Thanks for the kind words and VK, thank you for the historical tidbits. Work had interfered the last couple of days, so not a lot accomplished. I have, however, done some research on multiple horse teams and have decided how I am going to approach the running gear and horse hook-up. I found a couple of good diagrams that will help immensely. I had put them in a word document, but I cannot figure out how to add that to his post. I'll have to take pictures of the diagrams and post them later.
I think I will limit my rigging to just the load bearing straps that connect the horses to the tongue and the reins. Since the horses will not be rounded, I don't think any of the other parts of the tack would work well.
Last Edit: Mar 20, 2018 16:53:12 GMT -9 by missileer
I am not quite finished assembling the wall, but I have finished the horse. One thing that I learned during this task is that you need a 24 hour period after gluing a cutout to the stack to completely cure the glue. If you added one layer at a time, it would take 14 days to build the horse. I had applied several layers each day and the horse warped between applications and it took a some work to flatten it back out. My next horse will be assembled using this plan. Day 1: Glue 6 separate stacks of of 2 filler horses (do not use the colored horses in any of these stacks). Day 2: Glue each set of 2 stacks together (you now have 3 stacks). Day 3: Glue all 3 stacks together and let cure for 48 hours. Each day during the curing, the horse stacks should be under pressure to keep them flat. I would put a layer of waxed paper on the table, add the stacks, then add another layer of waxed paper on top of the stacks. Now add a weight on top of the waxed paper covering all of the stacks to provide the curing pressure. OK, I'll step away from the podium and shut up. Pictures below of the finished horse.
I was wondering where you found the horse you are using. Are there others where you found it? I think they would look good pulling Washington's carriage
There are no strangers in this world,only people I haven't embarrassed ... yet!
I have been sort of winging this diorama, letting it lead me down the road. My plan has finally gelled and here is a description of what the final product should look like. I am sure there will be minor changes (small details added), but the general description will hold true. The footprint will be approximately 22 inches by 34 inches. Placing the 22 inch side in front of you. with the 34 inch side leading away from you, the Guild Hall and White Hart Inn will be in the lower right hand corner. The Clock Tower of Jake's Corner will be in the upper left hand corner. A curving dirt road, starting near the lower left corner and ending near the upper right corner, will leave the two buildings on opposite sides of the road. I stone surfaced courtyard will surround the Guild/Inn building on three sides. I may add a well for the horses, but then I may not. The long rear side of the building will be bordered by grass. The Clock Tower will have a smaller stone surfaced courtyard in front of the building and extending around the left side. Road traffic will be busy. There will be the Fancy Coach, pulled by 4 horses, coming from the direction of London, followed by two villagers, each leading a pack horse. From the other direction, you will see two freight wagons, each pulled by 2 horses, followed in the distance by a unicorn with a female villager riding sidesaddle. In the Guild/Inn courtyard will be 1 Fodor coach ( all coaches will have two horses) 1 straight sided Tudor coach and 2 slant sided Tudors of different colors. The coaches will all have small freight loads and there will be two or three villagers with hand carts heading for the coaches. In the courtyard of the Clock Tower you will see 1 Tudor carriage (two horses) and a merchants wagon (two horses) set up for a sales effort of cloth and tea (maybe some other items). There will be numerous villagers wondering about. Some working; some not.
The wheels and the horses are the time consumers, along with the tack harnesses for the horses. Each wheel is 10 layers and each horse is 14 layers. This alone could drain my supply of Tullamore Dew. The other time consumer is the egg crate bracing I use for the inside of the buildings. My goal is to have the whole thing assembled by Sept 1, so that I will still have good weather to build the cover for it. Well, there is the plan, but as the old military axiom states, "The best plan never survives first contact with the enemy".
No, I did not quit the project; a lot of real life stuff got in the way. I am now able to grab a little time, here and there, to work on the important things. I am currently working on paperschnitzel's market wagon. I am applying the layering bit and doing a bit of kit bashing also. I am using VK's wheels, because my village has only one wheelwright, so the wagons built locally would all sport the same wheel design. I have thickened the wagon tongue, by adding two more layers and am going to take the storage box from paperschnitzel's travel wagon and add three on them to the blank side of the market wagon. I think the tinkerer would have taken emergency rations for his horses. Anyway, here is where I am in the assembly process. Photo 1 shows the "kit" development and Photo 2 shows the current stage of assembly. Hopefully, I will have some further progress in the next couple of days. I am also still working on two of VK's wagon efforts ( the blue straight sided Tudor coach and the "Washington" restoration.
Post by Coyotepunc on Apr 29, 2018 18:44:17 GMT -9
That "real life" guy is a total jerk sometimes.
Hi! I'm Harry, and I am a hobby addict. I prefer papercraft scenery to use alongside my 28mm metal and plastic miniatures, and am not afraid to mix and match my hobby media. I game sci-fi, fantasy, and historical (including Ancients, Dark Ages, Renaissance, and World War II Pacific Theater (oddly in both 28mm infantry and 3mm aircraft.)
Thanks, all, for the vote of confidence. I have made some more progress. I am getting close to the finish line on the Market Wagon. I have to finish assembling and installing the three cargo pouches for the blank side and then glue the roof in place. I will be using a pair of dark brown horses for this wagon (yeah, that means cutting out 24 more horse blanks).
Because I used wheels other than the ones intended by the designer, I had to make a modification on the rear axle to keep the wagon reasonably level, fore and aft. Hope to have it finished by the end of the weekend. Anyway, here are the pics.
The Market Wagon (with modifications) is finished. It may be a bit off scale with the other coaches, but it should not be noticeable. The Market Wagon and Travel Wagon will be parked across the road from the coaches. Here is the finished (sans horses) product.
I didn't show the underside, because I included that photo in my last post. I used the door hinges and pull on the storage pouches, because I liked the style. I have not yet decided on the breed of horse to pull the wagons. It will have to be a heavy hauler (Percheron/Shire/Clydesdale). In researching horses, I found out that the Clydesdale was originally a small horse. Breeders made it taller. I guess that they never heard of the engineers golden rule : IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
OK! The Tudor straight sided coach is in the home stretch. I have the individual pieces of cargo assembled and the coach finished with the exception of the stirrups, the driver and mounting the cargo. I will assemble the horses after I finish all the wagons. I have yet to decide which color horse will go with which coach. Here is the photo of the current state of the Tudor straight sided coach. The larger rear wheels are about 1 inch in diameter.
Vermin King: I still don't think I have it, but been doing run around trying to get in to see someone, somewhere about getting tested. If not The Virus, I still need to figure out what this is and get it knocked out
Apr 1, 2020 9:46:27 GMT -9
squirmydad: A friend of mine just came though it, it was awful. Hang in there pal.
Apr 1, 2020 8:25:12 GMT -9
Vermin King: Well, fever is back down, but zero energy
Apr 1, 2020 4:18:51 GMT -9
Vermin King: I wish I hadn't been curious. Hadn't taken my temperature for a few days, and I'm running a slight fever again. I'm so ticked off. I guess tomorrow I will have to do the nurse hotline. Sun on the Beach...
Mar 31, 2020 18:52:32 GMT -9
Vermin King: But I had to drop off my electric bill before Monday (an excuse to get out), and saw I still had a full tank of gas. Filled up on 3/11 and after tonight have gone 54.7 miles ...
Mar 31, 2020 16:10:45 GMT -9
Vermin King: Since my Location is either Randolph, Sugar Creek, Four miles SW of Sugar Creek, or Raytown, I wonder if I'm being shown as ignoring the order. As with all stats, you have to take them with a grain of salt
Mar 31, 2020 4:55:05 GMT -9
Vermin King: I see that Stay-at-Home is only about 45% effective in the US. That is 45% of folks with cell phones are staying put. Big Brother is tracking cell phone GPS. And why not?
Mar 31, 2020 4:52:33 GMT -9
Vermin King: I keep getting a server error when I try to get the rules. I'll have to try some other time
Mar 31, 2020 4:50:10 GMT -9
squirmydad: Fast? Today is only the 98th of March...
Mar 30, 2020 17:18:33 GMT -9
Parduz: how are you going, guys? things are running so fast!
Mar 30, 2020 15:11:23 GMT -9
marcpasquin: After Goscinny died, people thought it would be the end of Asterix as he was the writing part of the team but Uderzo managed to keep it going and eventually pass on the torch to new teams that still produce albums to this day.
Mar 26, 2020 7:08:19 GMT -9
marcpasquin: Asterix was such a big part of my childhood. Not only did I read all the albums but every years the cartoon movies were part of "Ciné-Cadeau", a holiday time programming block on Télé-Québec that showed animated movies for kids.
Mar 26, 2020 7:06:53 GMT -9
lightning: I cannot count how often I read Asterix and Obelix as a kid. Loved how it always ended at a big town dinner around a huge bonfire and the troubadour was gagged somewhere so he couldn't sing. Good times!
Mar 25, 2020 0:03:40 GMT -9
Parduz: I still love that comics. Some of them (around the middle age of Asterix production) have some of the best story/dialogues/jokes ever.
Mar 24, 2020 11:31:07 GMT -9
squirmydad: God I LOVED those books as a child. Sorry to see him pass.
Mar 24, 2020 8:50:27 GMT -9
wyvern: RIP Albert Uderzo, co-creator with René Goscinny of the Asterix comic books. [And no, he died from a heart attack.]
Mar 24, 2020 6:27:38 GMT -9
Vermin King: Trump is an S-hole, but Clinton should be in prison. I don't like Biden, but at least it's a step up from 2016
Mar 22, 2020 18:40:25 GMT -9
Vermin King: Well, my efforts to reboot 2020 haven't worked, so I probably won't try the others. BTW, I have always said I am an equal opportunity politician basher. Trump is undoubtedly an ass, but I still have to look at him being the lesser of two evils.
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