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Post by 8rad on Sept 21, 2014 0:52:53 GMT -9
Redesigned my orcs with a thinner and meaner look, tribe of 10. Still need colour and resized base tabs, standing at 30mm with eye line at 25-28mm. Nice wind down after papercuts 8r
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Post by pavaro on Sept 21, 2014 5:43:13 GMT -9
They looks great! Can you show more graphic?
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Post by migibb on Sept 21, 2014 12:16:22 GMT -9
Looking good 8rad. Are they going to be 28mm?
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Post by 8rad on Sept 21, 2014 14:12:28 GMT -9
Looking good 8rad. Are they going to be 28mm? Yeah sort of, eye level at 25mm standing to 30mmish tall overall, size nicely in with gw minis. Still working out how to make layered pdf so I can have both black and white boarder options. 8r
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Post by labrat on Sept 21, 2014 15:30:16 GMT -9
I gotta get ahold of these. They look awesome!
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Post by 8rad on Sept 25, 2014 0:20:42 GMT -9
Got the slot base size sorted and base colours down, sorted out a few line errors and the shaman needs a bit of work. Added a space marine to show a size comparison (excuse the rough cutting, not done the cutfiles yet). Shadows and details next, also really want to add layers to swap the colour of their clothes, giving yellow, red and blue options. Then finally a black border option offset 2-5ishmm. 8r
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Post by pavaro on Sept 25, 2014 3:37:52 GMT -9
Could you tell me how do you made yours models? At what scale are you drawing?
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Post by 8rad on Sept 25, 2014 5:36:25 GMT -9
Could you tell me how do you made yours models? At what scale are you drawing? yeah sure , scale 25mm on the eyeline and about 30mm top of the head. Using manga studio 5, which allows me to use vector and raster layers together and is just lovely for sketching. Intuos pro (small) tablet the latest version and its just king, actually better to use than real pens paint etc for this sort of thing. Line work all in vector, outside line at size 10, inside lines at size 5. But using the g-pen option for the cartoony feel and varying line width. Colours all in raster (inking pen) but use watercolour brush as well. Use to sketch in pencil and scan but do it all in ms5 now. Got my workflow down which was what my 2 armies for papercuts was all about but always refining. 1. sketch idea 2. refine sketch 3. ink outline and duplicate layer 4. flip second layer upside down and line up 5. duplicate sketch and flip copy upsidedown and fit in outline. 6. resketch upside down layer to show the back within outline 7. ink the middle. 8. check for mistakes 9. add the base between top/front and bottom/back and line up 10. add colour, base skin > clothes > equipment. each on a layer 11. add detail shadow and highlight layers 12. print check for mistakes 13 sort boarders (black/white) As with everything there no one right way to do these and spend a bit of time trying to back engineer other minis and reading tutorials to improve. The really hard part is trying to get you mini to tell a story, as well as be a functional piece. 8r
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Post by pavaro on Sept 25, 2014 7:13:07 GMT -9
Thanks for answer. I ask all on this forum about these methods because I seek some techniques to my works.
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Post by 8rad on Oct 1, 2014 10:17:53 GMT -9
Mostly done , been messing around boarders. Although I prefer white, black boarders are beginning to grow on me. 8r
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Post by migibb on Oct 1, 2014 10:38:07 GMT -9
The benefit of the black borders is really only seen when they are on the table rathe rthan on the sheet I think.
These are looking cool, but did they loot a huge roll of yellow cloth in their last raid or something? ;O) Just wondering if that is going to be the sole colour of their clothing......
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Post by 8rad on Oct 1, 2014 10:48:35 GMT -9
The benefit of the black borders is really only seen when they are on the table rathe rthan on the sheet I think. These are looking cool, but did they loot a huge roll of yellow cloth in their last raid or something? ;O) Just wondering if that is going to be the sole colour of their clothing...... lol yeah, aiming to keep the colour range to a minimum and a sort of 'faction' feel like in computer games. The clothing is all on one layer so might do red, blue versions.
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Post by 8rad on Oct 5, 2014 0:13:06 GMT -9
finished of the colouring and put through a cutter, but how to over come the white edges on the black boarders ?. Also started on a foe for the orcs. 8r
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Post by jackmatt on Oct 5, 2014 0:29:50 GMT -9
Go around the edges with a black marker pen. Jackmatt.
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Post by 8rad on Oct 5, 2014 0:36:53 GMT -9
Thought about that and would work, but there must be a cleaner less labour intensive way out there.
8r
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Post by cowboyleland on Oct 5, 2014 16:01:52 GMT -9
Edging with a marker is the hobby standard. Someone here (I think Big Jim [aka the original Onemonk]) once recommended fine tipped "brush pens" which looked like they would work really well, but I never tried them myself.
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Post by oldschooldm on Oct 5, 2014 19:31:44 GMT -9
I swear by Tombow Brush pens for edging...
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Post by 8rad on Oct 5, 2014 21:05:58 GMT -9
Ahh good idea, i have a Japanese managa brush pen. Never thought about that.. like it, and being india ink will stay proper black. Will give it a bash.
8r
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Post by sunraven01 on Oct 6, 2014 3:40:15 GMT -9
Brush pens are perfect for edging minis because they can get into the small spaces. Accept no substitutes!
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Post by 8rad on Oct 9, 2014 1:39:14 GMT -9
Brush pen vs Promarker (on printer paper prototypes) Brush pen = cleaner more and accurate but slow and the need to go over some areas more than once. Promarker = clunker to use and loads of ink bleeding (paper dependant) but fast, run round to edge once and your done. Although both get the job done im more on the promarker if your doing lots, once you get used to the bleed range and speed most overbleed can be avoided. If your doing one or two then the brush pen for much more control and its hard to beat india black ink. 8r
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Post by niksantsurvivedendor on Oct 10, 2014 12:55:55 GMT -9
Another question, again sorry if you already posted this: Will you be doing your Skeletons too ? I just saw some sketches on the deviant art page of yours.
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Post by 8rad on Oct 11, 2014 4:32:02 GMT -9
Another question, again sorry if you already posted this: Will you be doing your Skeletons too ? I just saw some sketches on the deviant art page of yours. Hi Yup, elves or humans next but undead are my favs to draw. Leaving them till later as they i think are the hardest to get right and will need skills i have not learned/honed yet. When i do, do them it will be a mix of all races. i.e orc, dwarf, elves humans etc. Zombies as well, more the magic zombie (uses weapons) rather than the disease zombie (sci-fi). 8r
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