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Post by uptrainfan89 on Sept 8, 2018 15:32:05 GMT -9
So awesome!!! I'm Really excited!!!!
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Post by Tengel on Sept 9, 2018 3:27:34 GMT -9
Great product! 29 pages with setting, lore ... 35 unique paper minis, 2 vehicles ... a very good pdf document ... maybe a little too cheap :-) Overall definitely a great quality product. Congratulations to both.:-) Thanks for congratulations :-) And about "cheapness", we are working to fix this problem :-) That's only starter set on starter cost. Next sets will be 5$ for a unit of infantry and 7$ -- for a model. Each set would also contain two texts of lore (one about the item inside, and the other -- with general notes about the setting) and one or two drawn scetches.
And I don't think it's a good idea to make black outlines for the figures. They are warriors of a modern type, so, they wear uniforms of camouflage colours (which are rather fade). Fade figures on the green, gray, and brown terrain of battlefield would be seen worse (as their camoflaging uniforms are supposed to) if not underlined with noticeable detail. A white outline on a generally gray-brown terrain suits that purpose well. While dark black outline would more likely cover figure among the landscape.
And one more question about other releases. There are two main factions and 4-5 subsidiary ones in the setting. Which variant would you prefer for the forthcoming items: to make more sets of the factions from the starter (to "deepen" them), or to introduce more factions by the new sets?
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Post by tomoko on Sept 9, 2018 3:56:52 GMT -9
White outlines - it's a legacy of JuniorGeneral, where our project was born. And believe me, the "duck syndrome" has nothing to do with it. I experimented with the outline colors and decided not to use black or another colored outlines. There are several reasons for this: 1. the height of an infantry is 28 mm. Dark outlines looks very good on colored miniatures higher 35 mm. My miniatures low sarutated and too tiny - they looks realy awful with black outlines 2. miniatures have own silhouette outline 0,3 pt. Black outlines "eat" this sillouette - miniatures lose their difference. Black outline dominates the figure 3. Miniatures have many small and thin details. Black outlines kills these details. This is especially noticeable on guns elements, barrels and hands
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Post by PieterVreeburg on Sept 9, 2018 10:31:41 GMT -9
I have bought the starter set. Excellent work, the paper minis are really nice and the world-building is excellent. I really like the included world-map, it gives an excellent sense of place and time. On a more practical note: does anybody have a recommendation regarding the thickness of the paper to print the miniatures on? I was thinking 100 gsm or would the resulting miniatures turn out too flimsy?
Regards,
Pieter Vreeburg
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Post by Tengel on Sept 9, 2018 11:10:30 GMT -9
Figures shown on photos are printed on the 230-240 g\smtr density paper. And they are really firm.
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Post by tomoko on Sept 9, 2018 12:36:41 GMT -9
PieterVreeburg, I use 230 gms matte photo-paper. Exelent for infantry, but not very well for technic. For models I recomend 160 gms
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Post by okumarts on Sept 9, 2018 16:06:47 GMT -9
OK, I should be finishing up my citizens set, but I can't resist!!!!
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Post by tomoko on Sept 10, 2018 6:39:21 GMT -9
okumarts, steel warriors - cardboard warriors style
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Post by Rhannon on Sept 11, 2018 2:16:44 GMT -9
First personal opinion ( nothing of value anyway ): Ok for watermarked pdf, pwerfect , great pdf quality ... but ihmo WargameVault has much less visibility than RPGNow and DriveThruRPG ( the main OBS sites ). I don't know the actual publishing costs on multiple sites but if it were possible I think it would help to publish your products at least also on another of the two sites. I have the feeling that WV is more known for historical products.
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Post by okumarts on Sept 11, 2018 3:08:39 GMT -9
First personal opinion ( nothing of value anyway ): Ok for watermarked pdf, pwerfect , great pdf quality ... but ihmo WargameVault has much less visibility than RPGNow and DriveThruRPG ( the main OBS sites ). I don't know the actual publishing costs on multiple sites but if it were possible I think it would help to publish your products at least also on another of the two sites. I have the feeling that WV is more known for historical products. I agree, there is much in the product that makes it wonderful for RPGNow and DriveThruRPG. Share on sister sites.
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Post by tomoko on Sept 11, 2018 4:05:27 GMT -9
Thank you very much, friends! I think, I found how to share!
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Post by okumarts on Sept 11, 2018 5:58:35 GMT -9
Yes, It's under Title Management under the subsection entitled: Manage where titles appear on sister sites.
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Post by whisper31 on Sept 13, 2018 16:09:04 GMT -9
Great product! 29 pages with setting, lore ... 35 unique paper minis, 2 vehicles ... a very good pdf document ... maybe a little too cheap :-) Overall definitely a great quality product. Congratulations to both.:-) Thanks for congratulations :-) And about "cheapness", we are working to fix this problem :-) That's only starter set on starter cost. Next sets will be 5$ for a unit of infantry and 7$ -- for a model. Each set would also contain two texts of lore (one about the item inside, and the other -- with general notes about the setting) and one or two drawn scetches.
And I don't think it's a good idea to make black outlines for the figures. They are warriors of a modern type, so, they wear uniforms of camouflage colours (which are rather fade). Fade figures on the green, gray, and brown terrain of battlefield would be seen worse (as their camoflaging uniforms are supposed to) if not underlined with noticeable detail. A white outline on a generally gray-brown terrain suits that purpose well. While dark black outline would more likely cover figure among the landscape.
And one more question about other releases. There are two main factions and 4-5 subsidiary ones in the setting. Which variant would you prefer for the forthcoming items: to make more sets of the factions from the starter (to "deepen" them), or to introduce more factions by the new sets?
Lovely work gentlemen.
The price is a little low for the quality and amount of items you are getting in the starter pack. I probably would have gone with a $9.99 price point with the starter set, but the supplemental modules seem to be about right. You might want to consider making some patreon-type exclusive/limited edition figures for those who have the ability to invest in your works.
As for black/white outlines. It's kind of the same argument as round/square bases. Each point has merit. Some people will like the style as is, while others will feel the need to change the outline. To each his own (you paid for the set, adjust it for personal use as necessary).
IMHO...I would like to see a deepen to new faction ratio of about 2 to 1. Deepen 2 factions, then create a new one. Deepen 2 factions, create a new one until you run out of factions to deepen. After that, you can create more factions/scenarios/supplements to your hearts content.
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Post by tomoko on Sept 15, 2018 2:57:09 GMT -9
whisper31, thank you! If you think that it will be better to expand the main factions, then we can adjust the plans. Next releases will main factions: Infantry: 1. Lianrian androids (clones) 2. Kenoese Guard (Emperor's fanatics) 3. Lianrian Mirror Battalion (heavy motorized infantry) 4. Kenoese Assault troops Technics: 1. Lianrian Hen-Khalar APC 2. Kenoese Kish-Amolo APC 3. Lianrian Ensar-Shail Battle Tank (not completed) 4. Kenoese Ash-Rohr Tank
I plan to do these things before the new year.
After the new year, I plan to introduce additional factions - Alana and Otlok 1. Alana's regular infantry 2. Otlok's regular infantry
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Post by whisper31 on Sept 18, 2018 17:21:43 GMT -9
whisper31, thank you! If you think that it will be better to expand the main factions, then we can adjust the plans. Next releases will main factions: Infantry: 1. Lianrian androids (clones) 2. Kenoese Guard (Emperor's fanatics) 3. Lianrian Mirror Battalion (heavy motorized infantry) 4. Kenoese Assault troops Technics: 1. Lianrian Hen-Khalar APC 2. Kenoese Kish-Amolo APC 3. Lianrian Ensar-Shail Battle Tank (not completed) 4. Kenoese Ash-Rohr Tank I plan to do these things before the new year. After the new year, I plan to introduce additional factions - Alana and Otlok 1. Alana's regular infantry 2. Otlok's regular infantry Sounds like a great lineup of things to come. Eventually, I might be able to get a few of these sets and have a ball with them. One consideration that I suggest is with the Technics/Vehicles would be to get several vehicles at one time and set that as one supplement for each faction. Once you can get (for example) a main battle tank, an APC, a scout vehicle, and maybe some miscellaneous items (ammo dump, communication equipment, etc.), set them up as a single supplement and sell them that way. Another item to think about is some generic (non-aligned) items. Those are just some suggestions that I think would make your game a master work, so take them with a grain of salt. I applaud your work and your dedication to it, sir!!!
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Post by Rhannon on Sept 23, 2018 6:23:45 GMT -9
some other personal opinions ... 1 - more sale visibility ( see previous post ) 2 - two different clear usage destinations for commercial sets: A - within the "Steel Warriors" world B - an independent use with any Sci-fi wargaming rules or RPGs. What's different? Point A needs a precise location. History, traditions, setting, all the lore ... Point B is easier imho. But probably some options on the figures would help. Example: the keno ( otlok ...) red eyes could become normal eyes. Figures would have more generic use and you could sell two sets ( specifying the difference ). 3 - What are the wargaming rules? Also in this case there are two possibilities imho. Either you decide to translate all your original rules or these wonderful paper minis(so many sets) must have at least one way. You can use them with other wargames ... THW, Ganesha Games ... or any other free rules but you have to enter data and tables for these rules, imho. 4 - a reasoned schedule, without hurry, consistent with the decisions to be taken first ( those of the previous points ). Don't saturate the market with sales.
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Post by Tengel on Sept 30, 2018 10:47:32 GMT -9
Thanks for your suggestions, I'd been out for a while, now, i can answer. 1. Only soldiers are completely ready so far. Vihicles are not (may be 13-14 models of ab. 25-30 planned). We just can't afford publish several models in one kit, 'cause if we did so, we wouldn't have any to publish in the other. 2. I consider the idea to give an option: a soldiers with red or normal eyes, and vihicles of different colours (forest camo, desert camo, khaki green...). 3. The fact, that we play these figures, using GroundZero Games' Stargrunt rules. I only translated them into Russian, reorganized them to make them easier to use, removed HiTech SciFi, added something for LowTech, and added rules for Psionics. So, it's really no need to publish our rules, they are already published. I can, for example write, what I have changed in original SG, but the point of the project -- one should be able to use any rules, whatever he wishes. And I can publish the tables and numbers of our armies and weapons in the terms of SG. 4. Reasoned schedule. We plan yet to release 2 sets each month. Androids of Lianra and Kenoese Guards are planned for October.
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Post by tomoko on Oct 2, 2018 2:24:43 GMT -9
>1. Only soldiers are completely ready so far. Vihicles are not (may be 13-14 models of ab. 25-30 planned)
in general, I plan 55 models. At the moment, 18 models are ready, which is the third part. The infantry is fully prepared - 540 miniatures. Now I just modify the infantry a little, correct minor errors and colors
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Post by tomoko on Oct 2, 2018 7:06:02 GMT -9
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Oct 2, 2018 7:17:50 GMT -9
WOW.
Do you have cutfiles for all these great minis? If not, I might put making some on my todo list...
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Post by tomoko on Oct 2, 2018 7:34:52 GMT -9
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Post by Rhannon on Oct 2, 2018 9:30:11 GMT -9
WOW. Do you have cutfiles for all these great minis? If not, I might put making some on my todo list... I'm not sure that our Russian friends know cutfiles. ;-)
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Post by tomoko on Oct 2, 2018 10:52:51 GMT -9
Rhannon, I misunderstood. I decided that the conversation was about pdf
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Post by Tengel on Oct 3, 2018 3:07:56 GMT -9
Cutfile, what's that? Somthing people print on their T-shirts?
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Post by tomoko on Oct 3, 2018 3:37:01 GMT -9
Little "not-steel" creative - FSB-fighter with AK-74M (+GP-25)
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Oct 3, 2018 8:07:19 GMT -9
Cutfile, what's that? Something people print on their T-shirts? Some people, like myself, enjoy using machines to cut out the printed minis, rather than cutting them out by hand. A "cutfile" is a file that instructs the machine to do the correct cutting. I have been making cutfiles for different sets of minis for several years now, and have helped a couple of artists follow some simple rules to help support using these machines. If you are interested in learning more, send me a message directly and I can explain in detail. If there is not yet a topic in the forums, I will consider writing details about what automated cutting machines are, why you want a Silhouette brand cutting machine, how to add support for these machines even if you don't own one, etc.
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Post by Rhannon on Oct 3, 2018 10:03:59 GMT -9
Little "not-steel" creative - FSB-fighter with AK-74M (+GP-25) how can we get it?
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Post by tomoko on Oct 4, 2018 6:21:23 GMT -9
Rhannon, soon)))
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Post by tomoko on Oct 4, 2018 15:03:27 GMT -9
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Post by tomoko on Oct 6, 2018 13:33:21 GMT -9
While I am preparing a release with androids, I will tell you who will be in the next release - this will be the Keno Guard (Emperor's Fanatics)
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