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Post by Punkrabbitt on Sept 12, 2017 14:23:45 GMT -9
Is anyone up for making the USS Orville (from the new TV show "The Orville") in 2.5D, preferably in roughly 1/4000 or 1/5000 scale? I can visual how to create the form, but I don't have the technical skill to create the quantum drive loops on the rear end. Nor can I find a good ortho for the image details.
Thank you.
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Post by shep on Sept 13, 2017 5:33:01 GMT -9
Scale is a problem, if there's no info about the ship's length...
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Post by alloydog on Sept 13, 2017 7:08:05 GMT -9
There's a spiral staircase with a handrail. Also from the trailers, you could probably guestimate the height of the ceiling from the floor and so come up with something.
With my trusty metal rule hovering over my tablet screen, I'll have a pitch at 1mm per metre, sooooo: 121 × 32 × 26 metres (l x w x h)
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Sept 13, 2017 9:58:16 GMT -9
That would put it under an inch long at 1:5000, and under 1 1/4" at 1:4000. Too small for a good model, I guess. If I find a decent ortho I know how to make it work that small
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Post by oldschooldm on Sept 13, 2017 12:38:22 GMT -9
So curvy = so hard to build (as a 3D model, that is...)
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Sept 13, 2017 12:43:39 GMT -9
So curvy = so hard to build (as a 3D model, that is...) I build my Star Trek ships along shep's style, with top and side views forming a cross. This one will be small enough to kust do top/bottom plus the curvy quantum drives on the back end.
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Post by jeffgeorge on Sept 13, 2017 14:53:06 GMT -9
Here's my model of the Orville (primed but not painted)...
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 13, 2017 15:04:41 GMT -9
Can't wait to see it finished. What scale is it?
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Post by jeffgeorge on Sept 13, 2017 15:33:13 GMT -9
Can't wait to see it finished. What scale is it? Women's size 8.
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Post by cowboycentaur on Sept 14, 2017 4:37:09 GMT -9
Can't wait to see it finished. What scale is it? Women's size 8. 😂😂😂
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Post by alloydog on Sept 14, 2017 4:58:43 GMT -9
Here's my model of the Orville (primed but not painted)... Woogie like!
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 14, 2017 5:13:07 GMT -9
I have to admit, the opening episode was MUCH better than I expected. I was expecting more crudity, slapstick, and poor visuals. My intelligence was only barely insulted. I'm hopefully optimistic
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Post by oldschooldm on Sept 14, 2017 6:40:51 GMT -9
I have to admit, the opening episode was MUCH better than I expected. I was expecting more crudity, slapstick, and poor visuals. My intelligence was only barely insulted. I'm hopefully optimistic You are *so* kind. Ugh. I thought it was a poor Star Trek clone with johnny-o Jokes. I'm harsher than you, but not as harsh as this: www.indiewire.com/2017/09/the-orville-review-seth-macfarlane-star-trek-rip-off-1201874080/-- That's the last thing I'll say about the show itself --
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Post by shep on Sept 14, 2017 6:50:50 GMT -9
Yeah, thanks... I haven't seen it yet. And now I don't know whether I still want to...
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 14, 2017 7:42:56 GMT -9
Sometimes it is better to expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised that it is not as awful as you expected
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Post by jeffgeorge on Sept 14, 2017 7:53:05 GMT -9
Sometimes it is better to expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised that it is not as awful as you expected Excellent point. The first time I saw the original Ghostbusters movie, I went with friends who'd already seen it once. They were raving about how it was the funniest movie of all time, and I had to see it, and they all wanted to go see it a second time its first week of release. We went. I saw it. And I thought, "Meh. I guess." Six months later, our GM wasn't ready to run on a Friday night, and someone pointed out that Ghostbusters was running at the dollar-movie theatre. (This was before VHS, let alone DVD! We still had second-run movie houses back then.) So I went along with them, because I had nothing better to do, and it only cost a dollar. That second time, expecting nothing, I laughed my a$$ off. I noticed stuff that went right past me the first time, and I really did walk out feeling like it was one of the funniest films I'd seen in a long time. Well worth my dollar that night. The point is, neither time I saw Ghostbusters in the theater were my expectations fair. The first time, it had been built up by my friend's enthusiasm to a level no film could ever attain, and the second time, my prior disappointment lowered my expectations so far that a couple of knock-knock jokes would have seemed like comedy gold to me. I have a pretty realistic expectation for Orville, which I haven't seen yet. I recently saw McFarlane's A Million Ways to Die in the West on Amazon Prime, having heard nothing but terrible reviews about it. But knowing what to expect from a Seth McFarlane film in terms of slapstick and poop jokes, I actually really enjoyed the movie. So I'll look for Orville on demand, and give it a go. I have laughed at the trailers, and am cautiously optimistic that the show will be funny, if you go in open to a Seth-McFarlane-style satire.
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 14, 2017 8:05:33 GMT -9
Either he or the producers are trying to tone down the 'Seth-ishness'. It will never reach classic status (unless they surprise me), but okay when there is nothing better on.
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Post by shep on Sept 14, 2017 8:15:58 GMT -9
What I actually hate about all those "experts" who professionally reviewed the show before its premiere is how close-minded they watched it. All I got from their reviews was "Don't watch it, it's not Family Guy in Space..." Well, I didn't expect that anyways, and I'm actually glad about it, since I detest Family Guy! Might be that my German mind is not suited for that kind of humor or might be that I can only see a bad Simpsons rip-off in the show (and even the Simpsons have lost me ages ago). Anyways, I expect from Orville to be somewhat like inbetween TNG and Galaxy Quest (if the latter would have been the show it was about ). Since you can watch it on the website of Fox, maybe I'll watch it later... or I'll wait for the German dub (should there ever be one)... ... ... ...nah, I'll watch it on Fox.
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 14, 2017 8:25:53 GMT -9
I was expecting Family Guy/Spaceballs, so I plan on watching a couple more episodes before I decide whether to follow. Some of the sets were good, the shuttle concept seemed good (if you are going to a planet, it makes sense for the shuttle to be more aerodynamic), and with 3000 ships out and about, it makes sense that the crew isn't 100% highest caliber. It's kind of like the average workplace, where there is a huge difference in how much the crew takes the job seriously.
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Post by jeffgeorge on Sept 14, 2017 10:35:11 GMT -9
Okay, I just finished it (Should have been coding or writing...oh well...will do that tonight, I guess). I have to say, I enjoyed it, though I can see that it may not find an audience. It's not Family Guy or Spaceballs...I'm not sure what to compare it with right away, frankly. The closest I can think of would be ST:TNG meets The Office, if you can imagine that. It's got both sarcastic dialog as well as genuine heart, so it's actually kind of right up my alley.
One thing to bear in mind is that it's not just Seth McFarlane--Jon Favreau is also a producer and the director of the first episode. I'd say that sarcastic dialog and genuine heart are among his trademarks, as well as a deep love for geek source material, including things like Iron Man and Star Trek.
So...overall, I'm optimistic. It wasn't perfect, and has room to improve and grow, but for a first episode, it wasn't bad at all.
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Post by grendelsmother64 on Sept 14, 2017 14:27:52 GMT -9
Nope. Don't see this one getting picked up for a second season. I barely made it through episode one. After seeing the ads I was expecting a kinda lame version of Galaxy Quest. Turns out it's a really lame version of Galaxy Quest. A real shame, because there's some decent actors in this that can do comedy...but the writing was horrible. Let me know if it gets better, I doubt I'll stick around for episode 2. GM64
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Post by shep on Sept 15, 2017 0:44:29 GMT -9
Watched it last night and really enjoyed it. It had some rather dull moments, but that's the case with every pilot episode of every series, if we are honest. "Mission Farpoint" also was rather mediocre compared to most of the rest of TNG, so I have hopes "The Orville" will get better, esp. since I know that Jonathan Frakes directed at least one of the other episodes. If I remember correctly, his episodes were among the better ones of "Voyager", and he did "Star Trek: Klingon" and some "Leverage" episodes, too. I' come to the conclusion that the trick to enjoy new scifi shows is to entirely drop your expectations. If you expect nothing, you can only be surprised. You cannot be disappointed, because you don't set a standard for the series to meet.
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Post by jeffgeorge on Sept 15, 2017 4:50:48 GMT -9
... I have hopes "The Orville" will get better, esp. since I know that Jonathan Frakes directed at least one of the other episodes. If I remember correctly, his episodes were among the better ones of "Voyager", and he did "Star Trek: Klingon" and some "Leverage" episodes, too. Frakes has also been heavily involved in The Librarians series--the one with Noah Wyle and Rebecca Romejn--as a frequent director and I believe a producer. That series has been a lot of fun over the past few years, as long as you weren't looking for anything too heavy or deep. It's been a show that my non-geek wife and I could enjoy together.
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Post by grendelsmother64 on Sept 15, 2017 9:13:31 GMT -9
I' come to the conclusion that the trick to enjoy new scifi shows is to entirely drop your expectations. If you expect nothing, you can only be surprised. You cannot be disappointed, because you don't set a standard for the series to meet. Sorry, that didn't work for me on this one. I just thought the jokes were flat and writing incredibly dull. There is one sci-fi show on TV right now that is really good....The Expanse. It's a syfy channel show, based on a series of novels. Set in the not too far future when people have colonized the asteroid belt and are beggining to terraform Mars. It's very well done. Really good effects, decent sets, accurate physics....and really good characters and writing. I think Adam Savage from mythbusters has some kind of stake in it, he has promoted it a fair bit....and he had a bit part in one episode (spoiler...he gets killed...) It's no Serenity, but in my humble opinion it's the best sci-fi that's been on TV for a long while... GM64 Oh....and many of the Earth exteriors are filmed in and around Toronto...Toronto has a lot of post modern and brutalist architecture style buildings that have a near future feel to them.
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Post by Vermin King on Sept 15, 2017 9:49:34 GMT -9
I've tried a couple times to get into watching The Expanse, but I still like Killjoys, except for the last half of the finale of season 3. Defiance started out good, but I think they tried too hard to push the limits in season two, and I lost interest
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Post by jeffgeorge on Sept 15, 2017 10:05:53 GMT -9
I've tried a couple times to get into watching The Expanse, but I still like Killjoys, except for the last half of the finale of season 3. Defiance started out good, but I think they tried too hard to push the limits in season two, and I lost interest I was very into The Expanse, but halfway through the second season--about when the Miller/Julie Mah plotline was resolved, to avoid giving spoilers--I missed a few episodes and lost track of what was going on. It's a complicated and multi-threaded narrative, and if you don't stay with it, it gets confusing fast. Eventually I'll find the time to binge the second season clear through--it will be worth the time, because the show is great. In many ways, it reminds me of my personal all-time favorite sci-fi novel trilogy, Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy. Same general time period and tech level, and same sort of multi-threaded plot, with lots of politics and intrigue mixed in with the adventure. Killjoys is fun, too, as is Dark Matter. For me, they are both like high-speed roller coaster rides, with just enough season-long story arc to keep you interested week to week. It's much easier to just "drop in" on Killjoys and Dark Matter than Expanse. I'd put Killjoys and Dark Matter in a different category than The Expanse, which actually has a lot in common with Game of Thrones and even the Galactica reboot, in terms of complicated plotting and political intrigue. Wynonna Earp also goes in the Killjoys/Dark Matter pile, and The Magicians started out in that group, but in the second season, it's started to wander over to The Expanses end of the spectrum. Defiance was somewhere in the middle, but more to the Killjoys end, I think. I miss Defiance...
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