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Post by Antohammer on May 12, 2019 22:24:44 GMT -9
Hi guys i have almost completed the second kickstarter.... so i was thinking what should i do next.... i have a lot of ideas.... but i dont know what is more needed out there or what is more intersting... letting aside the part of the money... up untill i have my boringreallifework i can let that thing aside.... anyway ....... i was thinking to make: -CONTINUE MY FANTASY WORLD WARGAME -starting with jungle factions -starting undead factions -continueing the already made -focusing on siege warfare STARTING A RPG FOCUSED FANTASY LINE - starting something like dungeons or inn inside with townfolks npc interiors and other things like this....
-A MODERN WAR LINES here i will make nowdays soldiers and terrorists and narcos, with tanks, technical vehicles and more....
i did a test for a t55 tank.... tell me what you think about it..... would you buy it? i will not put a high price ... i was thinking around 1 - 1,5 $ this s free for you guys ..... i will recicle it in the KS anyway if this idea starts.....
I did a variant front facing... tell me wich of the 3 is the best
(i will make camouflage variants and color variants.... i dont like 3d models but i tryed doing one.... free for you guys it needs to be resized before going to print.... i did not a test so i dont know if the result is good... anyway ... I HATE 3D MODELS...I MEAN I HATE TO BUILD PLASTIC MODELS SO YOU CAN IMAGINE ME IN RAGE WHEN THE GLUE IS NOT STICKING......)
-STARTING WW2 HISTORICAL SERIE (if GIORGIO reads i m enought confident about my knownlodges of ww2 period and i have a lot of book for this) Here i want to start from 1939 and go on till the end of the war... i will make a starting set with german infantry and polish infantry plus panzer II and polish AT guns.... then i will start making everything and go till the end of ww2....
-STARTING A SCIFI SERIE here i dont know what to do ... completely.... i will start what you guys suggest.... i m not a big fan of sci fi anyway.... i dont know why.... but ... well... anyway....
-STARTING DYSTOPIC POSTAPOCALIPTIC LINE here i will need your help again becouse i dont have a lot of idea
in the end GUYS I NEED YOUR SUGGESTIONS
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Post by wyvern on May 13, 2019 6:55:19 GMT -9
Unfortunately, you'll likely end up with as many suggestions as there are people wishing to comment here! Personally, I'm in favour of completed projects, so I'd incline towards preparing more items from your fantasy world, given the numerous suggestions for semi-historical and fantasy forces, creatures and settings you've already outlined in a number of places, beyond what the two KS's have covered so far. However, you need to be guided by what you want to do more, and - if your intention is to run another KS shortly - also what you think people will pledge money towards. Again personally, I have little interest in science-fiction or post-apocalyptic minis, and my preference for vehicles is more towards the 3D, though modern tanks really aren't of great interest to me either. World War Two is a VAST topic to try to cover. This is clearly a good time to start, as approaching the 80th anniversary of its commencement later this year. However, it would need a MAJOR commitment on your part to the probable exclusion of all else for possibly years to attempt the kind of coverage you seem to be talking of - by the sound, at least representative human and vehicle forces for all the combatants. It would be great to see this done, but I really wonder if it's feasible? For your fantasy RPG line, would these be things to fit to your own Phantasya world, or something more generic? There is quite a selection of more general fantasy minis and scenery already available, whereas your own world seems to have more interesting (to me at least!) less-generic options. Ultimately though, while we can make suggestions, and possibly debate endlessly over the merits of this or that type of mini/vehicle/setting, the choice has to be based on what appeals to YOU, because you're the one who'll have to create whatever it is (and maybe keep creating it, possibly for years)
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Post by squirmydad on May 13, 2019 7:28:42 GMT -9
Wyvern said most of what I was thinking very well. Create what appeals to you because if there is no passion behind the creation then it just becomes a job, and it sounds like you already have a job that doesn't satisfy you. Don't let your art become that job. If you don't like 3d models then don't do 3d models. The first (profile view) T55 would work on a gaming table if you wanted to make vehicles. People/customers (they can be different things) will request all sorts of things and it can be wildly distracting if you let yourself be dragged in thirty different directions. Just politely tell people/customers, "I'm continuing to develop my own fantasy world, that will be my artistic focus for quite a while as I explore this world that I'm creating. You are welcome to join me in exploring this new world as it unfolds before us."
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Post by Vermin King on May 13, 2019 9:13:38 GMT -9
I also agree with the above. You have to follow your heart. There will be as many folks disappointed in your choices as folks who whole-heartedly support them. If you do what you want to do, you don't have to worry as much about opinions. Unless you are mostly interested in the cash. In that case you have to be in tune with those opinions. I really like those tanks. Yes, I like post-apocalyptic and sci fi, but you have a lot to give to Fantasy still. Work on those other projects as a diversion occasionally, or switch paths to one of those if you have 'burn out', but you really need to do what you want to do. My list of incomplete projects must drive wyvern crazy...
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Post by pavaro on May 13, 2019 9:18:27 GMT -9
Genius models of tanks. Bravo! I love 2D vehicles and I design the 2D scene myself, because they give me more freedom of the imagination. 2D rules! Thanks for the nice Polish accent in your plans. It is a pity that can not cast a few votes. All topics are interesting. Fantasy in your issue is intriguing, although I do not hide that I am waiting for the undead. As for the Second World War, it will be a set with my first World War.
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Post by Antohammer on May 14, 2019 0:15:41 GMT -9
THANKYOU GUYS !!! THANKYOU TO EVERYONE .... i m more confident now wyvern squirmydad Vermin Kingafter reading your comments i think i will do what i like most so this means I will continue my fantasy world in the next ks!!! then I wil give a try to the ww2 idea after this one becouse it s a thing i cannot stop thinking ......... i m very happy that pavaro likes the 2d tank .... i will make a lot for the ww2 and... thankyo to the others that voted for sci fi.... so far the best part of making paper miniatures is to be able to part of this forum !!! (i m a poor loner in realife).... anyway i think i will leave this thread open as a list of ideas so if you have suggestions and requests post them wait for a concept of the next ks very soon... after i complete Rhannon night watch... the black as a color i driving me crazy...
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Post by Parduz on May 14, 2019 4:24:17 GMT -9
I agree with what the others guys said. BUT, despite being mostly silent here, i wanted to comment because you mentioned "nowaday armies". I think that is a part of board/wargaming that have almost no cover, and i'll buy anything that will let me play skirmish games in the "tones" of Black Hawk Down, some Tom Clancy book/movie, etc. Then, my personal view of the paper miniatures production (a view to which i'm mostly the only to agree ) is the same from many years, and it is that, no matter the theme, i'd like them like toy soldiers boxes. Just to explain myself, if i were a miniature producer i'd go this way: - Box_A_1 is a set of figures that could make a "basic army of _A_"
- Box_B_1 is the same (equivalent) but for _B_ (and _B_ could be used as an opponent or as an Ally of _A_)
- Box_A_2 and Box_B_2 are an expansion set of heroes (commanders, stars) for the _A_ and _B_ armies
- a bonus set of PNGs for the weapons/armors/gear/items used in the miniatures, perhaps some portraits too, so one could build game cards/tokens/whatever for the games he will play with the minis without having to change style by grabbing images on the web.
Once released this all, I could choose to produce _C_/_D_ boxes or go for some specialized _A_/_B_ figures. Now, _A_ and _B_ could be Elfs and Dwarfs, Citizens and Zombies, Terrans and Aliens, SWAT and Terrorists, whatever: i will still be sure that each "production cycle" will give to my customers a way to play a game with only my figures. Sure, this is more a wargaming view than a RPG one, but this will make both "views" possible. This is not a rant, just my 3 or 4 cents
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Post by Vermin King on May 14, 2019 5:04:52 GMT -9
That echoes my thoughts on 'sets'. I think most players find sets most useful. Three or more figures and/or models that can be used together as a group.
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Post by wyvern on May 14, 2019 6:51:22 GMT -9
Parduz 's comments clarified and expanded what I'd meant by "completed projects" earlier. It is endlessly frustrating NOT to have both armies for any given battle using minis by the same artist and/or in the same style. In fantasy you can sidestep this to an extent by using a mix-and-match approach to ALL your forces, but for historical battle especially, that often just looks wrong. My list of incomplete projects must drive wyvern crazy... Nah - I have incomplete projects here going back decades; I just don't tell anyone about them And for Antohammer , great to know we'll have more of your excellent fantasy minis to look forward to soon!
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Post by Antohammer on May 14, 2019 10:24:05 GMT -9
WOOO GUYS thankyou for all the interest in my thread i wanted to show you the first polish soldier for the ww2 range i completely agree Parduz .... infact in the previous kickstarter that was originally the basic idea... but then along the road.... this time i will stay on targhet ... infact i m now writing/drawing the table of the fantasy ks ..... wyvern thankyou bro!!!! i was thinking... if the next ks is based on siege warfare is this interesting for you? (probably i will do it anyway... but you know... i hope you have good suggestions)
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Post by Antohammer on May 14, 2019 12:00:32 GMT -9
AND HERE S THE FIRST CONCEPT FOR THE BASE RELASE it will be composed by 4 riflemen and 4 specialist soldiers and 1 vehicle for both side i plan the usual 5€ pledge and founding at 30€ then goals every 20€ or so.... i feel a lot of hype i completed a concept for the fantasy too.... and this s the sorcerer in all his glory
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Post by ignatious on May 14, 2019 12:19:51 GMT -9
This is not a rant, just my 3 or 4 cents In my time here (at the forum) it has been my experience that your cents(sense) hold their "worth".
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Post by Antohammer on May 15, 2019 5:57:55 GMT -9
a little update about the night watch for Rhannon i completed front and rear of 8 of 10 and color of 5 of 10 .... i ve almost completed them !!!! 1-2 days to the end !!!!! here instead an update for Parduz what do you think about theese talibans ?? i m even working on modular middle east buildings and tecnical vehicles with guns!!!!!! .... stay tuned !!!!!! and here we have the t55 printed in 15mm scale ... damn i m now thinking to make a coldwar/teamyankee serie.... dammit i have too much things to draw and not enought time.... anyway .... suggestions? ideas ? complains? ? requests??? let me know
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Post by Rhannon on May 15, 2019 8:33:56 GMT -9
Too much. Too many things.
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Post by mesper on May 16, 2019 14:02:51 GMT -9
... i dont like 3d models but i tryed doing one...
Well, same here (at least in case of cardboard/papercraft figurines and models, perhaps except scenery and some accessories) -STARTING WW2 HISTORICAL SERIE
Here i want to start from 1939 and go on till the end of the war... i will make a starting set with german infantry and polish infantry plus panzer II and polish AT guns.... then i will start making everything and go till the end of ww2...
Definitely a very ambitious plan - good luck and fingers crossed!
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Post by Antohammer on May 17, 2019 8:26:52 GMT -9
Rhannon i completed the night watch take a look at them mesper ahahahah i m happy not being the only one that dont like 3d models i hope i can make that historical serie a big hit!!! here s the first panzer II flat model
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Post by Antohammer on May 17, 2019 10:39:03 GMT -9
hi guys .... i was thinking about the fantasy kickstarter..... now that is not the first ks anymore... so i already made other factions.... so .... i was thinking was better to make a kickstarter based on a single faction from now on? i mean i can make it this way: 1 hero/commander 5 spearmen/swordmen 5 archer/javelin 1 small set of terrain that suit the faction and then enlarge the faction in the stretch goals this way there would be no chaotich change of factions or theme.... this way an undead ks will be only about them and a ks of ratman would be on ratman only.... for the ww2 this makes no sense becouse it s the first relase so you need two factions to fight.... but after the 1st ww2 ks i can adopt the same solution for the ww2 line too..... ideas? suggestions? it looks good to me? what do you think?
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Post by wyvern on May 17, 2019 12:24:11 GMT -9
Antohammer : The single faction approach for subsequent sets after the first (whether fantasy or historical) makes sense. You might want to think of adding a couple of unusual/special troop types as well to the initial set for the fantasy KS, really just to add a bit of extra "spice", something to help catch people's attention. For the undead, maybe a larger monster skeleton, or a flock of skeleton bats, for example. For the WW2 sets, the uniform and equipment changes for all sides are time- and theatre-dependent, and don't all happen at the same time even in the same geographical area. While that provides a baseline of sorts for what troops will be needed, where and when, the same problem - of needing two factions to fight - will keep recurring. For instance, the troops in the Western Desert in 1940-41 wouldn't be wearing the same uniforms as those in Western and Southeastern Europe during that same time period. So you'd need to be thinking of, for example, both the Italian and British Commonwealth forces in desert uniforms as a starter set for 1940-41, but could then add the German troops from 1941 separately. Similarly, for the Eastern Front, all sides will need different winter and summer force sets (whose appearance, and in some cases troop types, will also change with time), except for the Finnish troops during the 1939-40 Winter War, as that was fought only during the winter (the clue's in the name!). And this of course doesn't even begin to cover places such as the combats in the Pacific and Southeastern Asia. As I said previously, the WW2 project is a huge undertaking
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Post by Antohammer on May 17, 2019 12:42:19 GMT -9
wyvern you are always my favourite that s a very good suggestion!!!! So for the fantasy Ks maybe i Will try this new way... for the ww2 instead i will go for small area/period Groups instead!!! Wait me for some concept!!!
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Post by Antohammer on May 19, 2019 3:33:03 GMT -9
hi guys !!!!! i made a scale test!!! this is a good result to me!!! what do you think? ? i suppose that i can make the paper miniatures in various scale from now on!!! expecially for the ww2 gamers this should be usefull.... I mean this way you can decide to play bigger battles reducing the scale. and this is not a problem with my ruleset.... you simply need a smaller square grid.... i was thinkin that 28mm has a 12cm square so a 15mm for example should use a 6cm square and everything should be perfect!!!
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Post by cowboyleland on May 19, 2019 6:49:58 GMT -9
This has always been an advantage of paper figures. Most recently I made 15mm versions of my pathfinder players so I could use my 28mm lead (atomic number 82) orcs rather than make a dozen 30mm paper ogres.
I have also shrunk a party and some pirates to 15mm so I could make a 3 ship battle fit on my gaming table. Best to have tweezers handy if you are down to 15mm and you are moving figures individually.
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Post by Antohammer on May 19, 2019 9:27:10 GMT -9
cowboyleland nice idea the naval battle in 15mm !!!!! a very nice one.... i write it in the todolist !!!!
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Post by wyvern on May 20, 2019 9:34:07 GMT -9
I routinely downscale all 28mm-32mm scale minis and models to approximately 22mm scale simply by printing them onto A5 sized paper/card instead of A4. The size reduction makes it easier (for me at least) to make and store the finished items, without having to resort to fold-flat options - which I find problematic because once folded flat, neatly filed and stored, I can never remember what I have and where they are...
As long as the original 28mm-32mm items are of high quality (as virtually all such items are, particularly those prepared by the creators who frequent this Forum), there shouldn't be much problem in any scale reduction subsequently. Of course, if you shift down to very small scales, like 6mm, there may be an increasing loss of clarity about the finished products, but I've not found much difficulty scaling down to 10mm scale at times so far, at least.
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Post by Antohammer on May 20, 2019 9:53:19 GMT -9
wyvern so you are a 1/72 guy!!!! i had no idea!!! i have tons of plastic miniatures in that scale.... tons of airfix and italeri !!!
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Post by wyvern on May 21, 2019 7:32:26 GMT -9
And here also, along with lots of Caesar, Revell, Strelets, Preiser, Linear-B, Dark Alliance and the old ESCI ranges (and those are just what I can see from where I'm sitting typing this). Some of them are even painted. But sadly not that many, compared to the rest...
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Post by Antohammer on May 21, 2019 8:28:02 GMT -9
wyvern i have a box of shame full of 1/72 guys neve painted... so i can understand
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Post by Antohammer on May 25, 2019 2:56:54 GMT -9
anyway... guys i need your suggetion i m still alive after a long week of work.... i wanted to draw a lot of things but in the end i draw almost nothing.... i continued the ww2 serie but the ks is not ready yet.... anyway.... I was thinking about the future fantasy ks... .... no ... the truth is that i was on the gw page and i saw the new slanesh demon.... i mean... he/she/it is a doody... so I was thinking to make my next ks about a demon army.... a slanesh army!!!! an army that the dark lord deserve!!!!! what do you think? Is someone interested??? ....I made a concept for my LUST DEMONS (I cannot call them true slanesh army...) ADULT CONTENT WARNING
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- i wanted her(or he ... who know what under that belt ehe ehehehe:3 ) to have big hands made of something like a super strong skin this way she can use whipe or swords!!!! Legs are made of the same thing and are blades from themselves.... I was thinking go make a contortionist one... and a mage... and a big one half snake with wings horns and tentacles.... :3 what do you think??? do she need more bobb??? i wait suggestions !!!!
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Post by wyvern on May 25, 2019 5:53:48 GMT -9
Wasn't the next fantasy KS going to be undead at one stage?!
Had to hunt up the Slaanesh Daemons (as GW seem to be spelling the name on the UK site, anyway), as I don't really follow GW these days. They're reminiscent of some of the sadly defunct, but often highly inventive, Rackham cast minis from a few years ago in their Confrontation ranges. So creatively intriguing.
It's hard to imagine you could come up with something that wouldn't be of interest, given your always-interesting fresh take on fantasy minis, so yeah, these seem as good as any to go with next, especially if it's where your imagination wants to travel. Be better to not concentrate solely on female body forms though. If you're going down the Ephesian Artemis upper body form route, it's worth noting hers are probably not multiple bobb...
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Post by Antohammer on May 25, 2019 11:01:20 GMT -9
Wasn't the next fantasy KS going to be undead at one stage?! Had to hunt up the Slaanesh Daemons (as GW seem to be spelling the name on the UK site, anyway), as I don't really follow GW these days. They're reminiscent of some of the sadly defunct, but often highly inventive, Rackham cast minis from a few years ago in their Confrontation ranges. So creatively intriguing. It's hard to imagine you could come up with something that wouldn't be of interest, given your always-interesting fresh take on fantasy minis, so yeah, these seem as good as any to go with next, especially if it's where your imagination wants to travel. Be better to not concentrate solely on female body forms though. If you're going down the Ephesian Artemis upper body form route, it's worth noting hers are probably not multiple bobb... AS ALWAYS... THANKYOU WYVERN!!! you know me .... i m like a big butterfly!!!! i cannot focus on something that other ideas pop up in my mind and drive me away.... it s alway like this... anyway .... yes... originally I was working on undead (that s why i was on gw site) but i got distracted... so much distracted that i completed a set of 5 inks for the basic demonettes.... and the one that i showed you before now is colored take a look .... on my patreon page the pdf file for free link: www.patreon.com/posts/27126300those girls are a bit bigger from normal man... they are around 35mm to the eyes (anyway i prefer the rear) :3 -- BIG GUYS STUFF ALERT -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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Post by wyvern on May 26, 2019 10:08:47 GMT -9
The coloured mini looks good; I especially like the shading away of the darker colours up the limbs. However, she seems more like an ice demon to me; reds and purples speak more of lust. Blue - which looks good here certainly - is a colder tone.
The five line drawing poses are interesting, though it's hard to judge without knowing what weapons or items they may be holding/using in the final stage. Poses 1 and 5 are perhaps a bit too similar is all I'd say for now.
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