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Post by mesper on Mar 14, 2014 16:14:57 GMT -9
Ancient/Jungle temple fantasy scenery setup.Universal scale ( UNI-SCALE /tm) quality scenery and terrain sets works perfectly with ALL your 25-35mm minis! Don't settle for less!You can easily adjust these quality scenery figs even to 15-20mm or 60mm scale according to your gaming needs! Need some more quality UNI-SCALE props and scenery? Stay tuned...
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Post by mesper on Mar 16, 2014 10:09:16 GMT -9
Here's more... I'm working on more statues / sculptures - so it could be possible to build kinda alley of hero statues Not sure yet, should there be different colour / texture versions - kinda green / brown-red marble or perhaps even some "golden" statues? Would it be useful, want some more?
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 16, 2014 18:57:15 GMT -9
Statue textures that spring to mind that I think would be cool are: mossy stone, green bronze, sure, maybe some gold. Maybe a set of un-ruined statues?
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Post by mesper on Mar 17, 2014 0:35:54 GMT -9
... Maybe a set of un-ruined statues? Nice idea, so why not! +challenging one - exactly the SAME statue in two versions: ruined and "brand new" (and as a third option fallen statue?
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Post by WackyAnne on Mar 17, 2014 2:45:42 GMT -9
Extra desert version, at some point? These look great so far!
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Post by mesper on Mar 17, 2014 4:25:49 GMT -9
Extra desert version, at some point? <...> As you wish, Milady...
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Post by cowboyleland on Mar 17, 2014 4:48:50 GMT -9
Reminds me of Shelly's Ozymandias.
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Post by migibb on Mar 17, 2014 5:56:31 GMT -9
Or the Statue of Liberty at the end of Planet of the Apes....?
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Post by mesper on Mar 17, 2014 13:02:52 GMT -9
Well... not demanded but... as there are already jungle/rain forest and desert settings then so what's left?.. SUNKEN TEMPLE perhaps? (sorry for rather crude mock-up but hopefully it shows the idea?) And please don't ask for any kind of "airy / sky" or "windy" or "clouds" version - frankly speaking no idea how to do these as paper minis...
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Post by Parduz on Mar 17, 2014 15:51:16 GMT -9
Well, it only lack snow, now ...and perhaps a tropical jungle
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Post by squirmydad on Mar 17, 2014 21:07:00 GMT -9
I second the idea of ruins in jungles. So I'm not sure I understand, in the first post I thought you were just playing around, are you actually making some kind of two dimensional or three dimensional scenery? Or just backdrops? I like the look of these, whatever they are.
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Post by pavaro on Mar 18, 2014 9:09:31 GMT -9
Mesper do you have any trick on "water effect"? I don't want use ready textures.
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Post by dungeonmistress on Mar 18, 2014 10:43:37 GMT -9
8-)I love this idea! (Jumping up & down)
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Post by mesper on Mar 18, 2014 11:31:03 GMT -9
I was writing when new posts appeared, hopefully addressed them all? Well, it only lack snow, now ...and perhaps a tropical jungle OK - here is winter version (Frozen Temple?) for you! Regarding jungle - err... was pretty sure that first and second previews shows ruins in jungles. Hmm... Obviously I failed as Squirmy didn't recognised jungle setting too - now I need to think how to/what change to make it feeling more "junglish" So I'm not sure I understand, in the first post I thought you were just playing around, are you actually making some kind of two dimensional or three dimensional scenery? Or just backdrops? First two previews are kinda side-effect (I was working on Fantasy Portals and Roma Aeterna series Roman Scenery). But now, after some suggestions and influence of CW Forums users in this thread I'm seriously considering releasing Ancient Temple Ruins within Permes EASY Scenery series - so in general flat/2D scenery, perhaps with some 3D elements (like foundations?) So, if such set (sets?) will be ever released it will be in some parts kinda CW users "common" project! Not sure though if all versions/settings together in one set (it would be couple dozens of pages!) --- Ad. Playing around Well I need to say that I was somehow worried after recent 28Terrain thread posts. It was appearing at some point that there is an attempt ( =>>>funny thing is that it's here, on forums dedicated and focused mostly on minis/figurines!!!) to establish some new terrain standard which by definition will be preferring only one minis size/scale (or in other words excluding all scales except 28mm). While I'm OK with the SirKev's idea and attempt to unify some standards and issues (so users/customers life will be easier), I'm really afraid that some of customers might be confused and will refuse to buy other scale figurines sets (including Permes, as I'm stating on covers that mine minis are 30mm scale:) after they read that sets/models which are compatible with 28Terrain works with 28mm minis only (and BTW vice versa - those who bought 25mm or 30mmm or 32mm figurines could be unwilling to get 28Terrain for the same reason). Well I know that users from CW forums are much more experienced and "paper minis educated" - we can see here that people are modding and recoloring minis, they can apply various basing systems and rescale figurines according to needs. In fact most of CWF users can do probably everything with minis - so potential problem is with so called casual or average users. So that is why I launched this UNI-SCALE joke-project - just to bring attention to possible problem which eventually might hurt many authors and publishers. It is not ment to be something serious, once again it's rather a joke-form - you know, something like vote for PAPER MINIS SCALE DEMOCRACY (OMG... what did I say?! the one can't just joking about democracy... ) Mesper do you have any trick on "water effect"? I don't want use ready textures. Well I don't. But I can tell how I did this particular "water" - and in fact it's not a trick by any means, rather use of some basic techniques: //BTW it might be succesfully used also for clouded sky, ground/dirt and many other purposes - just try it out and experiment// -apply Ps standard "cloud" or any similar filter on an empty layer and then flat the layer -erase (using different "soft" brushes) parts of layer - so resulting shape will be kinda wave-form -apply some distortion effect (resize and/or stretch so you will get different effect-sizes versions) -apply some additional "surface effect" (dots, blurs etc. you may use almost any non-rectangular shape textures here) -you may add some layers with gradients (so you will obtain from dark to lite effect) -you may also add manually some smudges (darker for wave bottom and white for foam) on top -apply colour layer (copy and repeat for dark and soft blueish and greenish colours) -copy layers then and stretch / resize - so you will receive couple of different wave versions (you can also use smudge tool here and there) - goal is to achieve several elements/parts -cut and mix these "wave" layers, so you will receive couple of separate versions -as a final touch use soft eraser so some edges will be blurred or soften and some parts of different waves will be merged -apply final colour gradient or effects -profit Well, the best practice is to experiment - sooner or later you will receive interesting/acceptable effect and then you can play with adjusting some details. Nah, reading this... I'd never be able to recreate it... LOL Perhaps I should post something like short tutorial with screensaves (or will point you to some resources) later?
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Post by Parduz on Mar 18, 2014 11:59:41 GMT -9
Regarding jungle - err... was pretty sure that first and second previews shows ruins in jungles. Hmm... Obviously I failed as Squirmy didn't recognised jungle setting too - now I need to think how to/what change to make it feeling more "junglish"
It seems more a "normal" forest, to me .... even now that you say that should be a jungle. Dunno what it needs to look more a rainforest.... perhaps larger foliage?
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Mar 18, 2014 12:03:45 GMT -9
I dunno. I looked at it and thought it smacked of a clearing in a jungle setting. Most of the forests around me don't have everything covered in moss and vines tangling things. Ok. There are vines, but my vines look like lousy invasive stuff from a US suburb, and the ones in the first pictures look like jungle vines to me.
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Post by squirmydad on Mar 18, 2014 12:10:48 GMT -9
First one looked like mossy overgrown ruins, I think I'd get "Jungle" if there were palm trees in the background. The problem is just my lack of imagination, not your art.
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Post by migibb on Mar 18, 2014 16:18:33 GMT -9
More broadleaved plants would give it more of a junglish feel. And perhaps more yellows among the greens in the pallette?
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Post by mesper on Mar 18, 2014 16:26:47 GMT -9
More broadleaved plants would give it more of a junglish feel. And perhaps more yellows among the greens in the pallette? Hmm... yep - sounds OK / will try out! THNX
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Post by WackyAnne on Mar 19, 2014 3:06:25 GMT -9
Extra desert version, at some point? <...> As you wish, Milady... Thank you, m'lord Mesper!
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Post by wyvern on Mar 19, 2014 6:08:41 GMT -9
...I'm seriously considering releasing Ancient Temple Ruins within Permes EASY Scenery series - so in general flat/2D scenery, perhaps with some 3D elements (like foundations?) So, if such set (sets?) will be ever released it will be in some parts kinda CW users "common" project! Not sure though if all versions/settings together in one set (it would be couple dozens of pages!) Excellent idea; I'd welcome 2, 2.5 or 3D scenic elements! One option for the set might be to use PDF layers, assuming the basic wall, columns, etc., patterns would stay the same, so changing just the setting colours and vegetation between layers. But a large multi-page set would work almost as well (and probably would be easier to construct for you!). 28Terrain: I'm not convinced the 28Terrain concept is really going anywhere, or that it'll provide any help for customers beyond what stating the scale, giving a complete description and showing good images of the product on OBS, for example, already does. Maybe just one of those things that seemed like a good idea until the discussion started...
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Post by mesper on Mar 20, 2014 18:10:36 GMT -9
<...> Excellent idea; I'd welcome 2, 2.5 or 3D scenic elements! One option for the set might be to use PDF layers, assuming the basic wall, columns, etc., patterns would stay the same, so changing just the setting colours and vegetation between layers. But a large multi-page set would work almost as well (and probably would be easier to construct for you!). You're right, multi-page (non layered) set would be perhaps easier to construct but also could suit better to my previous sets and overall style - the only thing is that the final file might be really HUGE!
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Post by dungeonmistress on Mar 20, 2014 18:20:19 GMT -9
Maybe you could break up the download into parts: !a,1b,1c...2a,2b,2c etc...? I don't really know anything about how it's done, so just ignore me if I'm talking non-sense.
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Post by mesper on Mar 29, 2014 16:20:01 GMT -9
Maybe you could break up the download into parts: !a,1b,1c...2a,2b,2c etc...? <...> Tempting idea!
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Post by dungeonmistress on Mar 29, 2014 17:08:03 GMT -9
I'm a genius, right?
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Post by dungeonmistress on Mar 30, 2014 8:05:50 GMT -9
Alright, putting on my genius style thinking cap (as opposed to the dunce cap that sits here in the corner with me, there really isn't much difference, except the genius one has more geegaws and shiny bits on it), I'll try to come up with something helpful. First off, if I understand bravesirkevin correctly, the Best Practices format he is trying to put together is meant to be global, but there are areas that need to be addressed separately. For instance 15mm and 28mm represent two very different terrain systems with different needs. Sir Kev is not excluding one in favor of another, simply addressing the 28 mm terrain first and establishing Best Practices for that before moving on to 15mm and the rest. However; I cannot say that I am unhappy that your concerns have have triggered this current deluge of creativity! Next: I love this back drop you have created, it can be very adaptable. I mentioned before about breaking up the set into parts, that's one way to go, another (and please remember that I am completely ignorant of the mechanics involved) would be to make your different 'climates' in layers? Is that possible? And then there's the jungle. Having lived in a sub-tropical region, I am familiar with jungles and I have to agree with squirmydad and migibb, that the first panel looks to be more mixed (deciduous and fir) forest than jungle. The vines are fine but should be flowered or fruiting (think plumnaria flowers and papaya fruit). Instead of moss, think mushrooms (the 'shelf' type and the brightly colored hallucinogenics), The trees should be broad leaved, like elephant ears, rubber tree plants, fig trees (palms are more from desert regions, Palm Springs, Palm dessert - I lived there, too, for awhile) and things from the Jurassic era. Maybe pineapples growing in the foreground? Lots of deep blue/greens and and red earth. The sky should reflect that, Azure blue with a few clouds. Or a really brilliant sunset. Don't know if any of this will be helpful to you, but that's my to cents worth (for you mesper - gratis). I particularly like this back drop in all of it's manifestations! Lovely work! BTW: My players will be going into the mountains (Mt Pelor - an active volcano) in the middle of winter soon, I could really use that winter ruins scene you have - hint, hint
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Post by squirmydad on Mar 31, 2014 12:23:46 GMT -9
First off, if I understand bravesirkevin correctly, the Best Practices format he is trying to put together is meant to be global, but there are areas that need to be addressed separately. For instance 15mm and 28mm represent two very different terrain systems with different needs. Sir Kev is not excluding one in favor of another, simply addressing the 28 mm terrain first and establishing Best Practices for that before moving on to 15mm and the rest. However; I cannot say that I am unhappy that your concerns have have triggered this current deluge of creativity! I moved the replies to this observation to the 28Terrain discussion thread over here; 28T
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Post by mesper on Mar 31, 2014 13:13:58 GMT -9
I moved the replies to this observation to the 28Terrain discussion thread over here; 28TFine by me - thanks. --- BUT @ squirmydad that reminds me another issue (not directly connected with DM or SirKev's posts)... Well thing is that I don't have MODERATOR rights in my own publisher's sub-board (while all other publishers did?) I was mentioning regarding this topic some time ago but as it's not an crucial issue for me I didn't follow-up =>>>There was some problems with my account (most probably caused by me to be honest! after ProBoards changes/system transition (thus probably why I've only 200+ posts on counter instead of >1000 BTW which is not an issue for me) - so probably that's both a reason and result? Just to make it clear - not a big deal or problem here - but such rights might be useful/helpful in some cases (there was no need so far but still...) So please either grant me these "privilege" rights or let me know why I'm not allowed or just fully ban me?
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Post by squirmydad on Mar 31, 2014 16:24:01 GMT -9
I moved the replies to this observation to the 28Terrain discussion thread over here; 28TFine by me - thanks. --- BUT @ squirmydad that reminds me another issue (not directly connected with DM or SirKev's posts)... Well thing is that I don't have MODERATOR rights in my own publisher's sub-board (while all other publishers did?) I was mentioning regarding this topic some time ago but as it's not an crucial issue for me I didn't follow-up =>>>There was some problems with my account (most probably caused by me to be honest! after ProBoards changes/system transition (thus probably why I've only 200+ posts on counter instead of >1000 BTW which is not an issue for me) - so probably that's both a reason and result? Just to make it clear - not a big deal or problem here - but such rights might be useful/helpful in some cases (there was no need so far but still...) So please either grant me these "privilege" rights or let me know why I'm not allowed or just fully ban me? Done! The adding privileges part, not the banning part. Thought I'd already done that, weird. Let me know if you have any more problems in your house.
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Post by dungeonmistress on Mar 31, 2014 18:05:07 GMT -9
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