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Post by endial on Nov 21, 2013 11:16:07 GMT -9
CB Warriors I have a request. I have been trying to recreate the following Image into a 2d Battle mat with one inch squares for my group tomorrow night. I thought I could just zoom in on the image but that didn't work. I don't normally deal with 2d terrain that much (outside of basics) so I will ask here. Does anyone have a free 2d terrain with a 1 inch grid on it of a road similiar to these? If I can get a Road and Bridge that is about the same size as in the pic then I can make some water and glue the 3 together. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Nov 21, 2013 11:21:35 GMT -9
I don't know of free stuff off the top of my head, so maybe someone else could chime in. I know that Lord Zsezse Works sells a ton of ground tile sets. Set #3 is < $5 and looks like it might suit your needs.
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Post by shep on Nov 21, 2013 14:25:16 GMT -9
You could try to resize the image using www.resizeyourimage.com/ and then save the new file and print it with a plotter. However, that might be a little bit more expensive than using a tile set of any kind... E D I TOkay, I tried it and it does not work. Instead you could go here: blowup.en.softonic.com/ and download Blow Up, a tool for Photoshop, Photoshop Elements and Lightroom that enlarges pictures to even giant sizes while keeping the image mostly sharp. For your picture, by the way, you need to size it up by 1200%, if the image above is the full size...
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Post by endial on Nov 21, 2013 14:34:53 GMT -9
I don't have Access to a plotter anymore sadly and while Lord Zsezse Works is awesome I don't think its quite what I'm looking for here. I really figured there would be some sort of program that would let me drag and drop stuff, but no luck yet aside from CC3.
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Post by shep on Nov 21, 2013 14:40:55 GMT -9
I don't have Access to a plotter anymore sadly and while Lord Zsezse Works is awesome I don't think its quite what I'm looking for here. I really figured there would be some sort of program that would let me drag and drop stuff, but no luck yet aside from CC3. If you want to map the scene yourself, you should give Dundjinni (http://www.dundjinni.com/) a try. Even if you don't wanna buy the software, you can save loads of user-made objects of any kind from the forums and stack them together in Photoshop or GIMP, since all objects are PNG or JPG files...
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Post by endial on Nov 21, 2013 14:53:48 GMT -9
I don't have Access to a plotter anymore sadly and while Lord Zsezse Works is awesome I don't think its quite what I'm looking for here. I really figured there would be some sort of program that would let me drag and drop stuff, but no luck yet aside from CC3. If you want to map the scene yourself, you should give Dundjinni (http://www.dundjinni.com/) a try. Even if you don't wanna buy the software, you can save loads of user-made objects of any kind from the forums and stack them together in Photoshop or GIMP, since all objects are PNG or JPG files... Thats a great idea! I'm gonna do that Thanks~!
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Post by shep on Nov 21, 2013 15:03:45 GMT -9
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Post by endial on Nov 21, 2013 16:36:25 GMT -9
Ok Dundjinni buy link is not working
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Post by endial on Nov 21, 2013 19:09:30 GMT -9
Alright I guess this is my first official contribution to the forums, I couldn't get Dundjinni but I do have some rudimentary skills in Paint. I hope someone has some use for these. I know the road doesn't match up exactly but I didn't think of that till after words.
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Post by Vellcrow on Nov 21, 2013 19:47:35 GMT -9
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Post by aaron on Nov 21, 2013 20:08:38 GMT -9
so your looking for a gaming mat that is 7 feet long by 3 feet wide? if you used 8.5 x 11 inches papers that would be roughly 9.88 sheets long and 3 sheets wide ... that's a lot of ink LOL !
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Post by WackyAnne on Nov 22, 2013 0:11:51 GMT -9
Another possibility, which I believe has everything you are looking for in one set, is The Forge Studios' The Shady Forest Part2 - Abandoned Tracks for $7.96 @ RPGNow. They have both a complete rundown of the included tiles in the quick preview, and an overview in the full-size preview. Roads, grass/dirt, river, bridge, and other stuff you may want. And below are some of the older, less fancy Lord ZseZse sets that mproteau (Paper Realms) was suggesting: www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=82435&it=1 Ground Set #3 www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=82480&it=1 Ground Set #4 www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=84112&it=1 Expansion for the Ground set #4 Are these Pathfinder Maps? I do recall ready how someone converted the digital maps from the modules/adventure paths into miniature-scale battlemaps, but I can't find it quickly, I'm afraid. You could check in the forums @ Paizo.com... Also, are the squares really 1' = 5" in these maps? It seems a little off, to me. Your homemade solution should work fine, given enough ink, paper, and time. These are more ideas for the next time, or the next person reading this thread...
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Post by cowboyleland on Nov 22, 2013 5:05:20 GMT -9
Also, are the squares really 1' = 5" in these maps? It seems a little off, to me.
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Post by wyvern on Nov 22, 2013 5:33:52 GMT -9
All these scenarios that feature bridges in isolated locations really are fantasy. With the exception of Roman aqueducts, we really didn't build bridges outside of cities until we were using trains. Sorry Cowboyleland, I can't agree with this statement. Here in Britain there's archaeological evidence for Bronze Age probable bridge structures away from settlements of any size. Later, when the Romans arrived in the first century AD and imposed a new transport structure based on straight, paved roads, they built many new bridges wherever they were needed, regardless of settlements. Some seem to have been near or at earlier river crossing points (fords or bridges; the Roman archaeology may have destroyed any earlier remains of course). After the Romans left, parts of the road system remained in constant use, and some roads modernly still lie on the same or very similar lines. Bridges too were maintained by the locals where they were useful, and again regardless of where located in relation to settlements, or settlement size, as attested by archaeological and some written evidence from the post-Roman Saxon period, through the medieval and on to modernity. Indeed, some settlements seem to have grown up, or moved from an earlier location, precisely because there was already a bridge there. I'm aware similar things happened elsewhere in mainland Europe as well.
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Post by cowboyleland on Nov 22, 2013 8:01:25 GMT -9
Ok, I'm always willing to learn. I agree that the Roman empire was a great builder of roads, but I think they are the exception. Their empire depended on being able to move legions quickly and easily to wherever there were problems cropping up. I would be interested to read about pre-roman bridges in Britain, can you recommend a title or link? I can see locals maintaining useful bridges, but there have to be "locals." I can see on a very busy trade rout a village growing up around the industry of maintaining a local bridge or two, but then the rout is busy and there is a village nearby.
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Post by endial on Nov 22, 2013 12:10:11 GMT -9
Ohh the Humanity! My DM is Sick and has called the game off. (I make the maps and Props and never have to pay for Pizza and/or beer in exchange) So I have a Week or two to update this. Vellcrow I'm vexxed between the Wilderness Tile Designer and the Tiamat Tiles. Though I am leaning towards the former. Either way thank you sooo much for the resources here I know I will end up using something. aaron Funny you should mention that, as I printed the 2nd page of road my grass began to look like it was dying lol. I think I may scale down the map area to be more focused around the bridge. Something like using the 2 road pieces leading up to the bridge then the bridge and a road and grass page next to it. But yea alot of ink, ink I don't have it would seem. Time to pick some up I guess. WackyAnne They are indeed Pathfinder maps this is from the Council of theives adventure path and if someone made the maps into battlemaps that would truely be a wonderful resource. I have been trying to figure out why the map folio that is sold doesn't include battle mats for minis. I will have to check Paizo forums for what youre speaking on. They are 1' to 5" I think the map in the book that I posted may be too large or just too generalized. cowboyleland Thanks! I think in my haste to get something done I didn't look at the originals (oops) but I do distinctly remember after finishing having a thought along the lines of "Most characters could easily jump that river or just wade through it." Having spent my childhood playing in an offshoot of a river that was 5-10" wide it wasn't much of a hazard.
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Post by Vellcrow on Nov 22, 2013 13:39:57 GMT -9
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Post by WackyAnne on Nov 22, 2013 17:17:06 GMT -9
Thanks for the links, today and yesterday, Vellcrow. Despite months of pouring through the One Bookshelf sites, and looking through quite a few of 0One's products, I'd never seen these before, and they're right up my alley.
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Post by wyvern on Nov 23, 2013 5:32:07 GMT -9
Ok, I'm always willing to learn. I agree that the Roman empire was a great builder of roads, but I think they are the exception. Their empire depended on being able to move legions quickly and easily to wherever there were problems cropping up. I would be interested to read about pre-roman bridges in Britain, can you recommend a title or link? I can see locals maintaining useful bridges, but there have to be "locals." I can see on a very busy trade rout a village growing up around the industry of maintaining a local bridge or two, but then the rout is busy and there is a village nearby. Sorry to keep diverting the topic to ancient roads and bridges here, but hopefully it's of interest beyond myself and Cowboyleland! No, the Romans weren't all that exceptional in the ancient world in needing reliable transport routes, and were almost certainly simply creating better ones across a wider region than what had gone before. Evidence for regular long-distance trade routes around and linking with the Fertile Crescent area of the ancient Near East goes back to before the tenth millennium BC, for example, and while that doesn't imply paved roads or bridges, reliable routes must have developed to allow this kind of trading to continue, without any implied overall "central controlling" power, simply for convenience. And of course, settlements grew up along such routes, which (with archaeological dating evidence) allows us to identify and give probable date-ranges for the trackways/roads. Settlements then might or might not be at river crossing points still identifiable - sometimes even still used - today. The maintenance of roads (again without necessarily implying any particularly fancy nature to them, or enhancements like bridges) was important enough to feature repeatedly in surviving royal inscriptions from ancient Sumer and Akkad (modern southern Iraq) from the third millennium BC onwards, where such activities were apparently considered similarly significant to the building of palaces and temples. Pre-Roman British bridges: A detailed Google search will likely find more, but you could try the following online sources as a start: Vauxhall Bridge in what's now London (there've been suggestions a significant settlement "must" have been nearby, but nobody's found it yet if so - albeit it could be buried beneath part of London, of course!); several Bronze Age bridges found at Dorney, Buckinghamshire; or at the Testwood Water Reservoir in Hampshire (this link is to a PDF of a basic pre-construction archaeological report, which has some handy images and reconstruction drawings). One main snag is the readily-datable bridges from this time tend to be of timber, so need still-wet environments to have partly survived modernly, and the investigations have often not spanned far enough afield to be certain whether settlements, and of what size, may have lain where in respect to the bridges. The Dorney bridges have been suggested as intended for use by animals, to reach better pasture from settlements across the river, which is an interesting, very unmilitary, idea. Probably the most famous British Bronze Age bridge, albeit actually called a "causeway" because of its great size - five rows of supporting timbers about a kilometre long (half a mile or so) survive of it - is at Flag Fen, Cambridgeshire. I've linked here to the Wikipedia page, mostly because it has a map and some useful images, more so than on the "official" Flag Fen tourist information site, ironically... If you do go hunting for more, beware of the stone clapper bridges (from the Latin claperius, "a pile of stones"), as these are more likely medieval in origin, although they're sometimes claimed as being Bronze Age. OK, tutorial over
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Post by cowboyleland on Nov 23, 2013 5:54:52 GMT -9
Thanks Wyvern! I (for one) will follow all of those links right after I finish my chores for the day. Edit 36 hours later. Those were interesting links. I admit to being a little more interested in the weapons they found than the bridges. I think Wyvern and I are both right. Bridges may have been more common than I implied but they do seem to be associated with settlements or habitation. To get us back on topic; Endial why not lobby Dave Graffam to have his creek battlemat be exactly what you need?
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Post by endial on Nov 26, 2013 6:31:43 GMT -9
To get us back on topic; Endial why not lobby Dave Graffam to have his creek battlemat be exactly what you need? I didn't know he had non sci fi battlemats... I must be missing something, do you have a link to the creek battlemat? After another look I found this www.davesgames.net/catalog-rakes-corner-map.htm is that what youre talking about? PS. I have until the 6th now come up with the battle mat Time is nice but I miss playing.
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Post by cowboyleland on Nov 26, 2013 10:19:31 GMT -9
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Post by Vellcrow on Nov 26, 2013 15:39:08 GMT -9
Thanks for the links, today and yesterday, Vellcrow. Despite months of pouring through the One Bookshelf sites, and looking through quite a few of 0One's products, I'd never seen these before, and they're right up my alley. You are very welcome.
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Post by kiladecus on Nov 26, 2013 18:03:10 GMT -9
Ok, let me chime in...
For ME (excuse my over-use of capitalization), the *best* option is tiles. If you look at the two maps, both feature a lot of the same components (road, rocks, grass, etc).
The one, of course, has a bridge, river and what appears to be a well. If you used tiles (6x6 or 7x7) you could use them as you need and change the maps up slightly. You could easily adapt these components to make your own maps, as well.
I am HARDLY the definitive person to help you with these (seeing as I just released my first commercial map this past week), but I can *try* to help you.
Email me a 3"x3" (75mm x 75mm) section of your grass (without the black lines) and let me see what I can do. I can handle most of the terrain (like the bridge, and so forth), but I like that grass texture a lot.
As far as the width of your river, the actual map shows it 4-5 squares (20 - 25 feet/6.6 - 8.3 meters) wide. In your home-made map, it was only 1 square. I would do it as 4 or 5 (as per the original map).
Shoot me the texture, and I will *try* to have something for you by the weekend. The sooner I get it, the more likely I am to have it done. Between work and the holidays, if I don't get it by Friday, then I can't help you.
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Post by endial on Nov 27, 2013 4:37:04 GMT -9
kiladecus Thank you for offering to help me out, I sent the grass texture to your email as an attachment, though I sent the file in its raw form (1028x1028 I believe) When I get to work I will try to make it 3" x 3" which is 216 pixels x 216 pixels I believe (I have paint and Gimp and not sure how to really use Gimp well yet). Again Thanks sir.
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Post by kiladecus on Nov 27, 2013 7:43:59 GMT -9
Today was my day off, so I was able to shoot you 9 pages of tiles (I believe they are 7x9).
There are:
Road Grass/Tree River Bridge/River Cliff end 2 cliff sections Cliff end 2 BONUS: Camp
I figure with these pieces you can print out as many tiles as you want, and make custom maps. It is a pretty universal set of ground tiles. I ran out of time, or else I would have tried to get more to you.
Check your email, it should be waiting there for you.
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Post by kiladecus on Nov 27, 2013 8:14:57 GMT -9
Here is an example of how you can build it using the various pieces. I am sorry I didn't have more time to devote to this.
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Post by endial on Nov 28, 2013 17:02:56 GMT -9
I just want to say kiladecus has done great work here. This has fulfilled my need 110% Thank you sir
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Post by kiladecus on Nov 29, 2013 3:46:50 GMT -9
I try to do what I promise. I can't always do that, but I am a firm believer in keeping my promises.
I explained that I had a small window of time I could do this, and you were able to get me what I needed in a timely manner, so it is really largely due to your quick response.
I am not sure if anyone else would be interested in these, but if you are, shoot me an email with the words, "Terrain Tiles" in the subject line, and I will send them to you. Or, if the powers that be here, would like, I can send them to YOU, and you can post them somewhere on the site here.
EDIT I am not sure how to tag people in the forum, so if someone could see that Squirmydad sees this post, I would appreciate it.
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Post by squirmydad on Nov 29, 2013 8:35:42 GMT -9
I try to do what I promise. I can't always do that, but I am a firm believer in keeping my promises. I explained that I had a small window of time I could do this, and you were able to get me what I needed in a timely manner, so it is really largely due to your quick response. I am not sure if anyone else would be interested in these, but if you are, shoot me an email with the words, "Terrain Tiles" in the subject line, and I will send them to you. Or, if the powers that be here, would like, I can send them to YOU, and you can post them somewhere on the site here. EDIT I am not sure how to tag people in the forum, so if someone could see that Squirmydad sees this post, I would appreciate it. I SEE YOU.... I try to skim through everything here. Just pop them into your Google dive/Amazon Cloud drive/Dropbox and post the download link here. No problem kiladecus Tagging is accomplished by adding @ before a persons username, I think WackyAnne discovered that.
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