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Post by lightning on Mar 10, 2018 3:39:35 GMT -9
Both the wayside shrine I made for the upcoming hoarde and a lot of requests of the Samurai village customers have me starting a full "Japanese" shrine set to add some spice to the village. I have started with this concept: a 6x6" base, raised platform and then the shrine building on top. In the process of comparing it to research I have changed the roof type so I can have the option of optional extensions. I'll post more soon, but if you want the (almost) daily update, check out the free part of my patreon page!
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 10, 2018 5:26:00 GMT -9
I guess that instead of working on Mythos creatures, I need to be working on Acolytes, Monks and Priests for the Hoard
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Post by lightning on Mar 12, 2018 4:53:01 GMT -9
Here is a little update. Have completed a test build (easy version with filler textures and flat stairs) of the base. I hope I will be able to make a "hero" build at the end where I cut out all the bars. Vermin King on the Hoarde thread you were wondering about the stairs. I am also planning to do a "real" version of the stairs. Hopefully also fold-flat-able. Will these work for you?
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Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Mar 12, 2018 4:58:08 GMT -9
Whatever you're paying those little lego dudes isn't enough. They're doing a fantastic job, as usual!
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 12, 2018 5:16:16 GMT -9
On the tatebanko, the figures glue onto a ramp that looks like stairs. They should work for this set of steps. I think they would work on 'real' steps, too.
I had put those figures back into storage until I heard back from you. In the model, there are many more steps between the priest and the 'train holder', but I think that can be adjusted
It looks like you decided to go with a lower deck and shorter stairs than on the render. Is this later version the one you are going to be going with?
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Post by lightning on Mar 12, 2018 8:09:03 GMT -9
Whatever you're paying those little lego dudes isn't enough. They're doing a fantastic job, as usual! LOL! On the tatebanko, the figures glue onto a ramp that looks like stairs. They should work for this set of steps. I think they would work on 'real' steps, too. I had put those figures back into storage until I heard back from you. In the model, there are many more steps between the priest and the 'train holder', but I think that can be adjusted It looks like you decided to go with a lower deck and shorter stairs than on the render. Is this later version the one you are going to be going with? Yes, I was comparing the render to real pics and found that esp the upper railing was usually much lower than I thought. And also the raised platform as a whole is often lower than I first thought. So I planned on this height. On the render the stairs also look way to steep. I am going for something like this: img00.deviantart.net/d65c/i/2009/061/b/e/japanese_shrine_symetry_by_prozzaks.jpgOf course I have seen bigger shrines with more height but I think for a gaming table this is enough.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 12, 2018 8:29:59 GMT -9
I have a totally unproved theory on that. It seems like coastal and plains shrines had shorter steps and not so steep. In the mountains, long steps and more steep. But I am not an expert. The train on the lead priest will definitely need to be adjusted, but that's okay. Place the guy in the lead at the base, stepping off the last step, with the 'train holder' on the platform, and it won't take much adjustment. I was working on them at lunch
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Post by lightning on Mar 13, 2018 1:22:53 GMT -9
I have a totally unproved theory on that. It seems like coastal and plains shrines had shorter steps and not so steep. In the mountains, long steps and more steep. ... Here is my first attempt at flat-foldable stairs. I picked up on an idea I have seen by oldschooldm in another thread some time ago. I want to add a back fold to the single stairs so they don't bend and then I will probably add a back tab to the sides so they can be slotted into the base.
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Post by oldschooldm on Mar 13, 2018 6:12:35 GMT -9
Great!
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Post by okumarts on Mar 13, 2018 6:20:35 GMT -9
OH WOW!
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Post by lightning on Mar 14, 2018 22:37:15 GMT -9
Walls are done. Roof (esp the flat-fold aspect is slowing me down a bit :-) ) will come next ... I have reused a Castle Tower roof for now. printableheroes Warrior monk is trying to separate the dueling okumarts Samurai!
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Post by lightning on Mar 16, 2018 0:05:42 GMT -9
I have settled on a fold-flat approach for the new roof. There some minor steps to add but in general it works fine now! Compared to the roof design of the bell tower I just had to let go the outer thin border for the fold-flat conversion. There is just not enough "meat" to attach that reasonably. I will keep them in for the fixed/glued assembly though, if you don't mind the roof to be not fold-flat-able. The roof is made out of two modules. The core is the extension of the walls and will hold the wider roof in place. The wider roof is the "actual" roof and is formed with the side clamps. I have decoupled the core part so that one can change and add any 4X4" base roof. And here they are ... flat! It took some switching around the way I organize the insertion of flaps but this way I think is the most efficient and stury. I have tried to let the weight of upper parts press down flexible parts. Gravity can do it's thing!
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Post by lightning on Mar 19, 2018 1:08:24 GMT -9
I have completed the first "beta" build. The roof is a non-fold-flat-fixed-glued version :-) with the outer rim parts added. The fold flat version will not have them but I think it will not look any less, as you have a better view of the the details under the roof. Next I will focus on the extensions modules!
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Post by lightning on Mar 20, 2018 23:12:55 GMT -9
Extending the base for a larger version ... While I made the extension parts I realized I could build even more layouts. I have a narrow (2") and wide (4") extension part and one could mod (esp the wide one) them also with stair. So basically on every side you have the possibility of on stairs, standards stairs and 2" and 4" stairs". Just the platform alone could be very interesting for all sorts of terrain ideas I think.
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Post by lightning on Mar 21, 2018 7:40:40 GMT -9
I was asked whether the platform would be able to carry metal minis. So I wanted to make a test with the new extended platform I built last night. I dug out all the metal minis of my old LotR-Collection and put as many as I could on the platform. I can hereby report, that it holds 531grams of metal minis without problems! This is what I put underneath. Nothing fancy. Paper is strong! While making the new extension parts (2" and in the photo the 4" version) I realized that I would be able to also mod them with stairs giving me so much more options on how to layout the platform.
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Post by lightning on Mar 23, 2018 7:38:28 GMT -9
Finished all the parts for the extended build... I find that the walls are too high placing the roof up too much, so I added an option to "cut" them off (before printing that is) by 1cm as the texturing supports that. Now on to weathering and moss ...
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Post by sunraven01 on Mar 23, 2018 13:01:24 GMT -9
Your construction is so clean. Beautifully done.
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Post by lightning on Mar 28, 2018 22:23:36 GMT -9
My loyal working crew is putting together the fold-flat version of the walls and roof with the extensions The walls and roof are done, now they are preparing the extension parts ... ... and after assembling the extension it will be slotted into the walls! Now only the platform is left to clean up and add all the missing bits.
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Post by lightning on Mar 30, 2018 23:54:37 GMT -9
All fold-flat Shinto shrine! I am starting to get the knack of the fold-flat approach. This was a fun project to realize. And I like that I was able to put some options in with the extended addons.
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Post by Vermin King on Mar 31, 2018 5:14:06 GMT -9
Looking really good, Chris.
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Post by oldschooldm on Apr 3, 2018 5:31:37 GMT -9
I am really amazed at the system you worked out to make that very non-rectangular roof fold-flat. Impressive!
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Post by lightning on Apr 3, 2018 7:13:40 GMT -9
I am really amazed at the system you worked out to make that very non-rectangular roof fold-flat. Impressive! WOW! Thanks, that means a lot from you Still feel like your Watson, Holmes!
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Post by jeffgeorge on Apr 3, 2018 11:51:06 GMT -9
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Post by lightning on Apr 3, 2018 23:36:59 GMT -9
Haha ... when it got later, they started the conga!
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Post by Vermin King on Apr 8, 2018 18:45:09 GMT -9
Party at VK's place, too This detail of a tatebanko just kinda gave me an urge to populate those stairs
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Post by lightning on Apr 8, 2018 20:29:50 GMT -9
That is a huge party :-)
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