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Post by pasiphilo on Sept 10, 2012 9:16:51 GMT -9
For my first post to this great forum, I wanted to share with you this Bowman and Swordsman as a preview of a set I'm currently designing.  They'll be part of a larger, 30-figure human army of fighters and spell-casters for use with any kind 28mm tabletop gaming, including Pathfinder and D&D. They're printed double-sided (with "front" and "back" views) on laminated cardstock, precision cut to shape, and slot-mounted on round 20mm plastic bases. These are prototypes since I'm still fine-tuning things like border colour and cut margin. I'm pretty new to this forum and designing paper miniatures, so both your patience and feedback are appreciated.  You may also wish to check out my free downloadable paper minis at my DeviantART page.
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Post by oldschooldm on Sept 10, 2012 9:28:25 GMT -9
These are wonderful! I look forward to being able to pay you for your great figures!
Oh! Yeah! Welcome to the forums!
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Post by cowboyleland on Sept 10, 2012 9:50:47 GMT -9
Wow, quite the debut! Welcome. are you going to sell pdfs or just finnished figs? I know pdfs are easy to copy, but many gamers are in parts of the world where shipping costs are going to be an issue.
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Post by gilius on Sept 10, 2012 10:07:48 GMT -9
Awesome shading in both cloth and armor! I seem to have missed the "Buy" button, where's it? ;D
EDIT: that's what I get for replying right after seeing the image. Living in Brazil, I have to ask you to consider Cowboyleland's comment and the possibility of releasing these in PDF form.
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Post by pasiphilo on Sept 10, 2012 12:09:58 GMT -9
These are wonderful! I look forward to being able to pay you for your great figures! Oh! Yeah! Welcome to the forums! I look forward to unleashing them on the world! Thanks very much for the compliments and the warm welcome! Wow, quite the debut! Welcome. are you going to sell pdfs or just finnished figs? I know pdfs are easy to copy, but many gamers are in parts of the world where shipping costs are going to be an issue. Awesome shading in both cloth and armor! ...Living in Brazil, I have to ask you to consider Cowboyleland's comment and the possibility of releasing these in PDF form. Thanks to both of you for your encouraging words! I totally understand your concerns with regard to shipping costs. At this point, I'm planning to make these available as physical goods only, however the shipping weight, based on my initial estimates and research into packaging options, should be pretty small. I'm making a point of keeping packaging to a minimum for both economical and environmental reasons. I am, however, considering making a separate line of download-only paper minis, too. 
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 10, 2012 12:23:50 GMT -9
That would be fantastic. Electronic delivery seems to be the way of the future
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Post by nikloveland on Sept 10, 2012 13:18:01 GMT -9
It's great to see you finally got on the forum  Those figures are looking great (as usual). I think having physical products can only help raise the awareness of the papercraft hobby. It's a great idea. What kind of process are you looking into?
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Post by cowboyleland on Sept 10, 2012 13:55:50 GMT -9
I like the idea of doing both electronic and "real" paper figs. I sometimes think I would need to release pre-cuts of my 2.5d's if I wanted to get anyone (besides Eddnic) to give them a try. Funny thing is: when I made my other post I was thinking about our South American compadres, now I see on his deviant art site that pasiphilo could ship to me with good ol' Canada Post. Small world (eh), but I wouldn't want to mail it 
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Post by Reivaj on Sept 10, 2012 15:03:49 GMT -9
WOOOOOOWWW  Great MINIS !!! And great to see you here, welcome. I wish that you can do a pdf versions too becuse is very difficult to buy physical products from outside my country. GREAT WORK AGAIN!! ;D
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Post by mruseless on Sept 10, 2012 19:24:34 GMT -9
They look great! But put me down as one that only buys downloadable minis. I look forward to a PDF set!
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Post by pasiphilo on Sept 11, 2012 9:06:53 GMT -9
It's great to see you finally got on the forum  Those figures are looking great (as usual). I think having physical products can only help raise the awareness of the papercraft hobby... What kind of process are you looking into? Thanks, Nik! Yes, I feel there is value in a printed physical product and my hope is that the market agrees. Not sure what kind of process you mean, by the way... production process? I like the idea of doing both electronic and "real" paper figs... WOOOOOOWWW  Great MINIS !!! And great to see you here, welcome. I wish that you can do a pdf versions too becuse is very difficult to buy physical products from outside my country. GREAT WORK AGAIN!! ;D They look great! But put me down as one that only buys downloadable minis. I look forward to a PDF set! Thanks very much, guys! Just to be clear, the PDF line I mentioned - if I do it - will be separate in both art style and content. The samples I posted above and their upcoming comrades will only be available as printed and cut phyiscal goods. Any downloadable PDF figure line will most likely employ simpler detail and colouring style. I will do my utmost best to keep the shipping weight for my cardstock minis as light as possible, however. Speaking of downloadable figures, I do still plan to create and post more free downloads on my DeviantART page from time to time. Such free figures will most likely be fan-art based, such as 28mm minis of, for example, Soul Reapers (from the Bleach anime) or Fire Nation army fire-benders (from Avatar: the Last Airbender) which could still have a place on your battlemat. xD Thanks again for all your feedback!
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Post by nikloveland on Sept 11, 2012 15:11:29 GMT -9
Not sure what kind of process you mean, by the way... production process? Yeah, how are you cutting them (if you don't mind sharing)? Are you using a personal cutter or a custom die press? (although it looks to tight for a die)
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Post by pasiphilo on Sept 11, 2012 15:43:00 GMT -9
Yeah, how are you cutting them (if you don't mind sharing)? Are you using a personal cutter or a custom die press? (although it looks to tight for a die) These samples were achieved with a computer-guided custom cutting process, although I'm also investigating custom die-cutting.
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Post by Rhannon on Oct 27, 2012 10:21:07 GMT -9
For my first post to this great forum, I wanted to share with you this Bowman and Swordsman as a preview of a set I'm currently designing.  They'll be part of a larger, 30-figure human army of fighters and spell-casters for use with any kind 28mm tabletop gaming, including Pathfinder and D&D. They're printed double-sided (with "front" and "back" views) on laminated cardstock, precision cut to shape, and slot-mounted on round 20mm plastic bases. These are prototypes since I'm still fine-tuning things like border colour and cut margin. I'm pretty new to this forum and designing paper miniatures, so both your patience and feedback are appreciated.  You may also wish to check out my free downloadable paper minis at my DeviantART page. Hi pasiphilo, you already know my opinion on your figures.  So, although I would prefer a downloadable file, I am able to buy printed paper miniatures with no problem. Are there any news on this? Ciao PS: imho if you cut the black part between the legs the human figure stands out even more.
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Post by squirmydad on Oct 27, 2012 19:05:00 GMT -9
Designs look great! I wish I could hand color like that.
I really look forward to seeing what you release. I'm glad to see you pursuing the preprinted stuff, there is a real market for that. JIM
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Post by onemonkeybeau on Oct 27, 2012 19:31:16 GMT -9
WOW! Looks great!
onemonkeybeau
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Post by Rhannon on Oct 27, 2012 22:26:13 GMT -9
Designs look great! I wish I could hand color like that. I really look forward to seeing what you release. I'm glad to see you pursuing the preprinted stuff, there is a real market for that. JIM And you Jim? Any news? 
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Post by pasiphilo on Oct 28, 2012 6:00:55 GMT -9
...although I would prefer a downloadable file, I am able to buy printed paper miniatures with no problem. Are there any news on this?... Thanks again for your support, Rhannon! As with most creative endeavors, this project is taking longer than hoped, but I'm still forging ahead. I've completed the next two figures - a male captain and a female spellcaster - which I'll be posting a preview of soon to get your comments and feedback on. The good news is that I get a little bit faster with each new figure I complete. (-: PS: imho if you cut the black part between the legs the human figure stands out even more. I agree with you completely. The process I cut these with can't do "knockouts" unfortunately, but I'm still investigating other cutting options as well as just using a lighter "fill" colour for the space between their legs. Designs look great! I wish I could hand color like that. I really look forward to seeing what you release. I'm glad to see you pursuing the preprinted stuff, there is a real market for that. JIM Thanks very much, Jim. As a seasoned figure designer, your input is invaluable! I'm enjoying the creative process and have been greatly inspired by the work you've done as well as others on this board. WOW! Looks great! onemonkeybeau Many thanks, onemonkeybeau! (-:
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Post by cowboyleland on Oct 28, 2012 20:34:11 GMT -9
I like these figs a lot. I would advise against the lighter colour between the legs (that kinda sounds dirt  ) What I mean is if you can't cut it out, leaving it coloured black is the least obtrusive solution. It feels like grey should "fade out" more, but in practice, at least for most people it doesn't. Just my two cents.
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Post by Rhannon on Nov 2, 2012 0:05:53 GMT -9
OK they are "paper minis". Classical ( in the best meaning of the word ) fantasy figures. A complete, full, commercial product ( there will be still someone who continue to say "they aren't minis ... blah, blah, blah ... the real minis are just of rsin ... ;D ) These are not of metal, plastic or resin. Theya re made with cardboard/paper. So they aren't threedimensional but bilateral/two-dimensional. There are advantages and disadvantages. of course. But they are only choices, decisions and personal preferences. But when thre is a total quality, they become a stand-alone product. different from all other, completely independent as commercial proposal, and not a bad temporary replacement blah, blah, blah ... Imho. Great quality and great art. Compliments, "pasiphilo". Good luck with your new project. I can't wait when they will be out. Ciao
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Post by Sirrob01 on Nov 2, 2012 11:17:25 GMT -9
Look really good, You can definitely see the increased accuracy in the cutouts between a commercial cutter and Robo/Cameo we all use at home.
I'd be interested to know if pasiphilo intends to print these to a slightly thicker medium than we can manage ie that 1-2mm chipboard/scrapbook cardboard you see around the place.
I've always thought that doing paper miniatures around a thicker central core would look really good and up the durability significantly.
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Post by pasiphilo on Nov 2, 2012 13:41:18 GMT -9
Thanks very much for the support, Rhannon!
I need to clarify that the graphics Rhannon inserted above are not photographs of the printed and cut minis, but are simply my concept artwork showing the figure design.
I'll post actual product shots of these figures once I've had them cut and printed. (-:
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Post by pasiphilo on Dec 4, 2012 11:32:43 GMT -9
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Post by Parduz on Dec 4, 2012 16:07:09 GMT -9
Just a question: why you do not cut the space between the legs?
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Post by pasiphilo on Dec 5, 2012 6:07:31 GMT -9
Just a question: why you do not cut the space between the legs? The computer-guided cutting process I'm using currently isn't able to do what they call "knock-outs" - holes in the middle of the shape being cut - so this is the solution. I continue to investigate alternate methods, however. (-:
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Post by Parduz on Dec 5, 2012 6:12:46 GMT -9
Just a question: why you do not cut the space between the legs? The computer-guided cutting process I'm using currently isn't able to do what they call "knock-outs" - holes in the middle of the shape being cut - so this is the solution. I continue to investigate alternate methods, however. (-: Understood...... ...... just guessing (pardon my programmer mind): the cutting process have to follow one continue, uninterrupted path? And (this just for curiosity); what cutting process is it? (if it can be disclosed)
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Post by pasiphilo on Dec 9, 2012 9:31:50 GMT -9
Understood ...just guessing (pardon my programmer mind): the cutting process have to follow one continue, uninterrupted path? And (this just for curiosity); what cutting process is it? (if it can be disclosed) That's right, the path can't be broken for each shape. Beyond saying it's a "computer-guided process," I don't really know how else to describe it. Currently, I outsource the cutting, so I'm limited to what they tell me they can do, but I'm also investigating ways to do my own cutting so that I can tweak the process further. For now, though, I'm pretty happy with the results. (-:
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