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Post by mesper on Jun 11, 2014 16:36:48 GMT -9
ROMA AETERNA Set 5 - Roman Chariots PERMES Historical SeriesAvailable at: RPGnow - Roma Aeterna 5 ChariotsThis set contains 7 pages with 14 detailed front and back artwork Roman Chariot figurines including: Julius Caesar, Emperor Augustus, charging equites (2 versions), archers (2 versions), 2 x Roman Patricians in carriage and Circus Maximus chariot racers (green, blue and red faction) +wide bases: grass, sand and rock. All minis, parts, accessories and elements of scenery are 300dpi 30mm front and back full color artwork suitable both for RPG and wargaming. Some previews:Hope you will enjoy this set! Mesper
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jun 11, 2014 17:19:46 GMT -9
Yay! Chariots, - I love chariots Now the next thing to is to adapt the artwork to suit Elves.
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Post by dungeonmistress on Jun 11, 2014 19:40:24 GMT -9
Beautiful!
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Post by mesper on Jun 11, 2014 20:07:35 GMT -9
Thanks! Yay! Chariots, - I love chariots Now the next thing to is to adapt the artwork to suit Elves. =>>>nice idea - THANK YOU!
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Post by mesper on Jun 12, 2014 17:52:32 GMT -9
Couple more Roman Chariots previews: - 2-nd version of archer (firing backwards)
- two versions of patrician cart/carriage - one with mules instead of horses
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Post by mesper on Jun 12, 2014 17:58:00 GMT -9
Now the next thing to is to adapt the artwork to suit Elves. OK, here is a quick test mock-up (all components are taken from previously released Elven sets): IMO cart might be replaced, so would look and feel more "elvish" - with more rounded lines and soft shape one (sort of... swan-like?) Then of course unicorns could be (as an option perhaps?) replaced: gryphons or even (winged) pegasi?
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Post by WackyAnne on Jun 12, 2014 18:25:28 GMT -9
First to the Romans: Terrific set, dynamic, flavourful, and appears useful for both urban adventures (RPGs) and military campaigns (wargames). Yay Mesper! If anyone is interested in compelling historically-based yet fictional chariot racing for inspiration, you should check Guy Gavriel Kay's Sarantine Mosaic: Sailing to Sarantium & Lord of Emperors. Fantasy/alt history writing that's worth it on its own, but also features chariot racing and faction functioning as a major plot point.
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Post by WackyAnne on Jun 12, 2014 18:32:48 GMT -9
Next to the Elven set:
Very nice! Would it be possible to have the chariots & beasts on separate pages? That way you could have a page of options: unicorns (my preference), Pegasi, gryphons, or whatever else you might like.
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jun 12, 2014 19:47:33 GMT -9
Yay! Elf chariots! Even in test layout form they look really great. I love the idea of the chariots being able to be drawn by a variety of creatures. I built a model of a Pegasus hauled chariot back when I was heavily into wargaming with plastic and metal minis. Of course the big advantage of a Pegasus hauled chariot is that it can fly A Gryphon hauled chariot would a flyer too, but more formidable because of the Gryphon being at the sharp end. The way I see it stats wise a Pegasus chariot would be faster and a Gryphon chariot would be the more powerful attacker.
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jun 12, 2014 22:29:11 GMT -9
Yay, just spent my hobby pocket money on Roman Chariots. With Mantic Games KoW fantasy rules they have this neat 'hold-all' classification for historical armies under the heading 'Kingdoms of Men'. I always was going to print out millions of Persians for my combined Elf armies to fight, but I guess I can add Romans to the list too.
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Post by mesper on Jun 12, 2014 22:48:33 GMT -9
Yay, just spent my hobby pocket money on Roman Chariots. With Mantic Games KoW fantasy rules they have this neat 'hold-all' classification for historical armies under the heading 'Kingdoms of Men'. I always was going to print out millions of Persians for my combined Elf armies to fight, but I guess I can add Romans to the list too. Thanks! Regarding Persians - there will be Persian cavalry and chariots (although very different compared to Roman), I'll try to post some draft later
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jun 12, 2014 22:59:19 GMT -9
Yay, just spent my hobby pocket money on Roman Chariots. With Mantic Games KoW fantasy rules they have this neat 'hold-all' classification for historical armies under the heading 'Kingdoms of Men'. I always was going to print out millions of Persians for my combined Elf armies to fight, but I guess I can add Romans to the list too. Thanks! Regarding Persians - there will be Persian cavalry and chariots (although very different compared to Roman), I'll try to post some draft later Teeerrific I've already got your Ancient Warriors Persians set so I'm really pleased to read that you're going to do Cavalry and Chariots too. I used to play Persians using 20mm plastic figures, but I sold off all my 20mm figures some time ago.
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Post by mesper on Jun 12, 2014 23:31:28 GMT -9
Persian war-chariot scale-test mock up in attachment I'd like to add more versions: - with 4 wheels (Ancient 4WD Off Road;))) and axes pair of OX instead of horses =>mobile platform for archers - then another one more lightweight with scythes fastened to each wheel's axle - so it will be 2.5D this way. such kind of minis usually needs a lot more colouring though (actually that's the all mounted and cart/charriot type minis drawback - twice or even 3x more time consuming) and hmm... that's probably why I postponed this set, lazy me Attachments:
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jun 12, 2014 23:50:00 GMT -9
Persian war-chariot scale-test mock up in attachment I'd like to add more versions: - with 4 wheels (Ancient 4WD Off Road;))) and axes pair of OX instead of horses =>mobile platform for archers - then another one more lightweight with scythes fastened to each wheel's axle - so it will be 2.5D this way. such kind of minis usually needs a lot more colouring though (actually that's the all mounted and cart/charriot type minis drawback - twice or even 3x more time consuming) and hmm... that's probably why I postponed this set, lazy me Excellent, - I really like your Persian Chariot drawing. The other versions sound very interesting too and I will be looking forward to when this set is released. I hear what you're saying about chariots being more time consuming. As much as I like chariots I always found painting plastic and metal model chariots to be a real trial.
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Post by mesper on Jun 16, 2014 6:57:55 GMT -9
Work in progress... Please note different carts: three basic models (+probably some more colour versions) One of the carts (flying one on this preview) is bigger and could be used for 2 warriors, so I'll try to arrange some crew. Regarding the flying one - I'd like to add optional wings for mount, so it will be 2.5D pegasus/pegacorn Not sure though how to "base" both mount and cart - most probably I'll add some sort of "cloud" instead of sand/grass. So this way figurine will be slightly taller (or rather higher located compared to typical mounted figurine standing on the ground)
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jul 1, 2014 13:40:53 GMT -9
I had wondered if 2.5D would be possible for the flying chariots. I've been ill so I haven't had much time to experiment with the Elven Chariots just yet.
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Post by mesper on Jul 2, 2014 1:28:48 GMT -9
I had wondered if 2.5D would be possible for the flying chariots. Yes! In fact it's almost done, as most of the "parts" (ie carts, wheels, mounts, wings, various grounds etc. and of course elves) are separate elements, so what it minimum needs is to arrange these parts on pages and assemble whole set. Then I'd like to add some more mounts (Black Duocorns, some lizards perhaps?) so ultimately it will results as sort of "Construction Kit". Moreover I did the same for dragons (separate various heads, wings, tails plus some optional accessories like armour, "fire-breath"), so everybody can build/assemble his own semi-unique dragon. But I'd like to rework "main body" - with separate torsos and legs, so it will be possible to even more change the posing Here is a picture of some progress (final version should contain at least 4 basic colour schemes and even more for wings and accessories)... Note, that some parts of dragon like heads, tails and wings could (or even should!) be bend, and that you will be able to freely (well, preferably within the same colour scheme:) mix / exchange some parts (like different shape /slope of tail or head) so it will add an extra 3D-ish effect to the final figurine. Still a long way to go, but it is looking IMHO not that bad so far. Thing is that at the moment due to some RL issues I can't devote enough time to those projects... PS. hope you will get better soon!
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Post by wildagreenbough on Jul 2, 2014 5:48:55 GMT -9
Wow! that's wonderful news. I'm going to be so looking forward to the chariot construction kit Thanks, - I am beginning to feel better. It's just something that happens from time to time with this illness I have.
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Post by mesper on Jul 5, 2014 13:26:09 GMT -9
Wow! that's wonderful news. I'm going to be so looking forward to the chariot construction kit <...> Work (sry / so slooow:) in progress...
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Post by Rhannon on Jul 5, 2014 14:05:07 GMT -9
Roman infantry, Permes, Roman infantry!!! Please!
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Post by mesper on Jul 5, 2014 15:06:31 GMT -9
Roman infantry, Permes, Roman infantry!!! Please! Work in progress! =>>Got some original ideas regarding accessories (various historical emblems: shields/banners/signs), and really unique (!!!) 2.5D accessories fasten system! Then there is a lot of (auxilia, legionnaires, regular order/turtle etc. then republic/empire/late-empire) versions! Add to it faction-colours (like Caesars vs Pompeian)... So even if I already got some basic figurines (and even those need some serious remastering/recolouring) so most probably it will end-up with more than 2 or 3 sets (Republic, Empire, Late-Empire, Praetorian, Auxilia (again: Republic / Empire)) and such series needs some more time to preserve homogeneous graphic style and being complete... But then the truth is that I'm sort of insecure/aware that it might (will!) be a lot of criticism (there is a lot of source differencies... so most probably I'll have to add some serious and broad text/graphic intro - just to explain all the why/when/where etc. issues - which is quite research time/work-consuming and at the same time probably not very "sexy" for most paper-minis users), then all the text should be written in at least acceptable/understandable English - so well, that's a lot of reasons why I'm kinda afraid/doubtful/causious with these sets...
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Post by WackyAnne on Jul 6, 2014 15:39:44 GMT -9
While my knowledge of Roman history is fairly faded, and my knowledge of military matters near to non-existent (despite my father-in-law and baby-brother-in-law being in the armed forces), I'm happy to help you with my editorial skills. Your English is quite good, and with a little help you'll be set. In fact, if you were able to recruit a more military-knowledgeable anglophone, you could convert your Polish magazine and publish it quite successfully on Wargame Vault!
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