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Post by printableheroes on Aug 28, 2017 22:07:08 GMT -9
Here's my entry for the single figure design, Orcus the Demon Lord of Undeath   and then a couple extra for flavor and scale,   Here's the link to the PDF file for Orcus
This is a bit of an anniversary/milestone for me, it was this time last year I'd tried my hand at my first large scale paper miniature which I'd finished just in time to enter into last years Papercuts. At the time I'd only recently found out about this wonderful paper crafting community and had absolutely no idea what I was doing (I actually thought black borders were unnecessary lol). It's so cool looking back on it, at all of the minis I've created since then, getting to appreciate how much I've learned, and looking forward to all of the minis I can't wait to try making. |
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Post by nullpointer on Aug 28, 2017 22:37:27 GMT -9
DUDE
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Post by okumarts on Aug 29, 2017 6:32:53 GMT -9
That guy is epic. Wow. Truly a wonderful paper mini.
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Post by wyvern on Aug 29, 2017 9:17:06 GMT -9
Yes indeed, it's a really wonderful looking mini.
However, the PDF file seems slightly different, as the black border is not nearly so pronounced, plus the back version of the upright figure cannot be used to generate a double-sided mini, only the one tilted over at an angle (click on the mini in the PDF to see what I mean). I wondered if the PDF had used the wrong artwork mistakenly?
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Post by printableheroes on Aug 29, 2017 10:17:07 GMT -9
Yes indeed, it's a really wonderful looking mini. However, the PDF file seems slightly different, as the black border is not nearly so pronounced, plus the back version of the upright figure cannot be used to generate a double-sided mini, only the one tilted over at an angle (click on the mini in the PDF to see what I mean). I wondered if the PDF had used the wrong artwork mistakenly? Hrm. I just double checked the PDF file and I'm not seeing the issue you're calling out. If you click on the initial images (Front and Back) it will swap to an angled version for both the front and the back view for printing. If you click again it will cycle to a black and white line art version, a further click will reset the PDF to the default. There is a button (a black silhouette of a figure with + icon) that will add a black border behind the art. I included that so people could print with or without a black border if they wanted to. Please let me know if that is still not showing up correctly for you. |
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 29, 2017 11:11:56 GMT -9
I didn't print it, but it looked right to me
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Post by jeffgeorge on Aug 29, 2017 12:00:27 GMT -9
Yes indeed, it's a really wonderful looking mini. However, the PDF file seems slightly different, as the black border is not nearly so pronounced, plus the back version of the upright figure cannot be used to generate a double-sided mini, only the one tilted over at an angle (click on the mini in the PDF to see what I mean). I wondered if the PDF had used the wrong artwork mistakenly? I'm a printableheroes patron, and I've printed a lot of Marshall's minis, so I'm hip to what's going on here. The PDF is working as intended, but perhaps that intention isn't 100% clear. All of Marshall's PDFs open up displaying a "cover image" that you're not supposed to print. That's why the border in the "cover image" is narrow--it's for display, not for use. To get to the version you're supposed to print, you click that image, and the PDF cycles through however many printable versions of the mini are provided--in this case, a full-color version and a line-art version. You aren't supposed to print the "cover image", so there's no reason to expect the front and back versions of it to align. ONLY the angled version is intended to be printed, either as full-color or (for the hard-core DIY crowd) line-art versions. This is all slightly clearer in Marshall's more typical PDFs, in which there are several minis on a page, and more room for decorative backgrounds around the display version on the cover layer. For what it's worth, Marshall's PDFs are coded to be fully interactive, allowing the user to cycle through all versions, and toggle the black outlines, without having to go into the layers menu--very professional. |
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Post by jeffgeorge on Aug 29, 2017 12:08:18 GMT -9
BTW, it was fun having this category to myself for a few weeks.  If you look closely, I'm pretty sure my little hobbit is one of the dead guys caught in the swirling magical green goo flowing from Orcus's left hand. Or at least I like to think he is... But at least I now know his name. He's Avis. He tries harder. |
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Post by printableheroes on Aug 29, 2017 12:33:11 GMT -9
Yes indeed, it's a really wonderful looking mini. However, the PDF file seems slightly different, as the black border is not nearly so pronounced, plus the back version of the upright figure cannot be used to generate a double-sided mini, only the one tilted over at an angle (click on the mini in the PDF to see what I mean). I wondered if the PDF had used the wrong artwork mistakenly? I'm a printableheroes patron, and I've printed a lot of Marshall's minis, so I'm hip to what's going on here. The PDF is working as intended, but perhaps that intention isn't 100% clear. All of Marshall's PDFs open up displaying a "cover image" that you're not supposed to print. That's why the border in the "cover image" is narrow--it's for display, not for use. To get to the version you're supposed to print, you click that image, and the PDF cycles through however many printable versions of the mini are provided--in this case, a full-color version and a line-art version. You aren't supposed to print the "cover image", so there's no reason to expect the front and back versions of it to align. ONLY the angled version is intended to be printed, either as full-color or (for the hard-core DIY crowd) line-art versions. This is all slightly clearer in Marshall's more typical PDFs, in which there are several minis on a page, and more room for decorative backgrounds around the display version on the cover layer. For what it's worth, Marshall's PDFs are coded to be fully interactive, allowing the user to cycle through all versions, and toggle the black outlines, without having to go into the layers menu--very professional. "...working as intended, but perhaps that intention isn't 100% clear." With that quote I feel like you just isolated and defined the core of my being lol. |
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Post by nolabert on Aug 29, 2017 12:50:11 GMT -9
No, jeffgeorge , your halfling is a dauntless fellow. He certainly is outmatched in strength and power by the demon lord, but not necessarily in his resolve. Btw, I'm going to feature your halfling fighter in an encounter with one of printableheroes bulettes in my next 5E campaign adventure. My PCs will hear the sounds of a battle from over a hillock and see the fight between a stalwart halfling and a ravenous bulette. I'm hoping this produces a dilemma between self-interest and selflessness in my PCs. It's not their fight but can they just walk away, especially in the face of such heroism? |
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Post by printableheroes on Aug 29, 2017 13:19:55 GMT -9
No, jeffgeorge , your halfling is a dauntless fellow. He certainly is outmatched in strength and power by the demon lord, but not necessarily in his resolve. Btw, I'm going to feature your halfling fighter in an encounter with one of printableheroes bulettes in my next 5E campaign adventure. My PCs will hear the sounds of a battle from over a hillock and see the fight between a stalwart halfling and a ravenous bulette. I'm hoping this produces a dilemma between self-interest and selflessness in my PCs. It's not their fight but can they just walk away, especially in the face of such heroism? I for one would love to see pictures of such an heroic confrontation  |
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Post by nullpointer on Aug 29, 2017 14:47:06 GMT -9
He's Avis. He tries harder. He will make a fine addition to the undead legion. |
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Post by jeffgeorge on Aug 29, 2017 21:40:22 GMT -9
No, jeffgeorge , your halfling is a dauntless fellow. He certainly is outmatched in strength and power by the demon lord, but not necessarily in his resolve. Btw, I'm going to feature your halfling fighter in an encounter with one of printableheroes bulettes in my next 5E campaign adventure. My PCs will hear the sounds of a battle from over a hillock and see the fight between a stalwart halfling and a ravenous bulette. I'm hoping this produces a dilemma between self-interest and selflessness in my PCs. It's not their fight but can they just walk away, especially in the face of such heroism? Now he has a last name, too. Avis McSplat. |
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Post by jeffgeorge on Aug 29, 2017 21:44:38 GMT -9
I for one would love to see pictures of such an heroic confrontation A thousand years ago, for a game convention, I designed a wargame version of the classic, "Bambi vs. Godzilla." The board consisted of a single hex, and each player had a single counter. The Bambi player set up first, then the Godzilla player deployed his counter, which actually represented Godzilla's right rear foot. Of course, moving into Bambi's hex constituted an attack by Godzilla against Bambi. The attacker rolled 1d6 and consulted the Combat Resolution Matrix to resolve the attack: Roll: 1 2 3 4 5 6
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Result: A A A A A A
Combat Outcomes:
D: Defender victorious; attacking unit eliminated.
O: Inconclusive; attacker retreats from hex.
A: Attacker victorious; defending unit eliminated.
In playtest, some players felt the game lacked the depth necessary for repeated play. I eventually abandoned the design. |
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Post by godofrandomness on Aug 29, 2017 22:44:52 GMT -9
Those pics remind me that this guy is getting bumped to the top of my "stuff to build" pile.
Also, for those prone to missing the obvious (like myself), remember on these multi page minis from Printableheroes that the mini comes in a box on the printout. Use that to align the front and back pieces, and don't just stick the whole 2 pages together. My first attempt of the Ancient Dragon is funny looking from that error...
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Post by soaringraven on Aug 30, 2017 1:57:46 GMT -9
I for one would love to see pictures of such an heroic confrontation A thousand years ago, for a game convention, I designed a wargame version of the classic, "Bambi vs. Godzilla." The board consisted of a single hex, and each player had a single counter. The Bambi player set up first, then the Godzilla player deployed his counter, which actually represented Godzilla's right rear foot. Of course, moving into Bambi's hex constituted an attack by Godzilla against Bambi. The attacker rolled 1d6 and consulted the Combat Resolution Matrix to resolve the attack: Roll: 1 2 3 4 5 6
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Result: A A A A A A
Combat Outcomes:
D: Defender victorious; attacking unit eliminated.
O: Inconclusive; attacker retreats from hex.
A: Attacker victorious; defending unit eliminated.
In playtest, some players felt the game lacked the depth necessary for repeated play. I eventually abandoned the design. Now, that's really strange. I could play that game all day long - simple, streamlined rules, interesting topic and a satisfying conclusion. You must have had very short-sighted players, indeed!  |
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Post by jeffgeorge on Aug 30, 2017 7:12:09 GMT -9
Now, that's really strange. I could play that game all day long - simple, streamlined rules, interesting topic and a satisfying conclusion. You must have had very short-sighted players, indeed! It was the mid-80s. We were all playing SPI games back then. Gettysburg, anyone? |
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Post by nullpointer on Aug 30, 2017 8:24:39 GMT -9
Did you have a different roll table for every combination of combatants? Surely some of them did end up just as unbalanced as facing Orcus right (peasant levees versus horse archers)?
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Post by jeffgeorge on Aug 30, 2017 8:38:33 GMT -9
Did you have a different roll table for every combination of combatants? Surely some of them did end up just as unbalanced as facing Orcus right (peasant levees versus horse archers)? It was just Bambi vs. Godzilla, and Godzilla got the first attack. That one table handled it just fine. |
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Post by nolabert on Aug 30, 2017 9:09:01 GMT -9
Godzilla is too OP.
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 30, 2017 9:35:14 GMT -9
Orcus vs Godzilla, I'm just saying ...
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Post by wyvern on Aug 30, 2017 11:57:08 GMT -9
Yes indeed, it's a really wonderful looking mini. However, the PDF file seems slightly different, as the black border is not nearly so pronounced, plus the back version of the upright figure cannot be used to generate a double-sided mini, only the one tilted over at an angle (click on the mini in the PDF to see what I mean). I wondered if the PDF had used the wrong artwork mistakenly? Hrm. I just double checked the PDF file and I'm not seeing the issue you're calling out. If you click on the initial images (Front and Back) it will swap to an angled version for both the front and the back view for printing. If you click again it will cycle to a black and white line art version, a further click will reset the PDF to the default. There is a button (a black silhouette of a figure with + icon) that will add a black border behind the art. I included that so people could print with or without a black border if they wanted to. Please let me know if that is still not showing up correctly for you. I'm a printableheroes patron, and I've printed a lot of Marshall's minis, so I'm hip to what's going on here. The PDF is working as intended, but perhaps that intention isn't 100% clear. All of Marshall's PDFs open up displaying a "cover image" that you're not supposed to print. That's why the border in the "cover image" is narrow--it's for display, not for use. To get to the version you're supposed to print, you click that image, and the PDF cycles through however many printable versions of the mini are provided--in this case, a full-color version and a line-art version. You aren't supposed to print the "cover image", so there's no reason to expect the front and back versions of it to align. ONLY the angled version is intended to be printed, either as full-color or (for the hard-core DIY crowd) line-art versions. This is all slightly clearer in Marshall's more typical PDFs, in which there are several minis on a page, and more room for decorative backgrounds around the display version on the cover layer. For what it's worth, Marshall's PDFs are coded to be fully interactive, allowing the user to cycle through all versions, and toggle the black outlines, without having to go into the layers menu--very professional. Thanks both for the explanations. I'd never have guessed any of this from the PDF though, nor is it obvious from the usual layers options, which don't seem to control any of this at all. Given this isn't a standard mechanic anyone else in papercrafting normally uses, so far as I'm aware, maybe a few explanatory notes in this one for us ordinary mortals without infinite spare cash to splash on every Patreon project we might wish to would have been helpful? Just a thought, given the Papercuts freebies are intended as standalone items to showcase the best in papercraft, to help encourage those without any experience of the subject to dip-in their toes, as well as for those of us who've been doing this for decades to enjoy. |
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Post by printableheroes on Aug 30, 2017 17:08:02 GMT -9
I for one would love to see pictures of such an heroic confrontation A thousand years ago, for a game convention, I designed a wargame version of the classic, "Bambi vs. Godzilla." The board consisted of a single hex, and each player had a single counter. The Bambi player set up first, then the Godzilla player deployed his counter, which actually represented Godzilla's right rear foot. Of course, moving into Bambi's hex constituted an attack by Godzilla against Bambi. The attacker rolled 1d6 and consulted the Combat Resolution Matrix to resolve the attack: Roll: 1 2 3 4 5 6
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Result: A A A A A A
Combat Outcomes:
D: Defender victorious; attacking unit eliminated.
O: Inconclusive; attacker retreats from hex.
A: Attacker victorious; defending unit eliminated.
In playtest, some players felt the game lacked the depth necessary for repeated play. I eventually abandoned the design. Challenge accepted. A new hero has entered the game...  |
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Post by jeffgeorge on Aug 30, 2017 19:28:21 GMT -9
Challenge accepted. A new hero has entered the game...OK, hot shot. But that's only half the game. Where's the mini for Godzilla's right foot? |
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Post by nullpointer on Aug 30, 2017 20:07:43 GMT -9
You need to enter this into Papercuts -- you still have a day, I think it could be a contender.
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Post by printableheroes on Aug 31, 2017 8:17:08 GMT -9
Challenge accepted. A new hero has entered the game...OK, hot shot. But that's only half the game. Where's the mini for Godzilla's right foot? Oh shoot, I clearly didn't think this through to it's logical conclusion. |
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 31, 2017 8:23:40 GMT -9
You know it would have been a great Multi-Figure submission
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Post by printableheroes on Aug 31, 2017 9:22:51 GMT -9
You know it would have been a great Multi-Figure submission Is the deadline is midnight tonight or did it end this morning? |
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Post by Vermin King on Aug 31, 2017 9:50:35 GMT -9
When Squirmydad wakes up tomorrow
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Post by squirmydad on Aug 31, 2017 12:38:36 GMT -9
When Squirmydad wakes up tomorrow September 1st, 7am Alaska time.  |
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