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Post by berneart76 on Aug 11, 2015 17:58:43 GMT -9
So, the initial posts on this were on the Customs House, but the Hiring hall is proceeding along, First level is complete with suggested floor plan, and all 4 perimeter walls with inner and outer textures. Next up is to work on the pattern and texturing for the optional Veranda/Balcony, and then finalize the 2nd story floor plan, 2nd story perimeter walls, and roof. then Print, build, photograph and officially enter it! ( along with build some accessories for the interior from various purchased sets from inked Adventures or Kev's Lounge for the furnishings) This is going to be a large model, already at 5 pages, so this might get to the range of squirmydad's Steam launch which is at 11 pages, if I remember correctly....
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 13, 2015 16:54:17 GMT -9
So dulling knife and getting excited and rushing things ended up in a bit of a rough build, but the White mock-up for the Veranda/Balcony for the Hiring hall looks to be good, just a few minor tweaks on some of the dimensions ( I'm amazed that when i copy an image it frequently warps/alters the dimensions slightly....) Don't be surprised if matching ramps/stairs show up for this at some point in the near future! Now on to clening up a few of the dimensions, page layouts, and adding the textures! Yes, as you can make out ( barely) even the inner arches are getting textured...
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Post by cowboycentaur on Aug 14, 2015 13:02:06 GMT -9
Looking good bro!
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 16, 2015 6:54:07 GMT -9
Looks like I'll be able to get this completed, I have the ground floor plan, all four ground floor walls ( exterior and interior), the veranda/Balcony optional extension, the inner balconies and the second story floor plan all laid out and textured, now on to the second story walls, roof, fireplaces, and then looking for accessories to furnish the interior with!. If I have time, I might also make the individual interior rooms... Also managed to do some work on shading/Shadows and some lighting effects for atmosphere... The left hand is on an exterior wall, right hand is on an interior wall...
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 18, 2015 16:08:03 GMT -9
Working on getting the parts I have done into a consistent format and ready for PDF conversion, working on the Balconies at the moment. I have most of the building done already, so it is looking like I'll be able to do the work for the internal rooms as well before the official submission deadline!
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 18, 2015 16:21:20 GMT -9
If you find that time runs short, I'm sure an exterior-only building would be fine for the contest, and then you can offer a Deluxe version on RPGNow later on
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 18, 2015 17:02:00 GMT -9
Thanks for the advice Vermin King, but I'm at the point now i'm just double checking and cleaning up some of the fold/score lines and adding some descriptive text onto the pages! There will be a deluxe version available through OBS later as well, offering additional choices for wall and floor texturing, plus maybe a PWYW exterior only version...
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 19, 2015 17:32:43 GMT -9
I think I'm almost ready to submit the Hiring Hall, I have pretty much all the major components completed, other than the 3" tall staircase with a landing and 90 degree turn to get from the ground floor to the second story. Totaling 25 pages so far, this includes ground tiles, interior floor designs, Double sided walls for the first and second stories, the interior balconies with staircases, the roof, and the front veranda/balcony... Going to work on the final staircase and fireplaces/chimneys and then use the weekend to do a final review of the pages, print and build, and take pictures ( including in-process pictures for a brief instruction book to highlight how to put together some of the more involved parts, like the interior balconies).
Looking to be around 27-28 pages of parts, and then maybe another 3-4 for the instructions....
I'm thinking people will like this as an addition to their collections!
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Post by oldschooldm on Aug 19, 2015 19:34:36 GMT -9
I have a 3" staircase design you can use/mod! :-)
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using proboards
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 19, 2015 19:38:03 GMT -9
I have a 3" staircase design you can use/mod! :-) Thanks for the offer oldschooldm! I've pretty much come to the conclusion that a one-piece/pop-up/fold flat with a 90 degreee turn isn't going to work, o it will have to be a 2 piece design... or I might look at modifying the 2nd story floorplan and modifying the 4.5" one you posted that makes a 180 degree turn...
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Post by oldschooldm on Aug 20, 2015 8:11:37 GMT -9
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 20, 2015 12:29:19 GMT -9
Thanks oldschooldm for the 3" switchback version of the stairs! That wilol help quite a bit. i'll still need to mod it a bit for the Higher rail design i want to use, and see about an open frame mod as well!
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Post by oldschooldm on Aug 20, 2015 13:51:28 GMT -9
Hmm. I just placed my new 3" switchback against my 3" popup and noticed that it has one more tread (at the 3" mark), and so the railing is 3.25" high, not 3.0", like the popup one.
Should I fix that for everyone? I'm tempted to fix it.
OldSchoolDM
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 20, 2015 14:42:21 GMT -9
Hmm. I just placed my new 3" switchback against my 3" popup and noticed that it has one more tread (at the 3" mark), and so the railing is 3.25" high, not 3.0", like the popup one. Should I fix that for everyone? I'm tempted to fix it. OldSchoolDM No rush oldschooldm, I think most peope here realize that you will end up fixing it at some point in the near future anyways!
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Post by oldschooldm on Aug 20, 2015 21:26:18 GMT -9
UPDATE: I replaced the original posted version with one with a smaller, 1" square landing. It looks better and takes up less space. Ha! I got it. 3" 90degree FOLD-FLAT second flight of stairs! You build this, along with the 1.5" stand-alone model (from my entry) and either glue or pin them together! Viola! If you want a clockwise bend, just flip the image horizontally. Deets: 3in 90deg corner stair upper.pdf (44.84 KB) 3in 90deg corner stair upper.studio3 (100.42 KB)
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 21, 2015 11:48:29 GMT -9
very nice oldschooldm! I think I'm going to have to use it, just to showcase a textured version!
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 23, 2015 6:13:10 GMT -9
And we've got a sign! If anyone understands just how Public Houses/Inn's got their names, there is a bit of a background to the design. The Public house/Hiring hall was built on the sight of an older Inn run by a widow. Women who ran or manage inns were referred to as Ale Wives.. and the alewife is a fish in the same family as the herring.. After numerous fires at the original structure, it came to be known as the "Burning Alewife"... When the new public house was built, it kept the sign that had survived the last fire before the new building was constructed, and due to its use as a hiring hall for men or even voyages, people using the new structure corrupted over time the name "Hiring Hall" and it is now known as "Herring Hell". 8 days until submission deadline, 30 pages done in Photoshop,, now to put together the PDF, print and assemble everything, and photograph during assembly for the instruction guide! Looks like I'm going to make it!
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 23, 2015 8:15:10 GMT -9
Getting done. I know that feeling. With my setback yesterday, I wasn't sure I could get caught back up and finish. Getting back to the point where finishing becomes a probability instead of a possibility is a great feeling. It's also a great feeling to realize you have stretched yourself to the point where you are hovering on that line.
From what I've seen so far, I'm sure you will finish and finish well
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 23, 2015 18:38:00 GMT -9
Thanks Vermin King for the encouragement! 31 Photoshop files completed 9 added one for some cross-bracing for the second story). 160 Layers exported for creating PDF's in Indesign... ( most pages have 3 layers, the walls have a few extras to allow for new walls, or soiled/cracked walls, and lit or unlit lanterns). 3 PDF pages completed. progress is looking good, I'll continue tomorrow and see how many of the PDF pages I can get created. This has definitely been an opportunity to stretch myself and work with different textures such as surface effects, shading and lighting. It is going to be a sense of relief and accomplishment getting this released, and providing people with a Inn/Public House environment large enough to actually have decent bar brawls in!
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Post by cowboycentaur on Aug 23, 2015 21:14:34 GMT -9
I can't wait to see this it's gonna be so cool!
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 24, 2015 17:04:54 GMT -9
PDF Pages 1 through 20 compiled and edited. When Editing them I adjust some of the layer names, and go into the "Properties/Initial View" tab and make it so that they show the Page and Layers panel, and Also so that it shows the whole page. I then ( following some good advice I've gotten on this board) go into the "Documents" menu and use the "Reduce File Size" option...
I should be able to get the remaining 11 pages compiled tonight, and then tomorrow start with printing, cutting, assembling and photographing for the instructions!
I also need to remember to try to get some white 110 lb cardstock, rather than the grayish tinted pack I got the last time, so the finished model is "brighter".
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 24, 2015 19:54:44 GMT -9
PDF fully compiled except for the cover page ( waiting for a complete finished build for the photographs). All layers check out, 31 pages at 32 Meg.... Should be everything needed except for your personal choices in internal furnishings!
Commencing first full test print now...
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 25, 2015 11:04:29 GMT -9
Correct, White, 100lb Index card stock procured, 33 pages printed ( the roof sections need to each be printed twice to cover North, East, South and West roof sections).. One last teaser picture as the build commences. Lots of Cutting, scoring, folding, edging, gluing and photography to take place over the next few days! If time allows, will add some furnishings ( from other designers) and possibly some patrons to enhance the submission pictures... Here are the pages!
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 26, 2015 15:01:59 GMT -9
Deadline approaching, build and photography going smoothly, Ground Floor ( including Balconies and staircases complete, but not the veranda/balcony yet) cut out, edged, folded, glued and assembled! I'm going to get this done yet!
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 27, 2015 21:31:16 GMT -9
Need to make a small adjustment to the chimney for the main central fireplace, and add a pages for plain floor pieces without room suggestions, and then recompile the PDF, but otherwise everything is going together well. The nice thing is that there are multiple ways to assemble this model, as a tall or short single story building without the veranda, a tall single story with the veranda, or the as conceived two story with veranda...
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Post by berneart76 on Aug 28, 2015 15:49:01 GMT -9
Large roof chimney fixed ( mostly) It sits better on the roof now at least. Will be taking time to catch up on housecleaning tonight, then looking to finish the build and work on instructions tomorrow, and then hopefully have my submission official by late Sunday or Monday..... ( really hoping for Sunday!). I might post the submission and then add the instructions later depending on how things go.
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Post by oldschooldm on Aug 29, 2015 21:56:42 GMT -9
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Post by berneart76 on Dec 8, 2015 22:30:18 GMT -9
Since the Hiring hall preview seems to be rather popular, put a hold on the breakwaters/sandbars and working on the additional external textures for the Hiring Hall. Bit odd trying to find the correct files after 5+ months, but think I have the development files figured out. Here's the first test of the Grey Rough Ashlar (course split, not cut/carved) stone, using a texture I developed from pictures I took of an actual stone retaining wall. There will be a brown version of this as well.
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Post by berneart76 on Dec 9, 2015 23:07:02 GMT -9
So after printing, the "Grey" Ashlar was coming out a bit too brown for my tastes,I had to go back and adjust to get a little more blue into the grey. Here is a print test comparing on the top, the grey ashlar, and on the bottom, the original Brown cut block: Definitely going to have to find my ivy/vine textures.... hmmmmm
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Post by berneart76 on Dec 10, 2015 2:12:55 GMT -9
Have gotten a good start on the brown split ashlar as well. Thinking of doing a wood corner/top frame for this, as it will be needed for the Fieldstone versions. And the Print test of the three:
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