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Post by jeffgeorge on Aug 7, 2017 19:30:46 GMT -9
WOW! Let me know when I can buy these guys! That being said, I'd love an option to have black outlines around the figures. Yes...a black-outline option would be a BIG selling point. When I get minis without the black outline, I have to go in to an image editor (GIMP, usually) and add it, which is a big hurdle for most customers.  Also, I should point out something regarding your map (which looks great, btw). In English, "barf" means the same thing as "vomit." If "Barf-Djat" means something important in your native language, or in a made-up language in your game world, you may not want to change it, but I thought you should know that every English-speaker (at least in North America) playing this game is going to think "throw-up" every time he sees "Barf-Djat" on the map. |
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Post by Tengel on Aug 8, 2017 1:07:25 GMT -9
Hi!
Actually, there ARE outlines on the figures to cut them off. It's essentual because face and backsides of the figures don't completely fit each other.
Barf-Djat in the game-world language means "Great Wastelands", nothing more. It doesn't mean anything in Russian.
So, what if we would change into "Baarth-Djat"? Does that look neutrally?
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Post by tomoko on Aug 8, 2017 1:23:59 GMT -9
jeffgeorge, thank you for your comments. Language in Continent is sort of cryptophasia, all words on map are neologisms in the spirit of local dialects. I tryed to catch all words, that have obscene meaning. But not all these words I can know. Thank you for your advice, I will change name of region little bit for breaking negative association. In local languages Barf-Djat means "Dead Lands", large tundra territory with very low population (only dangerous stranders live here)
okumarts, jeffgeorge, if it realy so important I will add dark outline. To be honest, I can not imagine "steel" miniatures with black outline. Maybe because I'm used to white outline for more than 10 years and it became an unspoken rule for me. My be it just a my habit (I can not get rid of the feeling that black outline "eats" silhouette of a miniature). But in release will version with dark gray outlines.
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Post by jeffgeorge on Aug 8, 2017 5:49:17 GMT -9
Having trimmed out literally thousands of paper minis at this point, with black borders, white borders, and every other kind of border anyone has thought to put on them, my experience is this: White borders draw attention to themselves on the table, separating the mini from whatever terrain or background it is seen against. Black borders disappear against the terrain or background, so you forget they are even there. This may seem counter-intuitive, since a wide black border is very obvious before the figure is trimmed out, while it is seen on the solid white background of the cardstock, but once it gets to the table, the situation reverses--the white border calls attention to itself, while the black background is all but invisible. Here are two similar figures from printableheroes that I finished out, one with a black border, and one with a white border.  These are from Marshall's early releases, before he started adding the black border, so I added the border to the one on the left, using GIMP, before I printed it out. I've placed them on a green felt background, which I think is a pretty common color for a gaming table surface. See how the black border is almost unnoticeable, while the white border puts a bright edge around the figure? And I think the effect is stronger at normal viewing distance than it is in this close-up photo--to simulate that, look at this picture at a small size, or from far away. And now that I see these two minis next to each other, I see that the white border just reminds us that the one on the right is paper, while the black border just makes the figure itself stand out more brightly. What I'd recommend is a border of about 1.5mm around the front side, and 2.5 or 3mm around the back of the miniature. This difference allows the customer to trim around the front side leaving a 1mm border, with plenty of margin on the back side to allow for imperfections in alignment, whether from differences in the front and back silhouettes, or from slight errors in folding. I hope this helps make clear what okumarts and I are talking about. I look forward to your minis, no matter what you decide! |
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Post by jeffgeorge on Aug 8, 2017 5:51:45 GMT -9
Hi! Actually, there ARE outlines on the figures to cut them off. It's essentual because face and backsides of the figures don't completely fit each other. Barf-Djat in the game-world language means "Great Wastelands", nothing more. It doesn't mean anything in Russian. So, what if we would change into "Baarth-Djat"? Does that look neutrally? "Baarth-Djat" means nothing in English, so it should be safe (at least for English-speaking gamers!). It also looks and sounds more exotic, which helps emphasize the imaginary world you're creating. |
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Post by tomoko on Aug 8, 2017 6:32:08 GMT -9
jeffgeorge, thank you for your your great detailed response.
I will try to find the best option. In extreme cases, I'll add in set with two options at the same time.
Also thank you for the tip with different outline sizes in front and behind the miniature. I did not know about it. I will gradually rework everything
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Post by tom on Sept 3, 2017 5:32:23 GMT -9
Hi all,
Can some one please explain as to why, Tomoko's VK page will not accept my mobile phone number to join so as to download the card models as, it will insist that my phone number is wrong and not an actual UK number??, be assured, it most certainly is, what do i do to get this sorted please and many thanks for any help.........
Regards........Tom.........
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 4, 2017 11:41:49 GMT -9
I have no clue. Sorry
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Post by tom on Sept 4, 2017 13:02:21 GMT -9
Vermin King, hi there my friend, i have just, now, got to join the VK site, just had to go via Facebook and then all seemed to click together, so, all`s well that ends well lol lol.........
Grateful thanks and best regards to all.........Tom....
PS, if any one is interested in the fact that, i am using max 2014 pepakura 64 bit and PSP X 9, just in case i can be of assistance in what ever is being concocted re:- games and models figures etc......
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Post by isman7 on Mar 7, 2018 18:56:27 GMT -9
I know this is a long shot, but does anyone on this thread (or the forums) have the files to this incredible project? I want to play this game with these miniatures! For good measure, I followed all of his links, even registered to the VK site, but I have had no luck.
I reached out to Tomoko directly but he hasn't logged on in almost a year. I just hope this amazing stuff isn't lost.
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Post by tomoko on Apr 23, 2018 5:54:22 GMT -9
Hello friends! Steel Warriors still alive. vk.com/steel_warriors_battle_for_empireNow at facebook too www.facebook.com/swbfeUnfortunately, I did not manage to start releasing figures at the end of last year, because I changed jobs and moved to another city. Now I want to finish the last 72 figures and already I will calmly deal with the design and release of albums The development of infantry figures is approaching the finish line, ready 466/538 figures. Some pictures of new miniatures Lianrian characters  Legion of Freedom  Hobos (bomzhi)  pilots of Otlok and Keno  Civilians of Keno  Kenoitian guerilla  Voices of Silence  Night Ghosts  Ash-Rohr tank  Ash-Rohr tank  Guardian Ash-Rohr  Kenoitian characters  Ammunition  Alanian paratroopers  |
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Post by okumarts on Apr 23, 2018 18:19:30 GMT -9
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Post by uptrainfan89 on Apr 24, 2018 11:05:59 GMT -9
Very Nice! Also where might one find all these goodies?  |
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Post by tomoko on Apr 24, 2018 12:42:54 GMT -9
uptrainfan89, I hope that we will release some albums on the Wargame Vault this year. I'm afraid to give some specific forecasts for the dates, because I rarely fit into the terms. Materials must be formalized and designed, we need to make a few illustrations. I do not know how long this time will take :-(
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Post by uptrainfan89 on Apr 24, 2018 13:18:08 GMT -9
Nice, well I'll definitely keep an eye out for them! Have to say they look really nicely done and will make a nice addition to my sci-fi/near future games when released! Also just cause I'm a little new jumping into this thread is everything you've made so far to be released this year or is there sets out already, sorry for my confusion?  |
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Post by tomoko on Apr 26, 2018 2:04:37 GMT -9
uptrainfan89 no problem! The main problem of my project is that he's been working too long. Therefore, I want to finish the infantry in the first place. This is the most difficult and time consuming part of the project. It's hard to believe, but it's much easier and faster to create model a vehicle than infantry. To complete the remaining miniatures of the infantry, I need a few months (last 72 figures) Shock infantry of Otlok is at the finalization stage. I need to finish the reverse side. I will postpone this work at the beginning of May. Here is a graphical table of the work process. List dont contain terrain, fx, corpses and other environment elmnts 
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Post by uptrainfan89 on Apr 26, 2018 3:56:52 GMT -9
Wow that's a lot of projects! I can definitely see why it will still take a while before it's all ready. Will make for an epic release when it is tho! |
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 26, 2018 4:20:44 GMT -9
tomoko, are you doing this with only you as artist, or do you have a team working on it?
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Post by tomoko on Apr 26, 2018 4:50:01 GMT -9
uptrainfan89, absolutly! Vermin King, we work in pair, me and Tengel. I draw miniatures and models, Tengel create setting
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 26, 2018 4:56:45 GMT -9
Vermin King, we work in pair, me and Tengel. I draw miniatures and models, Tengel create setting That is a lot of design work for one person. I humbly bow to you |
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Post by okumarts on Apr 26, 2018 5:07:15 GMT -9
I can hardly wait for these minis.
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Post by tomoko on Apr 26, 2018 5:25:25 GMT -9
Vermin King, thank you! To be honest, Im a hostage of steel warriors. I cant leave it, but it too far to finish in general. It strongly suppres me. Current iteration of miniatures is the sixth. I have poduce last itteration since 2015. Early five iterations - since 2007 (archives 2007, 2008-2009, 2010 microscale, 2011 and 2013) I hope current iteration is final. I think, I can't complete absolutly all points. SW will uncompleted, I sure. After SW I will never-never to create miniatures, I promise Or only little sets, not huge projects
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Post by uptrainfan89 on Apr 26, 2018 5:29:54 GMT -9
I 2nd okumarts, they will definitely see a lot of use on the tabletop! |
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Post by okumarts on Apr 26, 2018 5:34:43 GMT -9
I'm excited about the vehicles and the partisans mostly.
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Post by tomoko on Apr 26, 2018 14:09:02 GMT -9
Alanian Huntsmans  Alanian pilots  |
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Post by uptrainfan89 on Apr 26, 2018 14:33:54 GMT -9
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Post by Rhannon on Apr 26, 2018 21:40:42 GMT -9
"Steel Warriors" is not just a few low sci-fi paper minis' sets series. "Steel Warriors" is a whole world. With Lore, history, rules ( and buildings, vehicles, counters ... ) ...
A truly great project that one/two persons have been carrying out for years. Wonderful! :-)
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Post by uptrainfan89 on Apr 27, 2018 4:17:20 GMT -9
I'm definitely super hyped for it all looking through all the pictures, it really is an outstandingly awesome looking and massive project that you can tell a lot of hard work has went into! I absolutely love the art style of the minis too!  |
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Post by tomoko on May 5, 2018 2:53:51 GMT -9
"Fury of Emperor" - high-toxic corrosive acid "Alcakhest". It is available only in the assault troops of Keno  |
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Post by uptrainfan89 on May 5, 2018 4:13:42 GMT -9
Very nice, they look so awesome!!! |
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Sooooo want!!! 
