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Post by kiladecus on Feb 28, 2014 19:10:55 GMT -9
Hello... Well, I am here to announce I am working on ANOTHER Fantasy/Steam-Pirate set. I got a good response from the set of figures and cards for the Relic Hunters, so now I am doing the same thing. This time, the theme is DRAGON SLAYERS! Here are some WIPs of the line art I am doing. Here is the first guy. He is a tough little bugger that has seen some action. He has the scars to prove it, and that double-bladed dragon lance has seen some action, as well. The second is one that comes from the Land Of Dragons himself. Most of his clan adore dragons, but for some reason, he has turned into a dragon slayer. The third has a more "Viking" feel to him. Ok... stay tuned for more updates and some colored images (once I have them done).
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Post by kiladecus on Feb 28, 2014 19:15:43 GMT -9
Please keep in mind that these are WIPs, and the final images will look more uniform and be truly *black,* and not the various greyscales.
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Post by WackyAnne on Mar 1, 2014 6:11:08 GMT -9
Please keep in mind that these are WIPs, and the final images will look more uniform and be truly *black,* and not the various greyscales. These look terrific, kil! It seems you're back in the saddle again - I don't think they even need parduzing - or did you pre-parduz? (Wow, my phone is recognizing parduz as an actual word now o.O )
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 1, 2014 6:25:06 GMT -9
I agree with WackeyAnne, I think all the proportions are right and they have a good level of detail. IF you were looking for a way to up your game for next time, I would suggest slightly more dynamic poses. The top one could be doing a deeper lunge, for example, and the cloak and the chain on the second could be swooping around in very cool ways. The third guy has a nicely distinct silhouette despite "just standing there." Like I said, they do look good, just something to think about for next time. This is certainly a case of me "teaching" what I most need to learn.
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Post by kiladecus on Mar 1, 2014 11:46:46 GMT -9
WackyAnne: Thank you SO much for the kind words. I think I am starting to see some improvements overall. As far as Parduzing, he and I are pretty good friends, and when drawing the first two, I actually asked myself what Parduz would say. The third one, I actually had him look over a few weeks ago. I cleaned that figure up on three separate sittings (hence the various degrees of "black." When I cut and paste, I literally CUT and PASTE!). cowboyleland: Yeah, the poses are not very dramatic. I have ALWAYS lacked that in my poses. That said, allow me to "defend" these poses. The first one (a.k.a. the "good" one) has his legs bent, and he is hunched over, ready to strike. I see his moving similar to Ray Park in, well, ANYTHING he is in! The big Viking dude, is pretty big. With both of these figures, I have to be cognizant of the space they take up on the character sheet. The more dramatic a pose is, the more space it takes up. The big guy is vertually a tank. The first guy is like Inego Montoya*... scrappy, agile and all about offensive. The last guy is more like Fezzik*... big, slow and all about powerful strikes. *- If you don't understand these references, then you are dead to me.
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Post by dungeonmistress on Mar 1, 2014 13:14:39 GMT -9
They're great! My personal favorite is the first one, I think he's handsome!
"You killed my father! Prepare to die!"
DM
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Post by kiladecus on Mar 1, 2014 13:31:59 GMT -9
Ok, DM... We are now officially friends now.
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Post by Parduz on Mar 1, 2014 14:29:09 GMT -9
Oh good Lord, am i in the phone's dictionaries, now? Not a fan of the second one (not your fault, i just don't like feudal/modern japanese style/art), but the other two are just great. Very good job!
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Post by dungeonmistress on Mar 1, 2014 15:00:48 GMT -9
Hooray! You're my friend! If I seem a little weird today, it's because of all the high winds around here. I can actually see the walls move in my trailer when the wind hits them a certain way. Spooky. And now Kiladecus says we are now officially friends! I'm afraid it's going to my head!
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Post by kiladecus on Mar 1, 2014 17:02:46 GMT -9
Going to YOUR head? Parduz said he liked my work, and didn't offer suggestions. While we are sharing warm and fuzzy feelings, let's see the FOURTH Dragon Slayer...
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Post by dungeonmistress on Mar 1, 2014 17:19:12 GMT -9
Yeah! Equal badassness for women! I am woman, hear me ROAR!
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Post by kiladecus on Mar 1, 2014 18:26:09 GMT -9
You go, Katy Perry! Here is another sneak peek of the one figures that EVERYONE can agree on... Any thoughts?
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Post by Brave Adventures on Mar 1, 2014 20:13:48 GMT -9
Those are looking great! I like the Japanese guy's chain weapon. Do all your Deadly Missions sets include paper minis?
Ryan
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Post by dungeonmistress on Mar 1, 2014 20:14:55 GMT -9
Katy Perry? Not hardly! That was Helen Reddy, Katy Perry wasn't even born when Helen Reddy was making it big. 'I Am Woman, Hear Me Roar!' became the anthem for the Woman's Movement through most of the seventies.
As to your figure, I like his horns, they're part of his helmet, right? Does he have any brothers? (No. Disregard that, he's paper and I'm married.)
It's the wind, it's the wind! I swear it's the wind!
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 1, 2014 20:17:13 GMT -9
Hey Kil,
I am alive to you. I own a grand total of 2 DVDs. One is Princess Bride, the other is Big Trouble in Little China. Yeah, I like this forum OK.
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Post by WackyAnne on Mar 2, 2014 3:47:55 GMT -9
You know, kil, Inigo at least gave his enemies a chance to prepare, AND fought left handed - you should be a little more gentle My sister & I watched that movie so many times I think we may have worn out the rental. Once almost grown up, I actually met an Anglican priest who had nearly the same speech defect- it was hard not to giggle around him.
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Post by kiladecus on Mar 2, 2014 3:54:29 GMT -9
Well, even if YOU didn't get the Princess Bride references, you would always be alive to me, CBL. We go back. @brave Adventures: Well, all Deadly Missions set have paper figures. The majority of the Fantasy sets include a mix of the following: *- High-quality, hand-drawn figures with mirrored front and back (featuring images from TORN WORLD RPG and ANOINTED/MANTLE OF THE GODS [Dark SKull Studios]). *- Fantasy Adventures hand-drawn figures (from @reivaj Minis) (These figures are available via bundles or sold separately). The majority of what is left is CG stuff I did, and as of late, I returned to hand-drawn figures. All of the stuff that I draw or render is included in the sets. ALL of the modern/horror and Sci-Fi stuff includes CG figures by me, or figures from DRAMASCAPE. The beauty is the maps. There are gorgeous map tiles from INKED ADVENTURES, DRAMASCAPE, NEMO, and OLD SCHOOL DUNGEONS. (There are a couple map sets that I did, but they fail in comparison). I hope that helps to answer your question.
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Post by WackyAnne on Mar 2, 2014 5:36:47 GMT -9
Oh, yes, ON TOPIC thoughts... I love the guy's colours, though am starting to think that you should gather your b&w images into a colouring book as your next Family Missions release... And If I can do a little parduzzing* myself, the lady's legs seem a little slight, and twisted over a little too far to the side. Aside from that, I like her very much! * to parduz: (verb, transitive) meaning to critique, with a keen eye and a kind heart, a work of gaming papercraft, especially a paper miniature.
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Post by kiladecus on Mar 2, 2014 6:44:08 GMT -9
You're probably right. I will try to fix that in the coloring stage. This was a tricky pose. My wife pointed out in the pencil drawing (pre-inked) that she looked like a man (which she says on EVERY female I draw). I thinned her out, and that made the legs "tricky." BTW, the phrase, "You're probably right," translates to "You *are* right, but there is nothing I can do about it at this point because it is a LOT of work to correct in a drawing. If it were a render, I could change it and move on (but then again, not many issues with renders)." I use that phrase a LOT with cowboyleland.
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Post by kiladecus on Mar 2, 2014 15:32:06 GMT -9
Here is the second of the "finished" figures.
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Post by kiladecus on Mar 2, 2014 19:19:35 GMT -9
Ok. I was going for a Viking hero, but I decided at the end to go a little different direction. I wanted to do something different with his heeter, co I added a proverb I made up on the fly.
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Post by WackyAnne on Mar 2, 2014 19:20:34 GMT -9
You're probably right. I will try to fix that in the coloring stage. This was a tricky pose. My wife pointed out in the pencil drawing (pre-inked) that she looked like a man (which she says on EVERY female I draw). I thinned her out, and that made the legs "tricky." BTW, the phrase, "You're probably right," translates to "You *are* right, but there is nothing I can do about it at this point because it is a LOT of work to correct in a drawing. If it were a render, I could change it and move on (but then again, not many issues with renders)." I use that phrase a LOT with cowboyleland. I know, m'dear, and she doesn't look unacceptable at all, and I know how much trouble it would be to change (or, at least I have some idea). The only thing you might consider during the colouring is seeing if you can make her forward foot appear less perpendicular to the viewer. That's the part that stands out (just a little), and gives her an almost mincing step. You may need to defend your figures to your wife - She doesn't look like a man, she looks like a warrior! Fantasy figure she may be, but doesn't mean she needs to be _that_ kind of fantasy female As I was just thinking earlier when reading one of my younger son's favourite stories (he's a huge fire engine fan), women in traditionally "manly" professions like soldiers/knights/paladins/warriors and yes, firefighters, wouldn't look terribly feminine. They would have to look strong, muscled, and practical in their dress and styling. So likely they'd be stocky (or at least well-muscled), short hair (long hair is a pain to maintain, tangles, gets caught in things, etc, etc.), and battle-hardened, so might not be at first recognizable as female. But of course you know all that I'm just rambling again, and drifting further and further off-topic...
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Post by WackyAnne on Mar 2, 2014 19:23:54 GMT -9
Ok. I was going for a Viking hero, but I decided at the end to go a little different direction. I wanted to do something different with his heeter, co I added a proverb I made up on the fly. I LOVE IT! A shame it'll not show up on the tabletop - you'll have to use him as the cover image for your DM handbook! And shame on me for not looking at the figs on my computer until now - when he was black & white and only on my iPhone, I thought you still had to do the head
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Post by pavaro on Mar 2, 2014 22:15:32 GMT -9
Kiladecus tell me, what techniques do you use to paint?
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Post by kiladecus on Mar 3, 2014 2:40:11 GMT -9
WackyAnne, I thought about that, but it *should* show up on the character card. I am not too worried about that. The point is it is a verse or proverb... kind of like a banner or standard. If people can't read it, it may actually serve a better purpose. pavaro: I use permanent markers (in the U.S. we have a brand called "Sharpie"). I may have posted this before somewhere, but here is my full technique (minus Parduzing). 1) Draw in pencil, and clean it up as much as I can to where it looks like what I was shooting for. 2) Use black markers to "ink" it. I have three different marker sizes; fine (ball-point pen size), standard, and chisel-tip (for borders). 3) Scan it and use GiMP to make it "true black." 4) Print the "new" image and color it using the markers. 5) Scan the colored image, and use GiMP to "enhance the colors. That is it. Not very interesting, I'm afraid... much like me. I know that there are better artist that have better, more elaborate techniques, but this is "how I roll."
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Post by kiladecus on Mar 3, 2014 11:24:25 GMT -9
Well, you can't have a set of dragon slayers without having a dragon or three. I am pretty happy with the way this turned out. This has a 2.5D option as well.
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Post by dungeonmistress on Mar 3, 2014 11:53:03 GMT -9
Love all of it! Especially the dragon. I'm a huge dragon fan. The only thing I'd do is make his tail a little longer, give him better balance - otherwise he's perfect! Can't wait to see him colored! Have I mentioned that purple is my favorite color? Beautiful work, Kiladecus
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Post by kiladecus on Mar 3, 2014 12:23:10 GMT -9
Well, I have a certain space to fit the dragon in. I couldn't make the tail longer without making the whole thing smaller. I wanted it to be 3 inches (75mm) long.
Thanks for the encouragement. I would like to do a purple dragon, but I need to do a green one first, because it is more "common."
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Post by dungeonmistress on Mar 3, 2014 12:32:25 GMT -9
Oh, yeah. Those pesky space requirements! I'll wait for a purple dragon, get all those 'common' dragons out of the way first! Lol! Just remember (she said teasingly), dragons are my heart, so the purple one must be spectacular!
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 3, 2014 12:55:18 GMT -9
The tail could wrap around, a bit.
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