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Post by dcbradshaw on Jan 30, 2013 12:22:46 GMT -9
I like the idea here, but still not necessarily convinced about the execution: Doppelganger: The Universal Game Piece KickstarterIt's an interesting concept, and theoretically folks like us would have a plethora of options for figure display... It is two sided, but it doesn't appear that each side would be capable of showing different images, which is a definite con if you ask me.
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Post by kiladecus on Jan 30, 2013 12:41:54 GMT -9
So, they want $45,000.00 to do what I do with paper? I can upload an image in EXCEL and print it out for less than $.45. Ok, I must be missing something...
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Post by Rhannon on Jan 30, 2013 12:54:50 GMT -9
you have missed "future", my friend. You have lost "progress". There is no way to stop the train. ;D I think it's a brilliant idea but as a rough diamond. I hope this kickstarter succeed in being well founded. But maybe this is not his turn or his time. I have doubts about the quality of the display resolution and why we can't load two different images. But it is a cleverproject, imho. Dave in twenty years you will have only the base and the three-dimensional hologram of the mini. Accustomed to the idea. ;D Ciao.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 14:27:00 GMT -9
you have missed "future", my friend. You have lost "progress". There is no way to stop the train. Dave in twenty years you will have only the base and the three-dimensional hologram of the mini. Accustomed to the idea. ;D Youp! Maybe not holographic tech.yet - but I was recently playing/testing 3D printer... quite a lot of fun!; Even if designing (quality/decent one, not "excel" one;) figurine in 3D program took much (yes, MUCH!!!) more time and effort than drawing it (not even mentioning coloring / texturing, FX etc.) results are very promising and sometimes kinda spectacular. Due to high cost of new technology there is no market for 3D printed figurines right now, but Rhannon is right - no chance to avoid/escape tech innovations... its like with traditional paper printed books and e-readers (vide Kindle/Nook etc) - da future is knocking to our doors - every single day louder and louder... //which could be kinda annoying sometimes;) // Just check out one of cheapest/simplest yet quality software (actually silo, but there are other competitive producers) outcome vide attached sample taken from producers forum. And you can get it for less than 60$ in digital version. PS1. although I still prefer hard-cover graphic novels compared to iPad digital versions;) PS2. still there is "hope" for us - old fashioned/old school designers - there will be always fans of such "outdated" graphics, but the cardboard/paper figurines niche, which is already very small, will be shrinking I'm afraid ;P Attachments:
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Post by stevelortz on Jan 30, 2013 15:51:03 GMT -9
you have missed "future", my friend. You have lost "progress". There is no way to stop the train. Dave in twenty years you will have only the base and the three-dimensional hologram of the mini. Accustomed to the idea. ;D Youp! Maybe not holographic tech.yet - but I was recently playing/testing 3D printer... quite a lot of fun!; Even if designing (quality/decent one, not "excel" one;) figurine in 3D program took much (yes, MUCH!!!) more time and effort than drawing it (not even mentioning coloring / texturing, FX etc.) results are very promising and sometimes kinda spectacular. Due to high cost of new technology there is no market for 3D printed figurines right now, but Rhannon is right - no chance to avoid/escape tech innovations... its like with traditional paper printed books and e-readers (vide Kindle/Nook etc) - da future is knocking to our doors - every single day louder and louder... //which could be kinda annoying sometimes;) // Just check out one of cheapest/simplest yet quality software (actually silo, but there are other competitive producers) outcome vide attached sample taken from producers forum. And you can get it for less than 60$ in digital version. PS1. although I still prefer hard-cover graphic novels compared to iPad digital versions;) PS2. still there is "hope" for us - old fashioned/old school designers - there will be always fans of such "outdated" graphics, but the cardboard/paper figurines niche, which is already very small, will be shrinking I'm afraid ;P Yep, mesper is right... I made a living for a while sculpting original figures in epoxy that I sold to the manufacturers who made vulcanized rubber molds, cast up copies in white metal, and sold them in the game distribution system. I no longer have the sharpness of vision or the steadiness of hand to do it anymore. Some time ago, I fiddled around with some digital sculpting, but the state of the art wasn't sufficiently advanced then to make it practical. My neuron pathways were set up in the days of manual typewriters and analog slide rules. The insulation on the wires in my brain starts to smoke when I try any graphics software more complex than MS Paint. I have a friend who is teaching himself how to use Zbrush (a computer animating program) to sculpt in three dimensions, and he's doing it pretty successfully. He's turning out some figures that would be next to impossible to do by hand. And some are selling very well! It will be interesting to see where 3-D printing goes! The possibilities for digital-analog figures in this kick-starter seem interesting. The only question I have is, if I'm a game master, will I need a large number of bases to represent all the different figures that might be on the tabletop? Still, a dozen or so bases with a number of different images could take the place of hundreds of MageKnight or Herocliks figures. Interesting to see where all this will wind up. When my brother and I were kids back in the '50s & '60s, somewhere or other, we saw some imagery of Epinal and other Victorian era European paper soldiers. We fell in love with them! That's part of the reason why mesper's artwork appeals so much to me. So maybe I'll get some of these digital bases if mesper does the graphics! Have fun! Steve
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Post by oldschooldm on Jan 30, 2013 16:02:55 GMT -9
2D, 3D - analog or digital. The art has to come from somewhere.
You guys will be in business for a little while still, even if something like these digipawns comes to pass...
Speaking of art - perhaps one or two of you might be interested in this one....
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Post by dcbradshaw on Jan 30, 2013 16:34:36 GMT -9
You guys will be in business for a little while still, even if something like these digipawns comes to pass... I fully endorse this word and your use of it and suggest that you trademark it immediately.
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Post by Sirrob01 on Feb 4, 2013 23:01:08 GMT -9
I thought about using one of those LCD keyrings for pictures you can buy, but I never could find one in the right dimensions so this looks intresting. 3d printing yes it's coming, I'm pretty excited by it but at the moment the @ home rigs don't have the resolution (not that I've seen) for miniature printing. The big commercial rigs no worries. I do see in the future we wont all be sharing paper standees but rather free 3d models to pump out of our 3d printers, how far this is away no idea I hope soon (<2 years)but realistically it's probably 5-10 years for a good quality reasonably priced 3d printer for home use Off course maybe 3d animated holograms on a digital gaming table might beat the 3d printers
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Post by cowboyleland on Feb 5, 2013 5:02:35 GMT -9
I know I've mentioned this a lot lately, for some reason my mind keeps going there, but 3d printing will not solve the storage problem, in fact it will compound it the way desk top printing has increased paper usage. For human size 30mm the storage isn't too bad, but once you start adding dragons, giants or vehicles into the mix you start needing a spare room for your models. With most of the population moving more to urban centres, (read appartments and condos) the spare room is going to be a thing of the past. On the other hand www.shapeways.com/ will do 3d printing for you and if you put several in one "mold" it is about the cost of a commercial mini, but you still have to paint it. www.shapeways.com/model/117113/frogan-blood-pack-28mm.html?li=productBox-search
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Post by bravesirkevin on Feb 5, 2013 5:09:24 GMT -9
I've often been tempted to put some of my stuff on shapeways, but the thing that puts me off is that I've never seen a sample print of an actual mini. There's a lot of cool looking mini designs on there, but the product shots are all 3d port renders, and I have my doubts that the detail will hold on the finished product, especially given what I have seen of actual 3d prints. If anyone's actually bought a small scale mini from there, let me know how it worked out.
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Post by dcbradshaw on Feb 5, 2013 6:32:28 GMT -9
A friend bought a Klingon-style starship model from Shapeways, and the detail is pretty incredible actually. Of course, it's mostly smooth curves and straight edges and basic angles, but it looked considerably better than I anticipated it would.
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