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Post by Rhannon on Mar 17, 2012 3:39:43 GMT -9
@vermin King: Awaiting this kind of products ( A modern-day series of buildings for wargames, zombie games, etc. ... ;D ) I gave a quick overview of what we can already find now. They aren't free products, so I open a new topic here. Stoelzel's Structures ( www.wargamevault.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=4244 ): Plus a pair of modular buildings Some pics:
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Post by Rhannon on Mar 17, 2012 3:42:24 GMT -9
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Post by aviphysics on Mar 17, 2012 5:22:23 GMT -9
cool stuff .... Had me worried for a second that someone has already done suburbs
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Post by Rhannon on Mar 17, 2012 7:45:17 GMT -9
imho there is still a large empty market ( You can to try search for fantasy e sci-fi 3D buildings ) and quality can make difference.
Place side by side 3D products from different producers usually is not great.
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Post by glennwilliams on Mar 17, 2012 7:46:12 GMT -9
Later this quarter, I plan on releasing the Kvartira ruins as "unruined," and my factory and warehouses are modern.
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Post by Rhannon on Mar 17, 2012 8:00:35 GMT -9
Later this quarter, I plan on releasing the Kvartira ruins as "unruined," and my factory and warehouses are modern. very good news for me, thanks. And ... yes your factory and warehouses ( very beutiful products ) are modern. For this reason I have included them in the list above ( I hope to haven't bothered you for this ) There are also several pieces, ruins and near sci-fi, which may be fine, yours and from other producers but for now I just searched only for real modern products, not ruined, because I'm looking for materials about a zombie apocalypse ( not a post-war apocalypse world or a post natural apocalypse ). In any case I will need some ruins.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 17, 2012 8:26:35 GMT -9
And yes, I am anxiously awaiting Kvartira as unruined. They all fit together, as far as looking like they belong together.
That was quite the search you did there, Rhannon. I wasn't aware of half of those. I guess I'm sort of a movie-influenced person on this genre. Really need a school, preferably a high school. Just think of how many movies take place in high schools, or at least have scenes from them.
When the virus hits, you go for weapons, food, first aid supplies and then find a defensible base. Gotta find a big-box hardware store to get the tools and materials to allow you to re-inforce your base.
This could be an excellent topic.
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Post by glennwilliams on Mar 17, 2012 9:02:59 GMT -9
The Fat Dragon models are really good. I missed the links for my stuff because I was oohing and ahhing over Fat Dragon.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 17, 2012 9:27:48 GMT -9
Do the FDG buildings have the option of making them less 'bright' and 'cheery'? Can't forget Tommygun's main street either
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Post by Rhannon on Mar 17, 2012 9:40:33 GMT -9
The Fat Dragon models are really good. I missed the links for my stuff because I was oohing and ahhing over Fat Dragon. Yes. they are good ( but yours too. idem ). All modern structures, buidings, roads, ... all ... need daily maintenance. These buildings seem me new, clean ... ( I have not bought them yet so I do not know what is the final effect changing textures ) Imho yours are perfect to represent a ( medium/big ) city after a few weeks, months without maintenance. Also with some ruins (broken pipes, water inside the metropolitan, dirty streets, spontaneous fires ... can cause much damages ) probably the dark colors tgive me this impression. but I like to think it is so.
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Post by glennwilliams on Mar 17, 2012 9:40:41 GMT -9
Fantastic. Of course, the IKEA is one percent of what it ought to be. At that scale the Swedish meatballs would be pretty tiny. Tommygun does really good work.
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Post by okumarts on Mar 17, 2012 14:19:52 GMT -9
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Post by aviphysics on Mar 18, 2012 6:54:01 GMT -9
imho there is still a large empty market ( You can to try search for fantasy e sci-fi 3D buildings ) and quality can make difference. Place side by side 3D products from different producers usually is not great. I think we will be able to come up with some unique stuff. Besides FDG I haven't seen very much flat folding modern terrain. There do seem to be some non folding suburban housing but I haven't seen any apocalypse ready (weathering, boarded up, broken windows graffiti, etc texture options) stuff. Another area could be modern buildings with texture options to give them that future retrofitted look.
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Post by okumarts on Mar 18, 2012 7:03:46 GMT -9
The Swift Scenics stuff all folds down flat.
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Post by dragnoz on Mar 19, 2012 2:34:12 GMT -9
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Post by Rhannon on Mar 19, 2012 3:21:30 GMT -9
My problem is that an "pugno nell'occhio" ( trad: eyesore ), a my mental discomfort, to put nearby buildings from different manufacturers.
Different styles, different colors, different textures ...
(Example) if I use ( wonderful ) fantasy buildings from dagobahdave then I can't use, near, an old microtactix's building.
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Post by gilius on Mar 19, 2012 3:53:49 GMT -9
The Swift Scenics stuff all folds down flat. Quick question for those of you who've built these buildings from WWG: are there any fiddly bits, do you think it would be feasible to build them at a reduced scale for 15mm? From the pictures, it seems possible but it would be great to hear more before buying.
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Post by glennwilliams on Mar 19, 2012 6:45:07 GMT -9
My problem is that an "pugno nell'occhio" ( trad: eyesore ), a my mental discomfort, to put nearby buildings from different manufacturers. Different styles, different colors, different textures ... (Example) if I use ( wonderful ) fantasy buildings from dagobahdave then I can't use, near, an old microtactix's building. On the other hand, in my town in a four square block area, we've got an ultra-modern concrete box sheriff station beside an 1880s clapboard hotel/ex-bordello across the street from 1950s downtown modern, next to an 1889 red brick Thai restaurant, and sandwiched in the middle is an Depression era WPA post office. I agree with your pugno nell'occhio comment about the models, though. We all have different aesthetics in our design that can create a jarring contrast. Maybe instead of side by side, the gamer could build "neighborhoods" of designers' models.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 19, 2012 7:44:58 GMT -9
I don't necessarily think he meant the building styles. I think he was referring to the aesthetics of each manufacturer. Everyone does textures a bit differently. Everyone handles details differently. Even the way the buildings are built differently.
Sometimes that makes things look odd next to each other.
I know what you are saying, Glenn, and I totally agree. Go to any town in America that has a main business district and you see the same thing. On Ohio Street in Sedalia, Missouri, you see more of this than any other place I've been. The buildings from different eras gives the whole thing a charm of its own.
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Post by aviphysics on Mar 19, 2012 9:08:12 GMT -9
The Swift Scenics stuff all folds down flat. That's cool but I don't think it competes with what I am planning. They are just totally different kinds of buildings.
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Post by glennwilliams on Mar 19, 2012 13:34:29 GMT -9
I know what you are saying, Glenn, and I totally agree. Go to any town in America that has a main business district and you see the same thing. On Ohio Street in Sedalia, Missouri, you see more of this than any other place I've been. The buildings from different eras gives the whole thing a charm of its own. My family's from the area just south of Sedalia (Cole Camp Junction) and Kansas City! But, yeah, I was addressing the plethora of styles. York, England is also a great example: come out of an ultra-modern drug store, and there's an ancient tower. As I said, design aesthetics vary wildly, so I'd separate them on the tabletop. I'm doing that 1800s bordello (wink, wink, hotel) soon and hope to show it off next to unruined Kvartira buildings and the Thai restaurant when I get that one done. It would be interesting to see some pix of people who've mixed designers.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 19, 2012 14:23:29 GMT -9
Holy smokes, it's a small world. Are you like Ezekiel Williams's great, great grandson? My folks remodeled the old Holy Cross Lutheran School northeast of Cole Camp and that's where I spend most weekends. I'm intrigued by the thai restaurant and hotel ideas. Another place for good ideas is the Illinois Main Street and Lincoln Sites website www.buildyourownmainstreet.org/
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Post by Rhannon on Mar 19, 2012 14:26:07 GMT -9
I don't necessarily think he meant the building styles. I think he was referring to the aesthetics of each manufacturer. Everyone does textures a bit differently. Everyone handles details differently. Even the way the buildings are built differently. Sometimes that makes things look odd next to each other. ... Yes. It is. glennwilliams: the "problem", my "problem", isn't about different building historical styles. Every small town in Italy has something from Roman to modern. And I am interesting to see some pix of people who've mixed designers too.
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Post by okumarts on Mar 19, 2012 19:51:14 GMT -9
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Post by Adam Souza on Mar 20, 2012 7:05:11 GMT -9
I really like the WWG terrain linx concept, and I already have a few sets, but until I get a cutting machine, that's more small fidlly bits than I want to deal with, cutting by hand.
Did however pickup the Downtown abandoned Swift scenic set last night. Cutting and building the supports was a bit tedious, but it was less labor intensive than mounting it on foamcore, like I normally would.
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Post by glennwilliams on Mar 20, 2012 8:09:23 GMT -9
Holy smokes, it's a small world. Are you like Ezekiel Williams's great, great grandson? My folks remodeled the old Holy Cross Lutheran School northeast of Cole Camp and that's where I spend most weekends. Ezra Williams' grandson. His farm was at Cole Camp Junction.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 20, 2012 8:52:08 GMT -9
Do you ever get back to the area? We might have to drop in and have dinner or a brew at the Red Baron restaurant and bar at the 4-way stoplight on the Northeast corner.
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Post by glennwilliams on Mar 20, 2012 9:24:03 GMT -9
Do you ever get back to the area? We might have to drop in and have dinner or a brew at the Red Baron restaurant and bar at the 4-way stoplight on the Northeast corner. No. The last funeral was back in the 70s and the rest of the family moved away--we're scattered all over the US.
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