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Post by Vermin King on May 15, 2014 17:27:17 GMT -9
Yes, but the Toruk has a lot of red on it
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Post by aaron on May 15, 2014 18:27:11 GMT -9
well camouflaged doesn't print well and you can't really see it on the battlefield so I went with Macaw what do you think?
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Post by wildagreenbough on May 15, 2014 19:24:29 GMT -9
Macaw suits a Jara bird really well, I like that Aaron
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Post by migibb on May 15, 2014 23:24:27 GMT -9
I actually prefer the red over the green myself.
But more importantly, it needs some kind of pattern on the plumage to break it up. At the moment, it looks too cartoony......
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Post by Parduz on May 15, 2014 23:49:10 GMT -9
well camouflaged doesn't print well and you can't really see it on the battlefield so I went with Macaw what do you think? Am i the only one that thought at this:
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Post by mahotsukai on May 16, 2014 0:13:32 GMT -9
I like the red as a counter point to all the green, but also think it is too 'cartoony' bright. I suggest changing the body to #B40000 or some such similar colour, fading out to original colour on crest, tail and extremities of the wing. Also change the beak and claws to a paler colour like #FFFF80.
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Post by aaron on May 16, 2014 5:04:00 GMT -9
I see what your saying about the bright cartoony-ness of it but remember when you print it you're going to go from constructive coloring (what you see when the computer combines light waves with different frequencies to create a certain color )to a destructive coloring (when your printer taints the, or near pure albedo of a white piece of paper to reduce it's ability to reflect light) In layman's terms the image will get much duller when you print it, especially at 28MM so a super cartoony bright Jara bird will print as a dull green Jara bird and adding lots of texture or pattern will just make it look convoluted. Honestly I think I went a bit overboard on the knights themselves but I wanted them to pop as they are the secondary focal point of your army. The Dragon will be the first the knights will always be the second and the wizard will be the third. they are the most dangerous pieces on the table hands down. so that's where the eyes will go. If you can crack that code then everything else is just mop up really. ok so I added a stripy speckle pattern using mahotsukai red color but I like the Beak and claws to POP there we have it the Jara Bird in all it's glory. oh yes Parduz your right on the money with this one! My Friend Brian for whom all of this is being done wanted something more like final fantasy chocobo. I compromised and made it more like Joust my ALL TIME FAVORITE video game from the 80's I still love it ! and this is a secret between me and you so SHHHHH don't tell anyone but I'm working on another Splinterwood Mini game based on Joust .... but don't tell anyone as I don't know when it will be done
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Post by Parduz on May 16, 2014 5:38:02 GMT -9
eheh, as a pre-teen dreaming about being a musician, i felt in love for Joust even before haveing seen the monitor: the sound it makes when it raises is, along with the sound effects in Defender, one of the most "catchy" sounds i ever heard
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Post by dungeonmistress on May 16, 2014 5:40:52 GMT -9
Good Morning, aaron! While I'm still trying to get both of my eyes to open at the same time, I have to say that your latest incarnation of the Jara Bird works. I think you added just enough pattern and contrast. I just had a thought (dangerous, I know, especially at this time of the morning), but why not make a few Jara's sans raiders. They could be like trained guard/attack dogs - or rather guard/attack birds. This is feasible because predatory animals are usually of a higher order of intelligence than prey animals and can therefore be trained. **Hey, I heard you whispering to Parduz about the new mini game, sounds pretty cool! Don't worry, I won't tell anyone, mum's the word!** I think I see wildagreenbough over there! Hey, Wilda! Guess what I just heard?...
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Post by Vermin King on May 16, 2014 5:46:57 GMT -9
I just had a thought (dangerous, I know, especially at this time of the morning), but why not make a few Jara's sans raiders. They could be like trained guard/attack dogs - or rather guard/attack birds. This is feasible because predatory animals are usually of a higher order of intelligence than prey animals and can therefore be trained. I like that thought. Sort of like McCaffrey's Watchwhers, only not as ugly. Are these caught and trained? Or are they raised for competition? A Jara-rustling raid would be an interesting scenario in a game
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Post by cowboyleland on May 16, 2014 7:49:00 GMT -9
[quote author=" Vermin King" source="/post/59497/thread" timestamp="1400251617 Are these caught and trained? Or are they raised for competition? A Jara-rustling raid would be an interesting scenario in a game [/quote] I don't think there is a right answer to this. I mean this is fiction, right? It is not like the difference between a centaur and a faun
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Post by dungeonmistress on May 16, 2014 8:05:30 GMT -9
ROFLM*O!
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on May 16, 2014 10:00:38 GMT -9
These remind me of the dragoturkeys of the game Dofus, though not as silly looking. They are bred/trained with some pretty funny equipment...
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Post by aaron on May 16, 2014 11:38:54 GMT -9
ok so lets see yes , yea and sure why not ... and a wizard did it ... yep that should just about cover it! so yes the the Splinterwood elves hand raise their Jara birds. there are many wild flocks of Jara birds wrangling them would be some what of a challenge as they are about 9 feet tall and weighs in at a monster 600 lbs. Think like your trying to wrangle a bunch of velociraptors. It can be done it's just extremely dangerous. Knolls will hunt them just for the rush. Knolls like to take male Jara birds and fight them in a pit among other animals. Jara birds are pretty vishous and I wouldn't want to mess with one. that's why the Splinterwood elves like them for mounts in combat the Jara bird will often times do far more damage than the rider. Imagine your knight on a powerful steed! and riding down on you comes some screeching howling Splinterwood elf on a huge bird. at first it may seem almost comical until the bird leaps 8 feet into air and catches your mid section with it's grappling hook like claws. the last thing you will know is the piercing crushing feeling of being ripped in half and then smashed to jelly as 600 lbs of claws and beak grind you into the dirt then the Splinterwood elves take the confused horse and bring it somewhere it wont get hurt. Jara birds are faster than horses and far more deadly, but they lack the diversity that horses have. A horse can be made to feel ok in just about any kind of weather or climate. Jara Birds need the temperate humid climate of the Splinterwood and don't fair well when taken far from it. and here we have the first of the Jara Bird knights
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Post by wildagreenbough on May 16, 2014 17:29:03 GMT -9
Cool bananas These Jara bird Knights are going to be just soooooooo good.
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Post by Vermin King on May 16, 2014 18:54:10 GMT -9
So you already talked about a mini race game. With the knights aboard, you know we have to ask you for a mini joust game
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Post by aaron on May 17, 2014 19:20:35 GMT -9
OK so the Splinterwoods was getting a bit too large to be stuck in my head. so I took some time today and made a map. Not a lot of time and my map making skills kind of stink but it will help you get the idea of what I'm thinking about. Some of the things that I kept seeing in my head the capital city of Qell Ootharin by the coast with it's amphitheater almost floating on the Hartstone, A stone that focuses the power of Splinterwood life force and radiates it out to all the elves. though they can't say why All Splinterwood elves feel better the closer they get to the stone. The Kessel Downs is where most of the commerce of Splinterwood takes place. it's where the famous Jara Jara bird Races take place and it's also home to the National Splinterwood Gathen pond... you don't know what a Gathen pond is yet but it's the second installment of mini games in Splinterwood! Another very important aspect of this map is the introduction to the Parduzian foothills in the North east corner. The Parduzian foothills lead up into the Parduz mountains where lives the Parduzian Dwarves. That's right Parduz I did you one better! they gave you a dwarf I give you a whole race of Dwarves!! oh ya! Now you have a whole mountain range! they live in the northern mountains and border the kingdome of Splinterwood on the south and the Nation of Carduval on the east. Carduval is the home of the High elves who have turned from magic and embrace science and technology. Unlike many Dwarven races who are leery of others the Parduzian Dwarves are amiable and trade often withe the Splinterwood elves the most notable thing they trade is Ale ! There is a friendly competition between the Elves of the Splinterwood and the Parduzian Dwarves to see who can brew the best ales. once a year the dwarves swarm out of the mountains and meet on the Kessel Downs for a week long Ale festival where there are games and mirth to be had by all. It is not completely unheard of to see Eldufice brandish a huge mug of Dwarven spirits and then disappear back into the forest singing old songs in a strange tongue. The festival of the spirits or sestuwan in the elven tongue is so popular it's the only time Queen Ellasaph and King Tanelarell can let their hair down and just have fun. it also marks the last week of Gathen and the national game is played between the two remaining teams on the last night of sestuwan. there is much more to see from the Splinterwood and I will be messing with it for a little while longer yet ... enjoy the map and I hope some one can use it.
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Post by wildagreenbough on May 17, 2014 22:46:31 GMT -9
Ooooooooooooooooo a map, now it's really official. All hail the newest of the Fantasy races, - the Splinterwood Elves! Oh and of course we can't forget the Parduzian Dwarves, - all hail to them too
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Post by aaron on May 18, 2014 14:58:49 GMT -9
So I haven't spent a lot of time in the splinterwoods today but I did finish up the jarabird knight captain. She is probably the busiest model I have ever done and I must say she's not exactly my favorite but She turned out ok. the kicker is , as I was looking at poses for the Jara bird online I ran across this guy who is just an amazing artist and he's already done a bunch of wood elves! some people around here know him as OakumArts! check out his elves at rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/94927/Darkfast-Classic-Fantasy-Set-Two-Wood-Elves?manufacturers_id=3639 He has more talent in his little finger than I will posses in a lifetime of trying LOL well worth the purchase! anyway I'm not done yet with the Jara knights but here's the first installment!
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Post by wildagreenbough on May 18, 2014 16:31:50 GMT -9
Ok, pep talk time. Now I happen to own a copy of OakumArts's Wood Elves and yes they are very nice and yes the guy is talented, BUT don't you dare go selling yourself short Aaron. Your Splinterwood Elves are inspired, dynamic and original and I'm certainly not following this thread and cheering you on just to pass the time. So there you go, deep breath, shoulders back and get yourself back to your sketch pad because you're a brilliant artist and storyteller.
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Post by dungeonmistress on May 18, 2014 16:54:31 GMT -9
Ok, pep talk time. Now I happen to own a copy of OakumArts's Wood Elves and yes they are very nice and yes the guy is talented, BUT don't you dare go selling yourself short Aaron. Your Splinterwood Elves are inspired, dynamic and original and I'm certainly not following this thread and cheering you on just to pass the time. So there you go, deep breath, shoulders back and get yourself back to your sketch pad because you're a brilliant artist and storyteller. Listen to your big sister, aaron, she's right!
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Post by aaron on May 18, 2014 18:25:35 GMT -9
LOL ok well wasn't saying that I was NO good I was just saying that I'm not as good as David however, I consider myself peped! and since I still owe Brian some more Splinterwood elves you shall all be rewarded for my big mouth. but as a reward for that lovely speech here is a wip of a parduzan dwarf Lumberjack! they are common in the Splinterwood. they spend their time clearing away dead trees and helping keep the forest tidy all the while sending the wood up to the Paduzan mountains.
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Post by dungeonmistress on May 18, 2014 20:10:21 GMT -9
OH, Oh, OH! It hurts! Stop making me laugh so much! Parduzan Lumberjack Dwarf! That's just too much! I love it! Oh, the pain!
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Post by Parduz on May 18, 2014 22:40:45 GMT -9
....don't know why, but that mountains name sounds familiar Really, i'm starting to be speechless. I'm not parduzzing or criticizing at all, now, just posing a question: have you tried to shade your figures with solid colors (just like in manga/anime), instead of using smooth shades? Given your "comic" style, that technique could work... i'm wondering how could it come out
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Post by aaron on May 19, 2014 2:28:52 GMT -9
well Parduz How does if feel to be the king of your own race of Dwarves! I have never really liked Illustrator it's just been awkward to sculpt rather than draw. I can give it a shot though I have the Adobe suit Cs5 and there's a lot of programs that really need a good dust off and work through!
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Post by Parduz on May 19, 2014 3:11:59 GMT -9
well Parduz How does if feel to be the king of your own race of Dwarves! As i said, i'm almost speechless. I feel it like a honor, but i'm not sure why should i deserve it . I have never really liked Illustrator it's just been awkward to sculpt rather than draw. I can give it a shot though I have the Adobe suit Cs5 and there's a lot of programs that really need a good dust off and work through! Not sure i understand what this means... is it a reply to my question? If yes, then i don't get it, sorry ... if not, then sorry
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Post by migibb on May 19, 2014 3:40:18 GMT -9
aaron - I know you have your heart set on getting Temporum Oblitus up, running and making you your first million, but you should seriously consider putting your fantasy figs up on DTRPG too. They are fantastic and I'm sure there is always a market for tlented art like yours. Plus I suspect there is more of a market for fantasy paper figs over sci-fi ones (though that is just a hunch). If nothing else, stick a copyright notice on them and pop them up on a Pay What You Want basis. May make you some extra cash to invest in getting TO off the ground.
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Post by aaron on May 19, 2014 4:31:23 GMT -9
"As i said, i'm almost speechless. I feel it like a honor, but i'm not sure why should i deserve it . " (still trying to figure out the quotes) sure you do! you were in the right place at the right time and that's the best reason to deserve anything LOL I have never really liked Illustrator it's just been awkward to sculpt rather than draw. I can give it a shot though I have the Adobe suit Cs5 and there's a lot of programs that really need a good dust off and work through! Not sure i understand what this means... is it a reply to my question? If yes, then i don't get it, sorry ... if not, then sorry [/quote] It's like an old book on a shelf, the one you never read. it gets covered in dust. then one day you decide to pull it off the shelf and read it. so you have to blow the dust off and read the book ... it's like that give it a dust off means to pull it out and dust it off... and a work through means to try and figure it out again.... hope that helps migibb I have no idea what DTRPG is? but I really like the idea of Splinterwood being an open source fantasy where anyone can mess with it. I really love the idea that my models are going into the forum hoard to help facilitate the idea that anyone can play in the splinterwood. how about this if people on the DTRPG site really like my fantasy stuff then I will consider doing a range of models after all there is still the Kell Fallien Elves and the Parduvan dwarves as well as the Carduval (steam punk)high elves as well as the races of men and the lizard people ... amazons there's wole big wild world out there and no telling how big it could get!
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Post by mahotsukai on May 19, 2014 5:38:19 GMT -9
aaron DTRPG would be Drive Thru RPG. Where you found Okumarts Wood Elves.
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Post by dungeonmistress on May 19, 2014 7:09:01 GMT -9
1) Parduz: You deserve it because you are just awesome like that! 2) aaron: I think Parduz was referring to you style of shading rather than what program you use. 3) migibb is RIGHT, you should do something protect you IP. Also, I really like the idea of an ever-expanding Splinterwood universe! 4) I am sold and addicted! I will end up owning all the Splinterwood figures and anything else you put out to go with the set. PS: More food for thought: Put together a PDF booklet of the Story of Splinterwood for who ever gets this set. (It always nice to have a background story to go with your characters. Makes the game feel more real). I will edit it for you. Deal?
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