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Post by roggu on May 24, 2014 11:04:33 GMT -9
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Post by wildagreenbough on May 24, 2014 17:53:10 GMT -9
I really don't like anything representative of modern warfare  |
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Post by cowboyleland on May 24, 2014 19:20:49 GMT -9
Dave tends to work on buildings with interesting shapes. These all kind of look like simple blocks, although there were one or two links where the images didn't download when I followed them.
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Post by roggu on May 25, 2014 4:15:29 GMT -9
I check the links and they works well for me, so I dont know whats wrong. They are simple boxes, yes, but I'd really like to see them with Dave textures, especially in layered pdfs
cheers
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Post by squirmydad on May 25, 2014 6:33:18 GMT -9
The set you are looking for already exists; Desert Village Not Dave's textures, but still very good. He also has a Desert Fortress set. -Eric |
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Post by wyvern on May 25, 2014 13:33:20 GMT -9
I really don't like anything representative of modern warfare Understandable, but the general style of Near Eastern building hasn't changed a vast amount in 5000+ years, so as long as you avoid worrying too much about the recent battle-damaged photos in Roggu's original set of links, the actual paper models would work well for any similar areas in real-world, fantasy or SF settings. If Dave was thinking of going down this route, with some mud-brick houses in ancient Mesopotamian-Fertile Crescent styles, I'd welcome that certainly, especially some showing the plano-convex bricks so characteristic of the Early Dynastic period in southern Mesopotamia ( circa 2500-2900 BC) - there's a free PDF downloadable book on the subject from 1933 which will show you what these are, available from this University of Chicago link: oi.uchicago.edu/pdf/saoc7.pdf (it's about 3 MB in size), or this site has a couple of single plano-convex brick photos. Squirmydad: Thanks for the heads-up on this and the Desert Fortress; managed to miss these somehow. Do you know if there are any better resolution images of either? The OBS photo is too small to see much detail, both the "Publisher Preview" links are broken on the OBS site, and there doesn't seem to be a Papermodels.at website. |
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Post by wildagreenbough on May 25, 2014 13:52:36 GMT -9
I really don't like anything representative of modern warfare Understandable, but the general style of Near Eastern building hasn't changed a vast amount in 5000+ years, so as long as you avoid worrying too much about the recent battle-damaged photos in Roggu's original set of links, the actual paper models would work well for any similar areas in real-world, fantasy or SF settings. If Dave was thinking of going down this route, with some mud-brick houses in ancient Mesopotamian-Fertile Crescent styles, I'd welcome that certainly, especially some showing the plano-convex bricks so characteristic of the Early Dynastic period in southern Mesopotamia ( circa 2500-2900 BC) - there's a free PDF downloadable book on the subject from 1933 which will show you what these are, available from this University of Chicago link: oi.uchicago.edu/pdf/saoc7.pdf (it's about 3 MB in size), or this site has a couple of single plano-convex brick photos. Squirmydad: Thanks for the heads-up on this and the Desert Fortress; managed to miss these somehow. Do you know if there are any better resolution images of either? The OBS photo is too small to see much detail, both the "Publisher Preview" links are broken on the OBS site, and there doesn't seem to be a Papermodels.at website. I really do agree about the type of building not changing much over the centuries, it was just the pictures of battle damaged houses as a consequence of modern warfare that upset me. Thank you for the link to the PDF book download, - some years ago I owned a book on the excavations at Ur which was also very interesting. |
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Post by mahotsukai on May 25, 2014 17:35:25 GMT -9
There are a couple of free promotional items for the Desert Village and Desert Fortress from Christopher Nahler here. link
There is also a picture of his Asian castle on Papermau. linkThis is in the same style as his Asian Temple available through Squirmydad's link. |
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Post by squirmydad on May 25, 2014 19:08:53 GMT -9
wyvern - Chris Nahler (great guy) quit on Papercraft years ago when he went full-time as an architect. I'm glad he left his products up though.
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Post by mahotsukai on May 26, 2014 1:30:12 GMT -9
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Post by hackbarth on May 26, 2014 5:23:32 GMT -9
Squirmydad: Thanks for the heads-up on this and the Desert Fortress; managed to miss these somehow. Do you know if there are any better resolution images of either? The OBS photo is too small to see much detail, both the "Publisher Preview" links are broken on the OBS site, and there doesn't seem to be a Papermodels.at website. The miniatures page has a couple: Desert Village on The Miniatures Page |
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Post by wyvern on May 26, 2014 9:20:06 GMT -9
...some years ago I owned a book on the excavations at Ur which was also very interesting. I wonder if it might have been Leonard Woolley's excavation report on the Royal Cemetery from 1934? That astonished me when I first saw it many years ago, as it's such a remarkable, nigh-exemplary, work for its period. It's in two volumes, one of text and some line drawings, the other of plates - illustrations, photos, drawings and paintings. Better still, I discovered thanks to checking after seeing your notes Wildgreenbough, that it's freely available online now. The following links are portal pages to allow access to the work in various formats for the text and plate volumes, including PDFs, though the PDF files are around 39 and 32 MB respectively (click on the appropriate link on the left side of the page, or just view the volume in the centre panel. And very many thanks Mahotsukai and Hackbarth for those Papermodel links. The free sampler pages were a particular help for close-ups of the wall textures, but the TMP pages are at a better resolution than the OBS pages too. |
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Post by wildagreenbough on May 26, 2014 10:04:47 GMT -9
Thank you so much for the links to Leonard Woolley's excavation report on the Royal Cemetery. The book I used to own wasn't that particular one, but was from the excavations within the city itself. Of the many books that have p@ssed through my hands over the years the loss of that volume was one that I very much regret.
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Post by eran on May 27, 2014 5:28:56 GMT -9
www.papertigerarmaments.com/ has several Near East/Middle Eastern buildings available for free download, as well as WWII-era vehicles for sale.
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Post by wyvern on May 27, 2014 6:02:40 GMT -9
Wildagreenbough, if you can recall the book's title, it may be worth checking online, in case a free electronic edition is now available. Woolley alone wrote a number of books apart from the excavation reports on Ur, for example, so it may be one of those you're recalling. The ordinary city-street and building excavations were primarily successful for the early second millennium BC onwards. A quick check online came up with a couple of sites that may be of interest in this regard, with some good Ur city plans (and aerial/satellite photos on the first one): * A paper from the International Journal of Geophysics in 2012, with the slightly terrifying title of " Multitemporal High-Resolution Satellite Images for the Study and Monitoring of an Ancient Mesopotamian City and its Surrounding Landscape: The Case of Ur", by Giacomo Di Giacomo and Giuseppe Scardozzi. Definitely worth a look if only for the images and maps, though it isn't really about the archaeology on the ground so much. * RPG.net has the highest res version of the street plan Woolley excavated at Ur I've managed to locate easily, part of Legolas' Fantasy and Medieval Maps there. There's also a plan of the whole city and a section through the elevation of the walls, via the main www.rpg.net/sites/legolas/castle/cities.html page. There are higher res maps of Ur elsewhere online too. Good hunting!
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Post by wildagreenbough on May 27, 2014 9:56:52 GMT -9
The book was 'Ur of the Chaldees' which doesn't seem to be available as an on-line edition Thank you for the other links too. The street maps and satellite images are excellent and really interesting. |
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Post by Vermin King on May 27, 2014 10:38:23 GMT -9
www.papertigerarmaments.com/ has several Near East/Middle Eastern buildings available for free download, as well as WWII-era vehicles for sale. Nebeltex (I forgot what his real name is) designs in 1/72. BTW, he has another model available for free if you click on the Army Heritage Days Icon on the PTA website There are also Tatooine village models at Ghost of Man, www.ghostofman.com/, all the way to the bottom of the page |
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Post by wyvern on May 28, 2014 9:14:29 GMT -9
The book was 'Ur of the Chaldees' which doesn't seem to be available as an on-line edition That's a shame. Maybe your nearest public library could order you a lending copy? |
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Spent two 'fun' hours last night unclogging a heat break tube (the nozzle was a lost cause and replaced). Stupid bowden tube slipped and molten plastic spilled up into the heat break tube and congealed.