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Post by old squirmydad on Dec 23, 2011 23:25:00 GMT -9
I'm on leave for Christmas so I'm finishing old projects, and dabbling in new ones... Very much a work in progress, mainly did this version to see what sorts of problems to expect with an oversized ship model design. The masts are obviously Grendel's, just desaturated and resized for the test-build. Quite a bit of reworking to do, some through lack of attention in the design and some just because when I got to to the actual build portion I was at the bottom the Belgian dark beer I'd been drinking... Seems like a possibility though. I'll drink less beer the next time I work on this. ;D
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Post by oldschooldm on Dec 23, 2011 23:55:19 GMT -9
Ooh! Me likey!
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Post by kiladecus on Dec 24, 2011 3:20:39 GMT -9
Wow! That looks great, like all of your work. According to the Smuggler's Rowboat showed for scale, I am assuming that this is roughly the size of Dave's Patrol Boat?
All of my Okumarts Ninjas and Samurai just said, "Looks like we get to make it to the Mortal Kombat tournament afterall!"
Seriously. Awesome!
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Post by okumarts on Dec 24, 2011 4:13:35 GMT -9
Wow. That is so impressive. I really like the junk look. I ran a James Bond rpg adventure set in hong kong once that featured a chase scene jumping from junk to junk. This reminds me of that.
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Post by dcbradshaw on Dec 24, 2011 7:59:49 GMT -9
This is fantastic, please, please continue it!
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Post by old squirmydad on Dec 24, 2011 10:09:55 GMT -9
Actually Kil, that's the patrol boat off the stern. This junk is twice the length of the patrol boat. So once I sobered up I looked at it again and I see a few ways to move forward that will make it easier; for starters, I'm going to break it into three sections-bow, midship, stern. Needs a master template for a footprint so that it can be mounted on foamcore/cardstock for rigidity and stability, the mast bases will get a reinforcer (I always have issues with masts), and some of the decking needs to be leveled out to make it more playable. The other thing about breaking it up into three sections is it makes the possibility of different styles of bow and stern combinations much easier-like a more square bow section instead of the pointy version that I used.
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Post by kiladecus on Dec 25, 2011 4:47:08 GMT -9
WOW! That must be HUGE then!
My mistake
By having the boat in three sections, it reminds me of a LEGO boat I had as a kid. The boat was divided into three pieces (as you have suggested) and you could put all three together, or eliminate the middle section and use just the bow and stern for a shorter version of the boat.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 26, 2011 19:54:15 GMT -9
I have been looking for a junk for ages. Definitely wishing you the best with this. One thing I tried on masts that seems to work is to have the deck of the boat and base of the boat separate. Glue the mast 'base end' to the base of the boat, then have a hole in the deck for the mast and lower the deck with the mast protruding. Then glue a base piece around the mast to the deck. Might be more trouble than what you want to do, but it really helps to give the masts stability.
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Post by old squirmydad on Dec 26, 2011 23:36:54 GMT -9
I have been looking for a junk for ages. Definitely wishing you the best with this. One thing I tried on masts that seems to work is to have the deck of the boat and base of the boat separate. Glue the mast 'base end' to the base of the boat, then have a hole in the deck for the mast and lower the deck with the mast protruding. Then glue a base piece around the mast to the deck. Might be more trouble than what you want to do, but it really helps to give the masts stability. Stolen! ;D
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 27, 2011 5:47:34 GMT -9
Great. It should make the mast fairly stable. This looks like one of the later junks. Early 1800s and older usually had a bow that is reminiscent of a flatboat. Narrow, but still squared off.
Anxiously awaiting.
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Post by old squirmydad on Dec 27, 2011 8:19:24 GMT -9
Great. It should make the mast fairly stable. This looks like one of the later junks. Early 1800s and older usually had a bow that is reminiscent of a flatboat. Narrow, but still squared off. Anxiously awaiting. Actually the pointy bow is because it's based off of a Vietnamese instead of a Chinese design. That's one of the reasons I'm considering the modular approach; so I can have both the boxy and pointy designs. I've switched gears and I'm working up a Sampan right now. Mainly so I can get my texture "looks" in place on a smaller scale. It's going well.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 27, 2011 9:56:06 GMT -9
This is an old model from l'Imagerie de Epinal from the late 1800s to early 1900s, not sure of the date on this one. Attachments:
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Post by oldschooldm on Dec 27, 2011 10:20:05 GMT -9
This is an old model from l'Imagerie de Epinal from the late 1800s to early 1900s, not sure of the date on this one. I found a copy of this - has anyone built it?
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 27, 2011 10:24:44 GMT -9
Yeah, it's just a little fishing boat. Kind of interesting little build. What I would like to see is something along these lines
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Post by old squirmydad on Dec 27, 2011 10:59:48 GMT -9
Me too. I need to work my way up to a big project like that though.
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Post by old squirmydad on Dec 27, 2011 21:50:27 GMT -9
Sampan wip; Started texturing, caught myself, made a test-build, found a few issues that are easy fixes. Still need to make a small mast, small sails, a steering pole, and some little bamboo and wicker coverings.
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Post by afet on Dec 28, 2011 7:38:42 GMT -9
This looks fantastic, Squirmydad! I'm looking forward to seeing this project come to together.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 28, 2011 7:49:06 GMT -9
Very nice. Will it come in both a peasant version and nobleman's version?
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Post by old squirmydad on Dec 28, 2011 10:46:58 GMT -9
Very nice. Will it come in both a peasant version and nobleman's version? Huh. Hadn't even thought of that. To me the sampan is a workhorse, so I've been thinking in terms of grunge and distress. What would differentiate a nobleman's sampan? Other than not being covered in s--t? Nicer frame for the covering with gold filigree around the edges?
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Post by mruseless on Dec 28, 2011 12:39:39 GMT -9
These look great...
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 28, 2011 16:39:25 GMT -9
Perhaps I should have said 'ceremonial' sampan. I'm sure you've seen enough chinatown festival clips in movies and such to have ideas. I seem to remember a painting somewhere in which a southeast asian noble was being promoted to a higher position over several other nobles. The boat he was in was basically a sampan that was brightly painted red and yellow, with a squared off wooden lattice 'cabin' instead of the bamboo quonset hut things ... just pick some colors that you would see in a Chinese New Year celebration.
Or I could shut up now ...
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Post by old squirmydad on Dec 28, 2011 19:06:04 GMT -9
Hmm, that sounds do-able.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 28, 2011 19:20:59 GMT -9
Woo Hoo! I'm glad I didn't shut up, then
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Post by old squirmydad on Dec 28, 2011 21:53:57 GMT -9
No worries.
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Post by kiladecus on Dec 29, 2011 3:43:18 GMT -9
Looking forward to these! I may have to try a water-based version of ERA oF WAR! How cool would THAT be! My Xiarn Dynast traversing the waters to collide with enemy forces... I could have islands with objectives that have to be recovered... I think I will take VK's advise and try something new... Great work!
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 29, 2011 6:24:53 GMT -9
Where I really got caught up in Oriental stuff was how I would really like to see a pirate game set in the Orient, with British and Dutch colonials and of course their battleships, and the Opium Wars, and all of that. Late 1800s. Waterfront towns with a mix of Victorian and Oriental buildings. Some small bases for the pirate bands, and then some open water gameplay between the ships. Not necessarily warship to warship, but also taking over merchant ships. My uncle used to play a lot of ship to ship battle games, yet I never saw one take place in Southeast Asia in the 1800s.
Enough of soiling up the thread, though.
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Post by old squirmydad on Jan 14, 2012 16:32:14 GMT -9
Still working on these, slowly, been exhausted from work, got a three day weekend to relax and finish some things though. Also found these old prototypes of 1/600 dhows;
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Post by oldschooldm on Jan 14, 2012 17:33:09 GMT -9
Drool. You need someone to make your cutfiles for you?
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Post by old squirmydad on Jan 14, 2012 18:24:40 GMT -9
Drool. You need someone to make your cutfiles for you? Ha! That's the easiest part of the process. Texturing is the slowest and the test-builds are something that I creep through as I'm checking alignments and making notes as I go. Thanks though.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 16, 2012 9:52:12 GMT -9
oo ... last day of three day weekend. don't let me disturb you ...
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