowboyleland: Hm. Ok, turns out I have it on a back-up drive already anyway.
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Vermin King: Worked fine here
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Punkrabbitt: It's working fine for me o.0
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cowboyleland: For some reason Hoard 93 isn't downloading for me. No error message, just nothing happens when I click.
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Vermin King: Extreme localized flooding sucks ... if it is centered over you
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