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Post by Vermin King on Dec 20, 2016 5:48:59 GMT -9
I got the order wrong on the pony and wolfhound. When I did Bill the bog pony, I had the straightened image file, the colored-in coloring page type file and the cartoon filter file. I thought the order was to start with the coloring page, overlay the photo image and reduce opacity to about 70%, play with it a bit, then overlay the cartoon at about 65% opacity. The large images look about right, but when reduced, they look almost like the original photos. I'll have to play with this some more, but hey, I have until the end of the month...
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Dec 20, 2016 14:18:12 GMT -9
I like the cart. I am guessing some will make their way into my Irish scenery
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 20, 2016 14:34:24 GMT -9
I just 'eyeballed' the strap length, but it is exactly right. Fold the strap in half, then each half folded to the middle. Bend to allow the 'trees' clearance and slide the trees in. Set on the pony and it all works. need to put the fold lines on the strap, and I think that can be called good. Kerry, Sam and the Giant Elk are acceptable. Otherwise I think I can call this done.
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Post by cowboyleland on Dec 20, 2016 18:50:31 GMT -9
I am looking forward to the Elk. I don't know why, I just am.
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 28, 2016 9:34:50 GMT -9
I'm actually thinking the elk needs to be larger. Seems like a lot of folk are doing figures larger than 28mm now, and I based it off an 8 foot rack at 28mm. The rack should be eight to nine feet across, and for 30mm figures, this wouldn't be even eight feet. I'll fix it.
Still sick, so not feeling like doing much of anything, but I had been working on the Tudor Coach before the holiday weekend, and have things worked out in my head, just need to get things to work out on paper. And with the twisted mind that I seem to be plagued with recently, I thought I would do two of them, the Tudor Coach and the Fodor Coach. We'll see
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Post by Vermin King on Dec 30, 2016 16:48:11 GMT -9
Okay, now it is Cutter-friendly
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Post by cowboyleland on Dec 31, 2016 9:29:50 GMT -9
So, 11.5hrs ahead of deadline might be early for a Procrastinator's Hoard, but since it is a fig that was meant to be for the Xmas wars in November I think it is OK. My plan is someday to do a skirmish game based on the Nutcracker Suite so I need some monstrous mice so I modded gilius's Ratkin. Enjoy and Happy New Year!
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Dec 31, 2016 10:09:48 GMT -9
I think my "submission" for the procrastinator's hoard will be to get the prior's month's hoard started. :-P I'm making good progress on a modular building set, and I'm trying not to lose momentum.
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Post by wyvern on Jan 1, 2017 10:29:46 GMT -9
Vermin King: Really hating to say this, but... If you submit a figure, they must include both front and rear art... Which doesn't really fit the Elk and Hound minis you were working on. Seems risky to set a precedent that SOME minis don't need to have both front and back art for the Hoards, however well-intentioned.
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Post by jeffgeorge on Jan 1, 2017 11:27:08 GMT -9
Vermin King : Really hating to say this, but... If you submit a figure, they must include both front and rear art... Which doesn't really fit the Elk and Hound minis you were working on. Seems risky to set a precedent that SOME minis don't need to have both front and back art for the Hoards, however well-intentioned. The question is, is this rule supposed to set a minimum standard for "professionalism" in the included minis, or is it intended to assure that each mini's facing can be easily indicated from the position of the mini on the table top? If the former is the case, then neither the elk nor the hound meets the requirement, but if the latter is the true intent of the rule, I'd argue that the facing of the hound--or any four-legged creature shown in profile-- can be divined from the direction the head of the mini is pointing, so the hound should be passed. I have many homemade minis which represent multi-legged beasts in profile with mirrored images, and they work just fine. (Most of them can't be shared because the artwork is, shall we say, "found"...) I don't have a personal stake in way the ruling comes down, although my general sense is that with free stuff given to the community by volunteers, we should probably err on the side of tolerance, and accept the second interpretation of the intent of the rule. In any case, the figures have already been shared, and are available to community members who can use them even if they are not included in the hoard, so that's to the good.
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Post by gilius on Jan 1, 2017 12:20:01 GMT -9
Vermin King : Really hating to say this, but... Which doesn't really fit the Elk and Hound minis you were working on. Seems risky to set a precedent that SOME minis don't need to have both front and back art for the Hoards, however well-intentioned. The question is, is this rule supposed to set a minimum standard for "professionalism" in the included minis, or is it intended to assure that each mini's facing can be easily indicated from the position of the mini on the table top? If the former is the case, then neither the elk nor the hound meets the requirement, but if the latter is the true intent of the rule, I'd argue that the facing of the hound--or any four-legged creature shown in profile-- can be divined from the direction the head of the mini is pointing, so the hound should be passed. I have many homemade minis which represent multi-legged beasts in profile with mirrored images, and they work just fine. (Most of them can't be shared because the artwork is, shall we say, "found"...) I don't have a personal stake in way the ruling comes down, although my general sense is that with free stuff given to the community by volunteers, we should probably err on the side of tolerance, and accept the second interpretation of the intent of the rule. In any case, the figures have already been shared, and are available to community members who can use them even if they are not included in the hoard, so that's to the good. I'd add that, as far as setting precedents, my Catoblepas submitted to a previous hoard had a mirror image
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Post by wyvern on Jan 1, 2017 12:55:37 GMT -9
I think the original intention of the "both front and rear art" in the Hoards was to discourage people from submitting items which can be easily created electronically from any image (with mirror or silhouette backs), and also to help showcase for free just what a good impression paper minis can make. Profile views are fine - horses and riders often work better this way, for instance - but not ones where you can see the full face of a creature on both sides of the mini (assuming it's not meant to have two identical faces like this, that is). gilius' Catoblepas was a profile view, for example (from the Beasts Hoard, 118, June 2014).
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Jan 1, 2017 20:20:13 GMT -9
And this where we get into rules and regulations and blah blah blah and it's not so much fun hanging around so much
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 2, 2017 10:15:22 GMT -9
I'm not sure that front/back on creatures is such a big deal, or on profile characters, but on most characters, I think the rule should hold. Hey, cowboyleland, feel like doing backs for the elk and wolfhound for me? EDIT -- I'd planned on getting back last night to spend the day today working on the Tudor Coach and Fodor Coach. I'm hoping to finish them today anyway, if we are keeping this open. Otherwise I think they would fit the January theme
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Post by chiefasaur on Jan 2, 2017 11:50:53 GMT -9
It's a chaos-elk, with a face on both sides. One face tells only truth, the other... only lies!
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Post by Papercraft Warrior on Jan 2, 2017 12:07:34 GMT -9
It's a chaos-elk, with a face on both sides. One face tells only truth, the other... only lies! Than the rat made a double entry, one with the elk without back side, and one with the chaos elk. I do not care they are the same file, double entries are against the rules! Burn him! (I am just kidding, of course. The elk looks nice.)
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 2, 2017 14:44:05 GMT -9
I wish I'd gotten home earlier. On the Tudor Coach, I was basing it on these two images A couple things to note - The compartment is suspended by what looks like thick leather straps, and the frame narrows from the front of the compartment to the front of the frame. I've had several ideas for doing the frame, but I'm not satisfied that I've settled on the best choice. I stupidly adjusted my original wheel sizes, so the axles are now off, but that's okay, I accidentally deleted them and have to start over, hopefully I'll do them right this time. I also was not happy with the driver seat and intentionally deleted it. As the Fodor Coach will be the more difficult, I started with it. Here's where I am at. EDIT-- Got all the elements, but will have to work out the front frame geometry and scan back in, and then add tabs. The footboard is sandwiched between the top and bottom of the driver seat pedestal. I think it is getting close. Once it is done, the two-door tudor, will have to have the front and back of the compartment worked out, but that shouldn't be too bad EDIT-- This coach should not be part of the Hoard
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 3, 2017 17:35:31 GMT -9
Hey, cowboyleland, feel like doing backs for the elk and wolfhound for me? As a fatter of mact a game session planned for tonight got cancelled, gimp is open and I have time on my hands. Beasts with two backs, coming up...er, yeah. Help, I deleted the "end quote" code and now I am putting words in Vermin King's mouth!
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 3, 2017 18:09:07 GMT -9
I still think we ought to be able to give 'two thumbs up' instead of just one. Bless you and yours, sir, to a thousand generations
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 3, 2017 18:59:45 GMT -9
So, the hound was super easy. The elk took a little more and I think it is actually at the edge of my skill level, but at "game table distance" it should be fine.
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Post by Papercraft Warrior on Jan 4, 2017 4:35:51 GMT -9
So, the hound was super easy. The elk took a little more and I think it is actually at the edge of my skill level, but at "game table distance" it should be fine. Superb work, seeing things as this done gives inspiration to the rest of us.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 4, 2017 4:50:24 GMT -9
By the way the Fodor Coach is coming along, but I am going back to my original thought on something I will explain after the photos In the file posted above you will notice I left the wagon frame on the bottom of the compartment sides and ends. My thought was that you could do a quick version of this with the front axle glued under the front of the box and the rear axle to the back of the wagon frame. Or you could slide this into the longer frame. This makes the more detailed version much more difficult than it needs to be. I had 'guessed' at the tapered geometry of the front of the frame, and then questioned it. That is why the front end of the frame is detached and too big. I was going to trim it all to fit, and scan back in. Easy to fix. I still like the idea of the frame box, but should I also do a box for the easy version when I knock the frame off the compartment?
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Post by Papercraft Warrior on Jan 4, 2017 6:07:24 GMT -9
I apologize for barging in uninvited. I wanted to help since Vermin King was kind to help with the 6x6 APV reinforcements. The animals had the white outline artifacts from the previous white background. I cleaned it up on elk and the dog. [Original attachment removed; available now via Hoard #148] The "png" has shrank in size, since it can now compress better (lossless compression). If it is ok, and there is enough time, I can try to finish the horses as well till the end of the week.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 4, 2017 7:02:17 GMT -9
Thanks for the help, folks. As I said several times before, I use a sledgehammer approach. I'm working on my skills and my projects are improving, but I'm still not at a professional level.
Thanks
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Post by cowboyleland on Jan 4, 2017 7:23:55 GMT -9
I apologize for barging in uninvited. I wanted to help since Vermin King was kind to help with the 6x6 APV reinforcements. The animals had the white outline artifacts from the previous white background. I cleaned it up on elk and the dog. I wasn't sure if the white between the image and the border was intended or not. bravesirkevin has a white line that fades to black on his figures and they look great. I thought maybe Vermin King was trying the same thing.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 4, 2017 7:50:43 GMT -9
Not intentional, but when it was there, I decided I didn't mind it
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Post by Papercraft Warrior on Jan 4, 2017 8:02:28 GMT -9
Which one would you prefer?
Should I do the horses too?
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 4, 2017 8:18:35 GMT -9
As these horses are blackish, I think I prefer the white ghost line. On the elk particularly, I was thinking the line was questionable. On the black horses, I think it actually helps. I'm learning. That's why I appreciate feedback and discussion
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Post by Papercraft Warrior on Jan 4, 2017 8:30:46 GMT -9
Makes sense.
I am still in learning mode myself, the Gimp is a versatile tool, but covers a large swath of ground for the self tought.
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Post by Vermin King on Jan 5, 2017 9:16:58 GMT -9
Well, I'm afraid that the coaches aren't going to be done until this weekend. Have we put off closing the Procrastinator's Hoard long enough?
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