Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Sept 19, 2018 4:42:53 GMT -9
It is really irresponsible to assume things and take it into your own hands to lie on social media. Shame on you. (1) I have not stolen anything. Everything has been created from scratch. None of your GSD files were used AT ALL. (2) I have communicated at different times with Tracey and Denny. He is aware of how to get in touch with me. In fact, he did get in touch with me.
Reaching out to either party directly was a simple task. Certainly there was one party you didn't bother to reach out to, in favor of lying on social media. Reprehensible. Beyond this, I have nothing to say to you. It feels like anything more would just be feeding trolls.
Post by cowboycentaur on Sept 19, 2018 4:46:54 GMT -9
All TerrainLinX files are protected by copyright. This means that you cannot use them, or any part of them, to produce your own compatible material.
The TerrainLinX system is Trademarked, which means you cannot use the name.
The TerrainLinX format cannot be patented due to previous existing 'cut and glue' paper-works. It's not a unique enough property.
So, you can make your own TLX-style material, but it has to be completely from scratch and not use any WWG resources or names.
This is what paper realms has done, it is perfectly legal and ethical to make a set of paper posts and walls that are comparable with another system. No worldworks games graphical assets or trademarked names are being used.
I am baffled why people keep deciding to be whistleblowers on such a non issue especially with someone who has such apparent contempt for his fans like Denny and has essentially abandoned his product line, yet refuses to sell it to anyone.
Post by bravesirkevin on Sept 19, 2018 8:47:14 GMT -9
With respect, highlandpiper, I think you have it exactly backwards. Paper Realms is making cool terrain that is compatible the the products of a more-or-less defunct company precisely because that company simply stopped making new stuff almost a decade ago. They didn't close up shop because people were stealing their ideas, they closed up shop because they had no interest in contributing any further to this community, and seem to harbour an open contempt for all their fans, and an open hatred for every creator on the scene. There are several creators around today that are thriving precisely because they have the exact opposite attitude.
Post by cowboycentaur on Sept 19, 2018 8:52:43 GMT -9
He has neve said the construction system was his original idea only the artwork. He has not copied any of the WWG only made a product that is comparable with it.
I'm astonished how people who have not been a part of this community for quite some time come in all aggressive and accusing at people who are creating things, participating in the community and contributing, but I guess it's easier to pop on and troll than to actually build a terrain system.
Post by mproteau (Paper Realms) on Sept 19, 2018 9:06:12 GMT -9
Thank you for toning down the rhetoric. That's appreciated - I'm far more happy to engage in honest dialog. Well, maybe I should say I'm far more *willing* to have honest dialog, and I'm pretty easy to get in touch with.
1) I said you certainly didn't reach out to *one party* and that was me. I do not judge you for an inability to communicate with Denny. That's on him. 2) It's true I've told people who have asked that the construction method is similar. Because I did the templates from scratch, I iterated over my own pieces to arrive where I'm at. Compatibility with anyone else's products was not a consideration, though I will freely admit that (and this is going to sound flip, but I don't know how else to say it) an inch is an inch. 3) I do NOT go around proclaiming that I've had an original idea, though I'd like to think that what I've done stores more compactly, has interesting options for flexibility, and is more reusable than other systems I'm aware of. 4) Point me to the post where I said "this is my original idea" and I'll clarify in the thread where they can find similar inspiration for the papercrafting I've done. 5) I don't believe WWG went out of business. They stopped producing products, but that's very different. You can still buy and (tech support willing) access products you've purchased. I do not feel like speculating about the reasons they chose to take a break from the niche business of papercraft terrain - there are all sorts of reasons to do so, and frankly it's none of my business to judge that. Like most people (yourself included, given posts you've made in these forums) that the WAY they walked away left a bad taste in many peoples' mouths. Still, the business is there, and they are free to come back to it at any time.
I'm not working with your GSD files. Honestly, I do not even know if GSD files load in modern Silhouette Studio versions. I haven't loaded a GSD file in many, many years and I'm sorry if you feel ripped off by that, but I did not utilize any of your past work. I also have not used any of WWGs textures or files at all during what was an embarrassingly slow process for me to get started. There was a lot of trial and a lot of error.
I apologise for my rashness in how I handled this. I do not agree With Paper Realms in what I see as "borrowing" but I could have handled it better.
Hi Highland, sorry for my rough English ... I think that this is a good stone to start a new discussion on the right path.
Not all people are able to apologize. Compliments. ;-)
I understand that doubts may arise from time to time. And any doubt authorizes to ask for explanations. Here in Italy we say that asking is always lawful, responding is courtesy (education).
But this is for you, for me, for mproteau, for all ... a place where we can exchange common passions, opinions, ideas, advice ... all things we have in common, identical things that unite us a bit' even if we are in many places and different nations ...
I bought all PaperRealms products but I don't think that all these sales have enriched mproteaull. Thus a theft would be totally useless imho.
There are doubts. You ask. It's your right. If people are honest ( as they are on this occasion ) they will respond.
Post by Vermin King on Sept 19, 2018 9:51:36 GMT -9
The concept of post and slot isn't exactly new, either. Many years ago, when a TLX (or similar system) was being discussed, I mentioned how it reminded me of a building toy I had when I was maybe five years old. It was plastic, with pins in the bottoms of the posts, that fit into a plastic base. The walls slotted into the posts, and to add levels, you stuck posts into the posts and added more walls. Then there were flat roof pieces to go over what you built.
I'm just saying, that it isn't really a new concept, just different. If you looked up my birthday, you would see how old the concept is
And I'm making an assumption that the playset I had was the folks that came up with the concept, which they may not have been
Post by cowboyleland on Sept 20, 2018 6:17:54 GMT -9
Were the posts white and there were white frames and plastic tiles of different colours and textures that popped into those frames? Because I had that toy too! I got it in a shoebox passed on from some other kids so I have no idea about brand or the name of it.
On the other hand, maybe it's the herd that is crazy.
Post by greypilgrim on Sept 20, 2018 13:15:47 GMT -9
That old set of plastic girders being mentioned was the Kenner Girder and Panel building system (which shot off the add-on Girder and Roadway sets) done in a variety of different sets of many sizes. I don't have my ORIGINAL sets, but I've snapped up a few along the way over the last decade or two. Fun Times!
Vermin King: Every so often a Thank You goes a long way. Ray over at Ravensblight is going through a dark time ( I know. Dark is kinda his theme ), but if you appreciate his work, you might go to the site and grab his email and send him a Thank You
Jun 18, 2020 12:22:38 GMT -9
Vermin King: That was a whole lot easier than expected. One click
Jun 18, 2020 5:10:41 GMT -9