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Post by paladin on Jan 19, 2012 13:14:24 GMT -9
  mesper, now there they are: the historical Hoplites with historical Shield Patterns! Fine Art, mesper. Would'nt had expected any less ... . Thanks for joining us to fight back the Persians (ehrr ... in my case: the Arachans !?). @reivaj, if you don't want to disturb the symmetry of your talisman thing, then there is the option to 'raise' the 'wooden' piece (where the 'eivaj'-part is on) to the same height level to combine talisman and piece organically - so that the letters could relax flat down on the piece. Now - as it is - you get the impression, that the 'eivaj'-part is ABOVE the piece, not engraved or such ... . Hackbarth said, your Logo uses too much color or form, is too complex, but I must say, that you can see especially in the Fantasy paper arts proud and heavy Logos, really show-off pieces, as we are not in the (dry) business class or industrial sector, where every Logo has 2 colors and the most boring pattern ... . So, I think, your Logo could work, if you could solve the 'e'-problem ... . What about a paper scroll attached to a compass thingie? No? Or a brazil wood piece attached to a wooden totem? Don't know, what your intentions are ... is your amulete specific? And is 'Reivaj' a (your) name, what does it mean etc.?
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Post by Reivaj on Jan 19, 2012 13:50:27 GMT -9
I´ll test your suggestions Paladin, THANKS for your support  . Reivaj is my name reading it from back to front, my name is Javier Rhannon: this set at the beginning was just a mini, and i started to combine the parts of that mini and finaly i´d make a five minis set, because of this i don´t have any front or 3/4 profile mini |
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Post by paladin on Jan 19, 2012 13:57:27 GMT -9
... Reivaj is my name reading it from back to front, my name is Javier |
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 19, 2012 15:18:52 GMT -9
Reivaj is my name reading it from back to front, my name is Javier I kinda guessed that a long time ago. One of my alter-egos on the internet is similar ... Revolkrow ... the opposite of worklover ... I agree with the comments on that 'e', but I'm not sure of the solution. I was thinking more of a 3-d looking font for all the letters in your name, but I am not sure that would work. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 16:15:55 GMT -9
As Paladin wrote - we don't know origination/meaning of elements and colors used in your logotype. But just for fun my 2 coppers: Logo / logotype should be eye-catching but at the same time easy to read & easy to memorize So I would stay with 2 max 3 colors for letters +more colorful graphic element - your "amulet" is nice and original, so it is worth to keep it as it is or use it's elements/shape Tips: It might be possible to make smooth "transition" from amulet to "R" (using the same color?) Try to test different fonts and colors, or you can add some border etc... but in general less is more in this case Another idea - surround "R" with outlined light gray amulet (amulet should be bigger then). You can also "split" amulet into 2 parts - one on top of R and another under it (with some free space between elements!) - hmm... I'm not sure if I can describe it - got it in my mind... but it's to late... Cheers |
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Post by glennwilliams on Jan 19, 2012 16:41:26 GMT -9
Nicely done.
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Post by old squirmydad on Jan 19, 2012 16:45:32 GMT -9
And another take;  My way of saying thanks for a good set. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 4:29:47 GMT -9
Another quick ones: I was trying to use "amulet/compass" element/shape... well, apparently without success... Generally, when using "amulet", the "mini" word placement is most problematic. So eventually I tend to simplest, most IMHO elegant design, which is C; after some font and color tweaking might be most versatile and not drawing attention from your figures (to make it more friendly/warm I would replace circle's green with warm yellow/gold/light orange - according to color wheel) BUT... as Paladin mentioned - this is not hi-tech industry, so perhaps it's too minimalistic and kinda "dry" / not funny... |
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Post by paladin on Jan 20, 2012 5:56:50 GMT -9
 ;D ... Hell, no ... please, mesper, I don't want to offend your Logo Design Abilities - as solution C is exactly what you could see on a medicine/pill package. Have a look at Fat Dragon Games or World Works Games - or Cerberus Illustrations and others - they are not ashamed of their Artwork Logos. That said, I think, mesper, your products could profit from a little bit more 'illustration' of page borders/fontstyle etc. - of course as decent and fine as your delicate figures shown, they should not get overwhelmed, I see that too ... . I think, Reivaj needs time to think about his Logo for himself, as this is a very personal and important business decision. I have to say also, that Reivaj's first try is still the best ;D ... .
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Post by Reivaj on Jan 20, 2012 6:50:40 GMT -9
THANK YOU VERY MUCH for the suggestions and to take the work to do all these versions!! . I like the first A sugestion that mesper do, but i want to maintain the mini, comic or toy look of the logo. I´m thinking in what children like, because we are adults but if we have this hobby i think that we have a lot of children in our interior  |
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Post by glennwilliams on Jan 20, 2012 7:06:41 GMT -9
I´m thinking in what children like, because we are adults but if we have this hobby i think that we have a lot of children in our interior Amen. |
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Post by paladin on Jan 20, 2012 7:18:53 GMT -9
Yes, we are all little play devils ... . Nothing to be ashamed of, really. Without play, no game, no creativity, no art. The best thing you can loose as a grown-up, is your ability to play and create. Children are really good at that, while most adults are stuck to routines - like programmed robots ... . If you like mesper's A solution, then get back to my suggestions ... ;D. What I personally find a bit cold looking in your Logo is the silver grey. Do you want to have a treasure type silver amulet? Then make it (for children) shiny and sparkling. Or perhaps a warmer looking wooden tribal talisman/totem/amulet with gems/jewels inlayed? You have to find a way to combine the pieces ... then, I think, your Logo is looking fine. I especially like the zagged form/font of the 'eivaj'-piece. Try to push the 'minis'-part into the center under the 'eivaj'-part - balanced with the amulet, of course. Your Logo could be more compact, not so lengthy then. Just try several solutions ... .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 7:55:30 GMT -9
Well, at least now it's obvious which design direction is definitely not "compatible" with Reivaj vision plus he clearly confirmed his attitude (comic / toy lookalike) - and that's OK, another one step forward |
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Post by Rhannon on Jan 20, 2012 8:21:21 GMT -9
;D ... Hell, no ... please, mesper, I don't want to offend your Logo Design Abilities - as solution C is exactly what you could see on a medicine/pill package. Have a look at Fat Dragon Games or World Works Games - or Cerberus Illustrations and others - they are not ashamed of their Artwork Logos. That said, I think, mesper, your products could profit from a little bit more 'illustration' of page borders/fontstyle etc. - of course as decent and fine as your delicate figures shown, they should not get overwhelmed, I see that too ... . mesper's logos are good and beautiful but I think that: "... I think, Reivaj needs time to think about his Logo for himself, as this is a very personal and important business decision. I have to say also, that Reivaj's first try is still the best ;D ... " is the right way. Not, or not only, for "important business decision/s" but because this way is Javier's vision about his logo represents him and his ( beautiful ) works. For similar reasons ( because so it can change the artist's vision ) I don't like much speeches about figures' censorship. |
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Post by paladin on Jan 20, 2012 8:35:27 GMT -9
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Post by imnntt on Jan 20, 2012 10:54:43 GMT -9
How about something like this...  |
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Post by paladin on Jan 20, 2012 11:17:04 GMT -9
That's not bad, imnntt! Not bad at all ... the yellow frame of the letters is corresponding nicely with the amulet gems. But some parts Reivaj likes, may be missing now. But I think, this also helps, it's at least more 'toylike' ... .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 12:52:18 GMT -9
Really nice! Except shadows perhaps - although looking good and adding some feeling of deep/3D, in fact not necessary/wanted/needed in logotype (anyway - LOL - to be honest, I'm guilty as well... me like shadowz 2!!!) |
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Post by Reivaj on Jan 20, 2012 13:10:34 GMT -9
Great work imnntt!! I like it, what´s the name of that font?? i don´t have it.  |
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Post by imnntt on Jan 20, 2012 15:58:16 GMT -9
The font's called Erasmus Better?... or are you talking about the shadowing on the letters themselves?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 16:38:31 GMT -9
Youp - much better IMHO (ie. without "surrounding / external" shadows) Regarding in-letter shadowing - de gustibus... EDIT: ------- Perhaps it would be interesting to add some "shadow" lookalike effect; - but... not so spreaded as previous one - just more sound/darker and shifted (something like dark/black letters in background, shifted just a few pixels down and left - which should bring up the letters) - something kinda shifted/one-sided contour |
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Post by Parduz on Jan 21, 2012 14:53:24 GMT -9
I'm not able to draw it, but i'd like a more simple approach. So, i'd like something the last example (font and composition), keeping the amulet as it is but making the name as if it was written with ink and a feather (so, not completly black.... dunno how to explain better...)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2012 16:01:26 GMT -9
...Long time ago promissed... and I forgot... so please find in next /below post assembled figurine of Greek Hoplite Sentinel This one is full CCv3 of course. Here's sample in original size...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2012 16:04:17 GMT -9
OK... now's figurine turn... This one is not so bright -- colors and textures are more "natural", though some details disappeared due to rescaling... OK - enjoy! mesper [original attachment removed; figure is available via Hoard #101] |
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Post by Reivaj on Jun 14, 2012 16:36:34 GMT -9
Great work mesper!! it´s great to see that this hoard still alive |
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Post by Rhannon on Jun 14, 2012 22:00:39 GMT -9
OK... now's figurine turn... This one is not so bright -- colors and textures are more "natural", though some details disappeared due to rescaling... OK - enjoy! mesper No free pdf ( KFD-FREE05 ) ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 5:50:11 GMT -9
RhannonTHIS one is for forums hoard -- free and under Creative Commons Licence. PLUS there IS still FREE (however copyrighted) mini-set with 3 figurines + accessories (additional shields) earlier in this thread -- preview and direct link for download included. --- I wanted this one to be little different from mini-set hoplites -- so he got slightly different pose and back of cloak not mentioning new shield's emblem, add to this more torso and armor details visible + improved coloring / texturing (which actually took most of time but isn't that visible in 30mm as I'm afraid)... Well, technically it could be easily possible to made mini-set from this new one -- let's say he could put shield on his back, change helmet and weapon, different colors and VOILA -- plus mirrored version wither another small changes and we could receive at least 3 variations... But as it is CC anybody is allowed for modifications ;D
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Post by Rhannon on Jun 15, 2012 6:44:33 GMT -9
RhannonTHIS one is for forums hoard -- free and under Creative Commons Licence. ... I'm sorry. I explain wrong. I don't ask for another free mini-set free ( with other figures ). But I ask if there is this only figure in pdf format ( I don't like much jpg ) Ciao |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 15:20:31 GMT -9
RhannonGot it, but it's not possible to attach PDF (link only) plus JPG is probably more convenient for Nick (Hoard file) --although PNG could be IMO even better... so perhaps I should re-submit in this format. Now, regarding PDF... hmm... well actually I got some idea, but... as usual, patience, my friend, patience...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2012 7:33:03 GMT -9
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